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Real0ne -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 2:41:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Since I dont believe in "God" I wouldnt hazard a guess how he/she is doing it... Im sure you must know since you are all about god and religion and conscience.



seems we are talking about your belief in God since you seem to believe it Gods fault for more than 50% of something yet have nothing to bring to the table to that effect.





tazzygirl -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 2:47:57 PM)

Oh no, not at all. You are the one who claimed "life" began at fertilization. My point was to argue that if your stance is true, then "God" him/herself is responsible for half the abortions that occur each year. As a result, shouldnt "God" be on trial for all these murders?

And, when are we putting football players on trial as well?



Real0ne -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 2:51:19 PM)


and my point is that you have shown nothing what so ever that God is or incurred any liability what so ever



tazzygirl -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 2:54:25 PM)

Then explain why it happens and how its different. If life begins at fertilization, surely "God" intends for their to be a pregnancy and implantation, as that is the only way the process can proceed. If that process is interrupted, then, by your definition, an "abortion" has occurred.



Real0ne -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 3:55:44 PM)

that is one possibility yes



tazzygirl -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 3:56:57 PM)

And the other possibility?



Real0ne -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 4:02:50 PM)

you are the one who claims its Gods fault for 50% of all abortions. I cant even conceptualize how you could blame God and again you have put up nothing to show its God. Pretty imaginative to agrue a point you havent made yet lol



tazzygirl -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 4:07:50 PM)

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you are the one who claims its Gods fault for 50% of all abortions


Oh no no no.... you need to read again what I posted. I stated half of all pregnancies never get implanted. That is part of the process you insisted was interrupted by others in abortions. I am blaming "God" for those interruptions.

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the "living" body however resides in the moral status and exists the moment fertilization occurs and will develop into a wo/man provided conditions not interrupted.


Your words. If "God" interrupts the process, he/she should be held accountable.



Real0ne -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 4:44:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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you are the one who claims its Gods fault for 50% of all abortions


Oh no no no.... you need to read again what I posted. I stated half of all pregnancies never get implanted. That is part of the process you insisted was interrupted by others in abortions. I am blaming "God" for those interruptions.

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the "living" body however resides in the moral status and exists the moment fertilization occurs and will develop into a wo/man provided conditions not interrupted.


Your words. If "God" interrupts the process, he/she should be held accountable.



so your bitch is that women are defective and its Gods fault?



tazzygirl -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 4:48:46 PM)

Wait... how are women defective? If "God" starts life at fertilization... and "God" made man in his image.... then surely "God" would know which woman is able to carry and which one isnt. Why would "God" put a life in a woman who he knows cannot carry that life?



Real0ne -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 5:10:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Wait... how are women defective? If "God" starts life at fertilization... and "God" made man in his image.... then surely "God" would know which woman is able to carry and which one isnt. Why would "God" put a life in a woman who he knows cannot carry that life?



dayum I said all that huh?

I only remember saying that a blob so to speak can only develop into an adult once it is fertilized. Once God made the first model why would have give a shit about a few defective models later or even track them for that matter? Life is a continuing process, God only had to have his hands in it once. which image are you talking baout again?



tazzygirl -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 5:19:26 PM)

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dayum I said all that huh?

I only remember saying that a blob so to speak can only develop into an adult once it is fertilized.


Damn, its amazing you dont realize what it is you say.

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Once God made the first model why would have give a shit about a few defective models later or even track them for that matter? Life is a continuing process, God only had to have his hands in it once. which image are you talking baout again?


Oh no, surely "God" would not have made such a faulty incubator... or a faulty body to host the precious lives he deems a woman should carry.

You will have to do much better than that.

If "God" intended for life to begin at fertilization, then all those pregnancies that are never implanted are aborted... at "Gods" will... since he all knowing n all that.



Real0ne -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 6:05:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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dayum I said all that huh?

I only remember saying that a blob so to speak can only develop into an adult once it is fertilized.


Damn, its amazing you dont realize what it is you say.

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Once God made the first model why would have give a shit about a few defective models later or even track them for that matter? Life is a continuing process, God only had to have his hands in it once. which image are you talking baout again?


Oh no, surely "God" would not have made such a faulty incubator... or a faulty body to host the precious lives he deems a woman should carry.

You will have to do much better than that.

If "God" intended for life to begin at fertilization, then all those pregnancies that are never implanted are aborted... at "Gods" will... since he all knowing n all that.



nah

looks to me like you wanna use God to be your scapegoat for faulty women. Seems to me the proper place to put the blame are on the faulty incubators for failing to implant.




tazzygirl -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 6:25:31 PM)

What about all the people who played football with pig skin?

How many clothes do you own that is made up of two different threads?

How many people work on the "sabbath"?

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the state machine does not recognize anything as a person till its ass physically hits the table, however people of God and conscience do.


You brought "God" into this discussion.

Between one-third and one-half of all fertilized eggs never fully implant. A pregnancy is considered to be established only after implantation is complete.

Source: American College of Obstetricans and Gynecologists.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/tgr/08/2/gr080207.html

Now, the RFL has no problem scooping up Guttmacher for other opinions and stats, so its fair to use this bit of information as well.

Since "God" ia all knowing, all power, all seeing, why didnt he foresee the loss of life in those women and simply pass by the fertilization of those eggs?



Real0ne -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 7:52:34 PM)

the more appropriate question is why would God allow such women to live in the first place? Their parents should be punished too for not taking their defective asses back to walmart!

why do you continue to blame defective women onto God?

Do you think God is like evil or something for allowing defective women of today to live? After all the abuse women put those baby makers through its amazing they dont come out as giant turds. Are you trying to say that it was always this way from the beginning? I think not.



tazzygirl -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 8:33:34 PM)

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the more appropriate question is why would God allow such women to live in the first place? Their parents should be punished too for not taking their defective asses back to walmart!


I agree! Why indeed since their only purpose in life, according to the religious nut cases, is to breed.

So this is something else we can chalk up to a fuck up on "Gods" part.

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why do you continue to blame defective women onto God?


Why thats simple....

"God" created them.

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Do you think God is like evil or something for allowing defective women of today to live? After all the abuse women put those baby makers through its amazing they dont come out as giant turds. Are you trying to say that it was always this way from the beginning? I think not.


Of course it has been.... even the bible speaks of "barren" women. But, surely, that cant be if all women are good for is making babies. And, since "God" created them, he surely didnt put something defective on this planet that he didnt want here.

Ball's back in your court.



Real0ne -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 8:45:35 PM)

well it seems the original model was working just fine, and only after allowing it into your care did it degenerate to what it is today, or do you expect God to slap you around for fucking up his baby makers or allowing them to fuck themselves up?



tazzygirl -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 8:50:13 PM)

What proof do you have a woman damaged the design?



Real0ne -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 8:55:48 PM)

what proof do you have God has any liability for anything beyond the original model. Women have custody of the baby makers thats how I know. Its built right in. and even with that they try to blame God.



tazzygirl -> RE: 20 weeks abortion bill passes the HOR (6/23/2013 9:01:17 PM)

1/3 to 1/2 of all fertilizations end that way... pretty good odds that its a design flaw and not user error.



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