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jlf1961 -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 12:09:54 PM)

Getting back to Alex.

I have seem stories on his site detailing UN troops operating within the US. He even provides pictures, operation names, all kinds of stuff.

Problem is that the pictures are not of UN troops, are not even taken in the US.

The operations are real, but did not take place in the time frame he claims, his dates are wrong by as much as ten years.

His FEMA detention camp aerial pictures are of facilities in North Korea, a state prison camp, and a great outside shot of an Amtrak facility with turnstiles that are used to help with payroll.

What I find as funny are the "reporters" that provided the stories, google them and you find a few thousand results, none are reporters, or even connected to an agency that would have access to the information.

When you consider the various scandals that have come to light, wiki leaks, the NSA data mining, the fact a US General sent pics of his penis to women, it boggles the mind that no one linked to these conspiracies has ever come forth with actual proof.

Now I ask you, how can a man with no connections come up with all these conspiracies? Simple, take statements from news stories out of context, tweak them a little bit and post them on the web.



pahunkboy -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 12:24:10 PM)

My next door neighbor is a guard at the federal penn- from our talks over the years- rex 84 is actual. We live with in walking distance of FEMA camp. Some year ago- my job was related- our counties disaster plan- which had to be approved be PEMA, which is over seen by FEMA. Even tho it was my job to update and revise the official disaster plan at the county level- the things I could not know -spoke more to the issue then the items I was allowed to know about. For example- the underground tunnels. The area is a satellite location should something happen to Harrisburg.


You can look up continuity of govt- COG. There are 6 super camps- the capacity tho is not as much as people might think- they can only hold around 3-6 million. The point that NDAA, and the issue with drone killings also speaks to that.



DomKen -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 12:29:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rule

Thus, jlf1961, the onus is on you to demonstrate that there always is someone among the hundreds of millions of oathbound people who talks.

We meanwhile have established that DomKen, at least, does not talk.

If I thought anything I knew that was classified was part of something that did harm to anyone or was a small part of some larger conspiracy I would talk but what I did that is still classified is actually incredibly minor and it strikes me as ridiculous it is still classified, as I said in the first post on the matter. Now would you please stop trying to put words in my mouth?



crazyml -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 12:29:10 PM)

I think you may be talking about a "secret" installation a little like this one....

I guess that you were using the term "Top Secret" casually, and that your reference to the need for a "much higher clearance" as in the same vein.

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Real0ne -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 12:42:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: crazyml


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

You know, like Area 51. You had to have a top secret clearance to work the gate house and perimeter patrol, then those of us who actually were cleared to patrol inside checking locks, safes and stuff had a much higher clearance.


Hmm. I'm not saying that I doubt the veracity of your claim, but are you sure that you're not prohibited from saying that you have, or had, that kind of clearance?



It is a laughing stock installation. The Installation is labeled NASA, yet it has DOD warnings on the fence. NASA discontinued using the facility in 1973. The site is a constant source of news stories on local news stations.

Security had to have clearance, there were no non disclosure agreements, in fact, the techs that worked in the facility routinely did interviews with various magazines and news media.

What was so secret was the monitoring equipment, and that was behind locked doors that required a magnetic key card to enter. Security personnel were not allowed in there. There were a couple of large safes that we had to make sure were closed when no one was in the rooms.

Most of what went on there was to monitor transmissions from foreign satellite transmissions, that much was in a Popular Science article in the nineties.

After the fall of the soviet union, the facility staff was downsized, and some of the equipment was removed. Right now, it is part of the network tracking old and obsolete satellites, with a small staff of civilian air force contractors.






what about the rest of what went on there?


so jeff why you building a bunker and at the same time snarking conspiracies?



you do know northwards was laid on kennedys desk by lemizer in volved americans too.

that was just a sample of 14 pages



pahunkboy -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 12:43:34 PM)

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-spying-flap-extends-to-contents-of-u.s-phone-calls/ for those who may have missed it- here is the NSA bugging thing



Aswad -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 2:35:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

I think you may be talking about a "secret" installation a little like this one....


Got to love well marked secret facilities.

IWYW,
— Aswad.



jlf1961 -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 2:44:34 PM)

When in private security I worked different government facilities, Savanah River Nuclear facility required the signing of Non Disclosure documents, the Facility in NC did not.

The Newport News Shipbuilding subsidiary required non disclosure documents.

Most of the loads I hauled when I drove a truck required non disclosure documents when they were picked up. They were government loads and I could care less, all I knew was that the ones that required the non disclosure agreements were light as hell.

Some places I had to unhook from the trailer, let an employee hook to the trailer, take it to where ever, then bring it back.

There are some places with ultra tight security that looks to be nothing more than a vacant building with one or two cars in the parking lot.

Then there are places where a big deal is made about security, the government denies anything is going on, and you can park a car on the perimeter fence and take all the pictures you want of experimental aircraft taking off, all kinds of activity. The government extended the security zone around area 51 so you cannot directly see the base now. But strangely did not include a mountain you can climb, put a telescope up and watch the various aircraft taking off.

Then there is HARP. Tight ground security, but you can fly your private plane over the facility as long as you do not fly directly over the antenna array.

My point is that the Government wants some "secret" facilities known, and then there are areas of federally owned land (the Federal Government is the largest land owner in Nevada) that are remote and have no fly zones over them.

