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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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ORIGINAL: FrostedFlake

Why was what Snowden revealed a secret?

Why would Snowden believe he would get better treatment than Manning? (to cite the most obvious example)

And, making the assumption a priori that our enemy is not us, why is Department of Homeland Security buying up all the bullets and hundreds of sets of high-tech armored riot suits?

Realistically, what organization other than our government is actually in a position to actually do Us any actual harm? Isn't the Bill of Rights the means by which We prevent our government doing Us that harm? Does it not follow directly the primary mission of every American is to pass to the future the same freedoms passed to us by those who controlled government before?

With our government supporting us there is nothing in the World that can challenge us. But with our government looking after itself instead, there is nothing in the World that can challenge it, except us. And of course, that resembles a game of Whack-a-Mole. Isn't that what we are looking at?

I dont know why the DHS is buying ammo unless it is for:

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JLF :

1 Coast Guard
2 United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
3 United States Secret Service (USSS)
4 United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP)

three of those agencies have tactical response teams.
much of the equipment conspiracy theorists are claiming as being bought by the DHS is actually just part of bigger appropriations that include other law enforcement agencies.

In other words, research discovers a lot of neat things, including who is actually getting what regardless of what nut jobs may want the public to believe.

People should be worried about the fact that mixed breeds such as myself and full blood native americans are quietly increasing our ammo supplies and weapons, waiting for the day that Crazy Horse rises from the grave and calls on us to rise up against all the non American descended peoples in our land.


Now, normally I would not follow a coherent zombie, but dude, its Crazy Horse. We would follow Geronimo but some ancestor of the last President Bush stole his head for the skull and bones society, which will impair his abilities to see, hear and formulate battle plans.

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

Snowden is losing credibility by fleeing to other countries, but at the same time, to give him the benefit of the doubt....

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

If the US Government, military and spy agencies have done nothing wrong, they have nothing to fear, do they? That's what governments always say to us, so I'm sure they'd be perfectly accepting of our saying the same shit *cough* thing right back at them.

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we petition the obama administration to:
Pardon Edward Snowden

Edward Snowden is a national hero and should be immediately issued a a full, free, and absolute pardon for any crimes he has committed or may have committed related to blowing the whistle on secret NSA surveillance programs.

Created: Jun 09, 2013

Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties, Government Reform, Human Rights

Signatures needed by July 09, 2013 to reach goal of 100,000
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So, now he's in limbo, and nobody seems to know where he is at the moment. He somehow missed his flight to Cuba. If he's being detained by the Russians, they don't seem to be saying it one way or the other. But they'll probably figure some way to try to work this to their advantage.

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ORIGINAL: FrostedFlake

It will be interesting to see what, if anything, the President has to say about this.

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So. Everyone already knew about this. Right?

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ORIGINAL: tj444

I cant help thinking of all the other better uses of that money which could help poor, unemployed, homeless, disabled Americans.. excuse me for having such ridiculous thoughts..

I just love it when you get up on your soap box....your nipples get all hard and I can see up your dress

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Seems he missed the flight, though many reporters were stuck on that flight thinking he was on it... lol

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We're talking about a highly skilled intelligence analyst, here.

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Federal Law Enforcement Agencies Buy Ammunition

You may recently have seen some in the Internet rumor mill feverishly repeating the obvious truth above, in an effort to stir up fear about recent acquisitions of ammunition by the Department of Homeland Security and a number of smaller agencies. The mildest writers have questioned why seemingly mundane agencies would need ammunition at all; more incendiary authors suggest that these government agencies are preparing for a war with the American people.

Much of the concern stems from a lack of understanding of the law enforcement functions carried about by officers in small federal agencies. These agents have the power to make arrests and execute warrants, just like their better-known counterparts at agencies like the FBI.

For instance, the Social Security Administration solicited offers for 174,000 rounds of pistol ammunition. But the agency has 295 special agents who combat Social Security fraud that costs tax payers billions each year, so the order works out to roughly 590 rounds of ammunition per agent for training, mandatory quarterly qualification shooting and duty use. More than a few NRA members would use that much ammunition in a weekend shooting class or plinking session.

Another recent rumor questioned a request for 46,000 rounds of.40-caliber ammo by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. NOAA inadvertently fueled that speculation through a clerical error that suggested the ammunition was destined for the National Weather Service. NOAA later clarified that the ammunition was actually for the little known Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement, which enforces laws against illegal fishing and marine life importation. The ammunition is for 63 personnel, amounting to about 730 rounds per officer.

Source

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ORIGINAL: Aswad
P.S.: Sources here confirm that the surveillance has been used to track down tax evasion, clearly outside the jurisdiction of non-domestic intelligence.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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We're talking about a highly skilled intelligence analyst, here.

Where did he get those skills? He didnt seem to have the education for it, so its something I have been wondering about.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Where did he get those skills? He didnt seem to have the education for it, so its something I have been wondering about.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Hasnt anyone questioned his "rise"?

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Would you believe the fucking NRA?

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Federal Law Enforcement Agencies Buy Ammunition

You may recently have seen some in the Internet rumor mill feverishly repeating the obvious truth above, in an effort to stir up fear about recent acquisitions of ammunition by the Department of Homeland Security and a number of smaller agencies. The mildest writers have questioned why seemingly mundane agencies would need ammunition at all; more incendiary authors suggest that these government agencies are preparing for a war with the American people.

Much of the concern stems from a lack of understanding of the law enforcement functions carried about by officers in small federal agencies. These agents have the power to make arrests and execute warrants, just like their better-known counterparts at agencies like the FBI.

For instance, the Social Security Administration solicited offers for 174,000 rounds of pistol ammunition. But the agency has 295 special agents who combat Social Security fraud that costs tax payers billions each year, so the order works out to roughly 590 rounds of ammunition per agent for training, mandatory quarterly qualification shooting and duty use. More than a few NRA members would use that much ammunition in a weekend shooting class or plinking session.

Another recent rumor questioned a request for 46,000 rounds of.40-caliber ammo by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. NOAA inadvertently fueled that speculation through a clerical error that suggested the ammunition was destined for the National Weather Service. NOAA later clarified that the ammunition was actually for the little known Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement, which enforces laws against illegal fishing and marine life importation. The ammunition is for 63 personnel, amounting to about 730 rounds per officer.

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The NRA debunked these rumors last year.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

tazzy I thought the same thing when first reading his credentials... I was wondering why hire a drop out when they can have and have had the cream of the crop from higher education... It did not make sense to me anyway.

But

If what your link says is true why have not the Obama administration just come out and denounced him as a fraud?...That does not make sense to me either... so still not understanding the situation.

Butch