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meatcleaver -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/16/2006 9:18:16 AM)

At 24 pages this thread is somewhat overweight.




popeye1250 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/16/2006 10:27:28 AM)

Just because you're a Master/Mistress doesn't mean you (don't) have to keep yourself in shape either.
If I didn't ride my bicycle or walk a few miles everyday or workout at the gym and just sat around playing with the computer I'm sure after a period of time I'd turn into a fat slob.
Can you imagine carrying around a bag of cement with you all the time? Try it for 20 minutes! That's what you're putting your heart through!
Also, I want to keep myself attractive for a prospective submissive.
I do have the wide shoulders and narrow hips so I have to watch my weight all the time or I get a "beer belly" That's where the fat accumulates on me.
Also, when you keep yourself in good shape you "feel better", both physically and mentally. I'm told a lot that "you have great legs".
So take a nice long walk. It's not that difficult and you get to meet your neighbors, get some fresh air, and you'll gradually lose weight.
*Just my humble opinion.*




DreamyLadySnow -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/16/2006 11:54:54 AM)

Maybe the people with perfect bodies have their own club, and didn't invite any of use to it, so we're not really aware of its existance?

LS




popeye1250 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/16/2006 12:16:43 PM)

Dreamy, lol, I don't know about that!
I'm far from "perfect"
The point is that if you're 30 pounds or more overweight you (should) be treating that like a *medical emergency!*
You can use all the excuses; "I have a medical condition", "I'm just "big boned", "it's hereditary" "I'm a BBW" etc, etc but if you want to *LIVE* you need to grab that bull by the horns!
That's why the rate of heart attack for women has skyrocketed in the last 20 years!
Can you imaging dying at 45 years of age from a massive coronary that was totally preventable?
I like to eat too but I eat to live not live to eat.
Being overweight is *Dangerous*!




frenchsub -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/21/2006 10:48:24 PM)

This is the first time i've entered the forum, so please, forgive me if i offend anyone.

i've been overweight all my life...my weight doesn't effect my ability to work, play, serve, or love.  i don't understand why man people think that because i'm overweight i have no control of what i eat.  i watch what i eat....no processed foods, i don't overeat, i am extremely active working out at the gym 5 to 7 days a week.  i've been to several doctors trying to find out what is wrong with me and have finally decided that it's just what i am.  i'm a fat girl. 

Most men that i have run across don't have a problem with my weight.  i'm not desperate to find someone due to my weight.  i am in the lifestyle because i feel in my heart this is wear i'm supposed to be.  my need is to serve and to love, not to critisize.

i hope i haven't upset anyone.

thanks for listening.
frenchie




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 2:42:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250
The point is that if you're 30 pounds or more overweight you (should) be treating that like a *medical emergency!*
You can use all the excuses; "I have a medical condition", "I'm just "big boned", "it's hereditary" "I'm a BBW" etc, etc but if you want to *LIVE* you need to grab that bull by the horns!
That's why the rate of heart attack for women has skyrocketed in the last 20 years!
Can you imaging dying at 45 years of age from a massive coronary that was totally preventable?
I like to eat too but I eat to live not live to eat.
Being overweight is *Dangerous*!
What do you tell the thin people who drop dead of massive coronaries, "you just got phucked in the luck department?"  
Don't be melodramatic with the medical emergency thing please. [sm=rolleyes.gif]   M




Wolfie648 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 2:45:34 AM)

"Why does bdsm appear to attract far more than its' fair share of overweight women? "

Because the flowers only grow when the sun is out.

D (owner of j).




ClassAct2006 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 3:20:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DreamyLadySnow

Maybe the people with perfect bodies have their own club, and didn't invite any of use to it, so we're not really aware of its existance?

LS

What a long thread! Illustrates the obesity problems the UK and US have.
Don't worry about it so much. I like reasonably fit dominant men. I don't need anyone perfect but if they kind of match my BMI that will do. Other people couldn't care less what their partner weighs. I always check the weights on web sites amongst other things which is why they're there.




GoddessSasha -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 3:37:39 AM)

Just to stick my five pennyworth in from the UK.

