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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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And this guy is not a supporter of Civil Rights?

You have shown us the jobs he had...will you show us what he did in support of civil rights?

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Many people realize that calling a Black man an "Uncle Tom", is a racial insult.

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The great irony of course is that Stowe's Uncle Tom died from being beaten to death.... for refusing to betray the whereabouts of runaway slaves. Incredibly brave and honorable.

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Lets look at the how well blacks have done under Democratic tutelage.

Turn of the century - % of 2 family homes: 98% (higher than whites as a matter of fact). Now 35% of black children have two parent homes
% of children born out of wedlock - less than 5%. Now 70% of black children are born out of wedlock.
% of black men in jail exceed the percent in college.
The National bureau of Economic research reports that economic segregation INCREASED.

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Lets look at the how well blacks have done under Democratic tutelage.

Turn of the century - % of 2 family homes: 98% (higher than whites as a matter of fact). Now 35% of black children have two parent homes
% of children born out of wedlock - less than 5%. Now 70% of black children are born out of wedlock.
% of black men in jail exceed the percent in college.
The National bureau of Economic research reports that economic segregation INCREASED.

There has been no change in black unemployment (relative to whites) since statistics first started taking place.
African males participation in college, in medicine and in most professional fields has CRATERED, lower now than 32 years ago.

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Let me help you out here. To refer to Stokely Carmichael as "stokley carmichel" is an insult. To call him an Uncle Tom would be a joke. And to call Justice Thomas an Uncle Tom is a racial insult.

You're welcome.
K.

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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

Clarence Thomas has not done one single thing during his time on SCOTUS to help black people. He was nominated for SCOTUS and approved PRECISELY because white people knew he would vote against the interests of black people. And that is EXACTLY what he has done.

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To those who keep raising the issue that Uncle Tom's character in the book actually died from being beaten to death for refusing to betray the whereabouts of runaway slaves - this is absolutely true of the book. HOWEVER, the term "Uncle Tom" has now evolved into an epithet for a person who is slavish and excessively subservient to perceived authority figures, particularly a black person who behaves in a subservient manner to white people; or any person perceived to be a participant in the oppression of their own group. In colonial India, people used the term to refer to Indians who were co-opted by the British to help rule the colony. It is not a term that is used only for black people. The term has evolved to define any person who aids in oppressing their own group. The term can also be used to describe white people.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Lets look at the how well blacks have done under Democratic tutelage.

Turn of the century - % of 2 family homes: 98% (higher than whites as a matter of fact). Now 35% of black children have two parent homes
% of children born out of wedlock - less than 5%. Now 70% of black children are born out of wedlock.
% of black men in jail exceed the percent in college.
The National bureau of Economic research reports that economic segregation INCREASED.

There has been no change in black unemployment (relative to whites) since statistics first started taking place.
African males participation in college, in medicine and in most professional fields has CRATERED, lower now than 32 years ago.

When you start tossing out stats, how about including the sources.

These figures arent "Now", they are 2006.

I want to clear this question up once and for all. It is said that 70% of black children are born to single mothers. Or 70% of black children don't have a father in the house.

This information is based on a 2006 study that documented the number of births that year.

Source: United States Center for Disease Control 2006 Census data:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr56/nvsr56_07.pdf

On page 6 it says...

70% of black women out of 617,220 births in the year 2006 were born to mothers who were not married at the time that they gave birth. This does not mean they did not marry later. It merely reflects their marital status at the time that they gave birth.

On the surface, this appears to be true based on what government agencies like the census and local offices are told.

This lie has been transmuted to several things. 70% of black women are unmarried, 70% of black women are single. 70% of black children don't have fathers. 70% of black households have no man in the house... and so on. You can google all of those phrases. 70% is the "catch all" number for all topics about black women now, and even credible news sources have not clarified this number. It's gone viral when there's really no truth to it.

How do you determine that only 35% of black children have a 2 parent home?

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Lets look at the how well blacks have done under Democratic tutelage.

Turn of the century - % of 2 family homes: 98% (higher than whites as a matter of fact). Now 35% of black children have two parent homes
% of children born out of wedlock - less than 5%. Now 70% of black children are born out of wedlock.
% of black men in jail exceed the percent in college.
The National bureau of Economic research reports that economic segregation INCREASED.

A few thoughts:

-- I'm not quite sure what you mean by "tutelage."

-- For much of the 1900s, blacks were, I believe, more aligned with Republicans than Democrats. I don't think the shift toward the Democracy came until the Civil Rights movement and Nixon's "southern strategy."

-- It would be interesting to see whether the trends charted in your statistics are endemic to blacks or reflect changes in the larger society.

-- Throughout this period, Democrats and Republicans have alternated control of the White House and Congress. Have things been better for African Americans during GOP governance?

-- In 1900, Jim Crow reigned, lynchings were celebrated rather than punished, and voting was a lost hope for many (most?) African Americans. Do you really think blacks were better off then?

-- How did Democrats bring about economic segregation?

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Black realignment occured mostly under the new deal.

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The trends are not endemic to blacks - but they are far more severe in the black population.

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While it is true that Democrats and Republicans have alternated control, republicans have passed virtually no social legislation that "advanced' civil rights. So this entire social direction we've been taking is following a democrat pied-piper.

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It was a republican president and a republican congress that passed the 13-15th amendments. It was the republican party that was specifically formed as an abolitionist party. And lynchings etc occurred under DEMOCRAT governors, not republicans, in the 1870's - 1900s.

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regarding economic segregation: The democrats didn't bring about economic segregation. They promulgated policies that designed to end it. De facto (as opposed to de jure) segregation continues to exist despite flushing trillions of dollars down this pipedream.

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Let me give you a small example.

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How is it that the illegal immigrant community - works without the benefit of a minimum wage do you suppose. And millions of them have gone on to own homes. Put kids through college.

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How about we argue the point instead of citations.

My thesis is that the explosion of black illegitimacy occurred under the social policies that have been promulgated in the 20th century, most at the behest of democrats.

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That there has been concomitant destruction of the black family.

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That the social policies that were suppose to end discrimination in the workplace have been an abject failure. I would add that our educational policies have been a complete disaster for black males.

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Feel free to provide cites showing the opposite

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How is it that the illegal immigrant community - works without the benefit of a minimum wage do you suppose. And millions of them have gone on to own homes. Put kids through college.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

To call stokley carmichel an uncle tom would be a racial insult....to call clarence thomas an uncle tom is a statement of fact.

Let me help you out here. To refer to Stokely Carmichael as "stokley carmichel" is an insult. To call him an Uncle Tom would be a joke. And to call Justice Thomas an Uncle Tom is a racial insult.

You're welcome.

K.

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A minimum wage eliminates jobs.