You can download images of Area 51 from google earth, but pics of other federal properties are unavailable.



jlf1961 -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 2:48:55 PM)

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Dick Cheney defends NSA surveillance programs
Former Vice President Dick Cheney, who played a key role in spearheading the government's expansion of surveillance authority in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, forcefully defended the legality and necessity of that surveillance on "Fox News Sunday," while slamming the Obama administration on a host of other issues.

The two programs leaked earlier in June, which allow the government to gather a broad swath of data on Americans' telephone activity and foreigners' Internet activity, may have stopped the 9/11 perpetrators in their tracks if they were in place before the attack, Cheney said.


And a word from Dick Cheney


And none of the conspiracy sites seem to have jumped on this.



Rule -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 4:08:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: Rule
We meanwhile have established that DomKen, at least, does not talk.

would you please stop trying to put words in my mouth?

Me putting words in your mouth?

Considering that my whole point is that there are no words coming out of your mouth, I admit that the way your mind functions, fascinates me.



pahunkboy -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 4:10:08 PM)

Why do you defend the status quo so boldly?

Do you not understand we are being robbed? The banks own it all.

Alex bothers you because more people are tuning into him.


TARP, QE1,QE2, has GAVE trillions of YOUR money to the banksters.

How can you not see you are robbed?



DomKen -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 4:16:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: Rule
We meanwhile have established that DomKen, at least, does not talk.

would you please stop trying to put words in my mouth?

Me putting words in your mouth?

Considering that my whole point is that there are no words coming out of your mouth, I admit that the way your mind functions, fascinates me.

A deceptive edit. Is that really where you want to go?



Rule -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 4:57:02 PM)

This isn't about you. Please stop making yourself the center of the universe.



Politesub53 -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 4:57:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rule

This isn't about you. Please stop making yoiurself the center of the universe.



Irony at its finest.



jlf1961 -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 5:58:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Why do you defend the status quo so boldly?

Simple, because theories you are preaching are the biggest bunch of pulp fiction created in the last 100 years.

I prefer to confront things that are provable, without a bunch rewritting news stories or just making shit up. As for defending the status quo, me and others like me are actually confronting the powers that be on the bullshit they are pulling and overtly declining to do anything about the problems that are created by their neglect, like the plight of disabled veterans, or veterans dealing with mental health issues that the VA seems to be willing to over look or throw drugs at it.

Of course feel free to continue to chase non existent programs.
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
Do you not understand we are being robbed? The banks own it all.

First, most of the TARP funds have been repaid, with interest, some actually were repaid early.

Second, if you think that the economy sucks now, it would have been worse if so many large banks went bust, we would have had an economic collapse that would have made the Depression look like an economic hiccup.
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
Alex bothers you because more people are tuning into him.

Alex bothers me because he is lieing asshole hypocrite, and that is me being nice. Everything he has posted on his webpage or broadcast on his radio show has been debunked by reporters, and private citizens. He makes his money feeding the paranoid minority in this country and could care less how many people his bullshit gets killed.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
TARP, QE1,QE2, has GAVE trillions of YOUR money to the banksters.

Actually, QE1 the US government bought up securities and loans, and has since liquidated those holdings at a profit.
OE2 was the printing of more money by the federal reserve, which I dont understand, more currency in circulation, the lower the value of that currency, but then I am not an economist.
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
How can you not see you are robbed?

Simple, I am not being robbed, my investments have gained value continuously since 2002, instead of financing the properties I own, I was in the position to buy outright, except for my house, but there I made such a large downpayment that my mortgage payments are so low that I routinely make a double payment each month.

The precious metals I own have actually lost value over the past couple of days, but then I invested in gold, not silver.

Finally, thanks to the wonderful tax breaks, some recent upgrades to my home and hunting cabin had a net cost of zero and increased the property value by about 15%, at least according to the tax accessory.

FYI, Alex is claiming that the tornado that hit Moore Oklahoma was created by a weather weapon the US Government had developed.




pahunkboy -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 6:02:39 PM)

You absolutely do not get it.


If you dont understand monetary policy/history- then I am afraid I cant help you.



Real0ne -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 6:14:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Alex bothers me because he is lieing asshole hypocrite, and that is me being nice.

Ok so you are pissed that he did not run for president?

Everything he has posted on his webpage or broadcast on his radio show has been debunked by reporters,

really? citations please, and dont forget its not about alex this comes from his guests.


FYI, Alex is claiming that the tornado that hit Moore Oklahoma was created by a weather weapon the US Government had developed.




funny its the same thing other governments are bitching about. its easy to change weather



Real0ne -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 6:23:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

I think you may be talking about a "secret" installation a little like this one....

I guess that you were using the term "Top Secret" casually, and that your reference to the need for a "much higher clearance" as in the same vein.

[image]local://upfiles/453617/BF9879FA95664413AD35D2445230F4B1.jpg[/image]


probably not referring to brintain either



stef -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 9:26:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

You absolutely do not get it.


If you dont understand monetary policy/history- then I am afraid I cant help you.

This is, quite possibly, the most amusing thing I've read here this year.

Bravo Hunks.



pahunkboy -> RE: ALex strikes again (6/16/2013 9:27:37 PM)

Thank you.



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