I was a fat woman once. Then I found an online community for BBWs and learned that not only is it ok to be who and what I am but its positively a diversity to be celebrated. I do find myself feeling rather angry when I read messages saying "I go to the gym regularly and like to keep fit" - bully for you if thats what you like doing but my profile says dont bother me if you are a gym freak lol.

I am relatively new to BDSM but from what Ive seen and done so far, the only problem my weight causes is that it offends the sensibilities of body fascists with nothing better to do than to make their own shortcomings disappear by looking down on others. Its just a transfer of the abuse of power that we live with every day in society whether it be based on race, sexual orientation, age, physical abilities etc. Yes before anyone says it I can lose weight. I would say to that I can lose weight and will still be a Goddess, but you my friend will still be rude and unnattractive in your outlook. If you dont like BBWs fine, thats your personal choice, but dont go on about it, dont ram it down my throat and dont assume I am not healthy. I ride my bicycle at least 5-10 miles almost daily just for starters.

Of course the other problem my weight can cause is because Im not an SSBBW I dont get to Queen very often lol. At least I know the pained joyful expression on a subs face when I stand on his balls is going to be for real.

[:D]




SirKenin -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 6:35:19 AM)

Science has proven that obesity significantly increases your risks of heart attacks and fatal diseases.  This is not an opinion.  This is fact.  I have nothing against chubby women, but obese women that like to brag about being "BBW" need to realize they are likely in for very serious health problems if they do not take a proactive stance towards their health.




mistoferin -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 6:39:46 AM)

This is the thread that never ends.....
it just goes on and on my friends....
some people started posting it, not knowing what it was....
and they'll continue posting it forever just because..........




subcheryl -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 6:54:54 AM)

probably because of the way it was worded.  I am a bbw and am very happy with who I am on the inside, and yes for health reasons my Master and I both want me to loose weight which is a never ending battle.  When I came to my Master I knew he preferred a slimmer sub/slave and we agreed to work on my weight.  He sees my struggles with it, but has come to love the person I am on the inside and my weight doesn't seem to be as much of an issue, other than, like I said, the health issues related to the excess weight.  perhaps the reason it seems that the bdsm world is full of bbw's is because some of us have learned to love who we are and not what we look like and are more confident in who we are and have found true happiness in the sub/slave that we are,(or Domme that you are), and this is more attractive to the mature Dom/Master/Domme out there than the eye candy who doesn't know her/his submissive side.




sublizzie -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 6:57:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

This is the thread that never ends.....
it just goes on and on my friends....
some people started posting it, not knowing what it was....
and they'll continue posting it forever just because..........


Ain't that the truth!!!!




agirl -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 8:12:33 AM)

Hello GoddessSasha,

Also from the UK.....

I am 48 and had/still have a long relationship ( close friends, now) with a chap 20 yrs younger who has a PERFECT body, of his own making. He works hard at it and is (by his own admission) rather obsessed with it. I am slim, but I have physical flaws, having had five pregnancies etc........but he adored me and my body and still does. It was all about ME, not my body ........even to a body fascist like him. Even slim people know that it's the person you are that matters.

Far from BBW's being looked down on, bashed or generally being denigrated......they have a HUGE bank of support and the overwhelming  amount of posts are in support of larger females and the positive things about them.

You will rarely see a thread with that amount of positive attitude directed toward being slim and fit.

No-one is a *better* PERSON because they are slim...my own daughter is a large girl and beautiful in every way.

I have been fat, I was the same *me* when I was fat as I was/am when I was/am slim.... but I KNEW I was fat and didn't see it as something to defend or support.

Regards, agirl




MistressLorelei -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 8:55:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Dreamy, lol, I don't know about that!
I'm far from "perfect"
The point is that if you're 30 pounds or more overweight you (should) be treating that like a *medical emergency!*
You can use all the excuses; "I have a medical condition", "I'm just "big boned", "it's hereditary" "I'm a BBW" etc, etc but if you want to *LIVE* you need to grab that bull by the horns!
That's why the rate of heart attack for women has skyrocketed in the last 20 years!
Can you imaging dying at 45 years of age from a massive coronary that was totally preventable?
I like to eat too but I eat to live not live to eat.
Being overweight is *Dangerous*!


When I read posts like this, I can't help but think 'Gee, I hope that person doesn't smoke, drink more alcohol than what has been determined safe/healthy, always wears his seatbelt, and practices effective stress management'.  Being 30 pounds overweight won't kill you as fast as smoking, driving sans seatbelt, or drinking too much.  And stress is more dangerous than all of these things... so why stress about what others weigh? 

I just read the profile of the individual who made the post I have quoted- he's smoking in his photo.  Perhaps he should heed his own hypcritical warning with regards to smoking:

"Can you imaging dying at 45 years of age from a massive coronary that was totally preventable? "




SexyRed -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 10:11:58 AM)

It is raining here so I am bored and I actually read most of this thread. I normally do have a life, but today I chose to read this.

I agree that the OP stated his "oh so innocent" question with the express purpose of inciting a riot. He was very successful. Why? Because on every BDSM site as well as places like Craigslist, there are millions upon millions of threads about FAT WOMEN. It is the only bias that is still politically correct to have.

As many have stated very eloquently, the preferences that we all have are 100% legitimate. We are all entitled to what and desire and go after what we want. What we are NOT allowed to do, but so many do, is to put down others who do not meet your personal standards.

I am constantly disgusted by the amount of bashing that goes on in the name of "honesty" to larger women. I am sorry, but I do not feel that men get this same treatment, at least only from the perspective of having 25 pages of threads dedicated to them.  No offense to larger men as they must have their own issues similar to women, it is just not spoken of as often.

I am also sick of these labels and how they began to be overrused and overstated. BBW? A term coined in the 70's to represent the fashion industry's entre to selling clothes size 14 and up. They had to devise that because more than 60% of all women are that size. Our society is overwhelmingly getting larger; it is not just in BDSM.  I was a plus size model in the 80's and I never heard the term until it was online.

People online have a safety net of saying whatever it is they want to say without fear of reprisal, other than flames. I dare anyone who dislikes larger women or men, or short men or women, or blue haire, no teeth, whatever...to go up to them on the street and ask the same ludicrous questions that one gets online.

I am a BBW by my own definition according to the labels that I must use today online. I was approached the other day by someone online who said they loved my photo, I was hot, blah blah blah and how intelligent I sounded. We started IMing. At some point in the conversation, he said, I need to ask you a question: why would you describe yourself as a BBW when your photo does not indicate that. I said because I am.  He said, no, no!! Your photo looks like you are a size 8/10. I said, no, I am much larger than that. He said, oh, you must have sent a fake photo then if you describe yourself as a BBW. I said, no, the photo is a few months old and you are a moron, so good bye.

He said, "God, I thought I would talk to you and you would be nice since thinner women are all so bitchy.  He said I only wrote you because I thought that because you describe yourself as BBW you would be open to anything"  BTW, this was on a vanilla site.

Now, you just don't hear that kind of thing out on the street.

My point is that this thread and those like it are never going to end, ever, because people have a need to put down others, to try and persuade others to their points, they have an irrational fear of those who are overweight, they feel frustrated that they might become overweight, they are upset that they are not meeting "Barbie", who exists only their dreams.

I was not going to reply but I am so OVER this constant litany of why are there overweight women in the world and the bashing that goes along with it. Yes, I understand that many feel the OP was not bashing, but many do and I am one of them. You must read between the lines. Sometimes the most innocent sounding question is simply stated to provoke; it is called passive/aggressive behavior.

I just know that I have always met my partners through real life situations and not one of them ever asked me the same ludicrous questions that I get asked as a self-defined BBW online. Sadly, the social and the busy nature of life as well as my interest in BDSM, forces me to look online as well, so I have to hold my head high, keep my confidence level and hope that someone intelligent will come along.

One can only hope for some enlightenment of those who participate in the online community and for people to not use their own preferences as a battering ram against those who do not fit their ideals.




ClassAct2006 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 10:43:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Dreamy, lol, I don't know about that!
I'm far from "perfect"
The point is that if you're 30 pounds or more overweight you (should) be treating that like a *medical emergency!*
You can use all the excuses; "I have a medical condition", "I'm just "big boned", "it's hereditary" "I'm a BBW" etc, etc but if you want to *LIVE* you need to grab that bull by the horns!
That's why the rate of heart attack for women has skyrocketed in the last 20 years!
Can you imaging dying at 45 years of age from a massive coronary that was totally preventable?
I like to eat too but I eat to live not live to eat.
Being overweight is *Dangerous*!


When I read posts like this, I can't help but think 'Gee, I hope that person doesn't smoke, drink more alcohol than what has been determined safe/healthy, always wears his seatbelt, and practices effective stress management'.  Being 30 pounds overweight won't kill you as fast as smoking, driving sans seatbelt, or drinking too much.  And stress is more dangerous than all of these things... so why stress about what others weigh? 

I just read the profile of the individual who made the post I have quoted- he's smoking in his photo.  Perhaps he should heed his own hypcritical warning with regards to smoking:

"Can you imaging dying at 45 years of age from a massive coronary that was totally preventable? "

Yes, but some of us avoid the other things too - I don't drink or smoke. I try to stay slim without being obssessive about it and I like that being controlled along with a lot of other things, as part of my desire for contro.

 Anyway it's up to people to choose the partners they want. I have never been attracted to an obese man. That's not a problem as there are plenty of dominant men in the UK who are a healthy weight which doesn't jeopardise their long term health. I would never suggest to any man or woman that losing weight is at all easy. It's a very complex subject but we can state facts - that over a certain  level (in the UK we use a waist measurement which is a simple test) there are health risks.




popeye1250 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 12:01:52 PM)

Blktall, I'm not being melodramatic about it.
Yahoo News just had an article this past week about this subject.
The article stated that childhood obesity makes it three times as likely that someone will suffer a fatal coronary in middle age.
Then there's stroke, diabetes and a bunch of other stuff.
And yes, slim people do suffer heart attacks for no reason as well. It's just that being slim reduces greatly your chances of heart attack, stroke or diabetes. No "guarantees" in life.
Some of the BBWs in here sound like the "active" alchoholics or drug addicts who try to "rationalize" their drinking or drug taking.
How about a handle for them as well? ("A.H.A.") " Active Happy Alcholic", or ("E.D.A.") "Elated Drug Addict"
Would you want to go out with them?  "Pull over to the corner Hon I need to grab some Horse!"  Or; "Pull into this bar for a couple minutes, I need to get a couple Nips to get rid of the shakes."
Forty years ago there was a much lower percentage of overweight people in the U.S.
What has happened in the last 40 years that has made this such an epidemic? Why didn't these "medical conditions" seem to exist in the U.S. 40 or 50 years ago? They just seem to have manifested themselves in the last 40-50 years? Anyone know? Why does China not have this problem? Or India or Russia?
When's the last time you saw an overweight Chinese person? I can't remember ever seeing an overweight Chinese person in real life. On t.v. maybe. Could this be a racial disease or a Western disease?
One thing I notice, when I'm out walking or riding my bike I don't see many overweight people walking or riding bikes.
And it (IS) a medical emergency; ask any doctor. That's not my "opinion."
It's simple arithmetic, if you expend more calories than you consume, you will lose weight, "medical condition" or no.
Keeping fit is a lifestyle choice. And once you get past all the "excuses" it's not all that difficult to do.




Daddysredhead -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 12:20:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SexyRed
He said I only wrote you because I thought that because you describe yourself as BBW you would be open to anything"  BTW, this was on a vanilla site.


Hey, Red... 
Refer to your manual, "The Chubby Gal's Guide to Interpersonal Relationships and Maintaining Society-Imposed Low Self-Esteem While Taking Whatever Crap Some Dumb Ass Decides to Throw Your Way"...  there it is on pg. 192, about half-way down, third paragraph...  See it?

"Fat chicks are easy and will agree to anything.  They also have no limits as they are just thrilled to have someone pay any kind of attention to them."

Sheesh, Red...  c'mon!  There's a test on this stuff soon.  Wanna be my study partner?  [;)]

~ another chubby Redhead  (giggles wildly)




Level -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (7/22/2006 1:29:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

This is the thread that never ends.....
it just goes on and on my friends....
some people started posting it, not knowing what it was....
and they'll continue posting it forever just because..........



.... yes...................... it's THE THREAD THAT WOULDN'T DIE, PART 3
 
Starring
 
Kolestra Rawls as The Zombie
 
Directed by Level McLevel
 
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