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Thank you for re-posting this, Bama.

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Unless of course, you end up killing your neighbor's child with it....

"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread"

If my neighbor's football playing teen-ager is bashing my head against the concrete on the curb and I'm armed, he's a dead man.

You do know that was pop warner football don't you and not High School?

At 14 my son weighed 300, played defensive tackle and could have twisted Zimmerman"s head off.

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Nor much of an understanding

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Thank you for re-posting this, Bama.

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Unless of course, you end up killing your neighbor's child with it....

"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread"

If my neighbor's football playing teen-ager is bashing my head against the concrete on the curb and I'm armed, he's a dead man.

You do know that was pop warner football don't you and not High School?

At 14 my son weighed 300, played defensive tackle and could have twisted Zimmerman"s head off.

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If my neighbor's football playing teen-ager is bashing my head against the concrete on the curb and I'm armed, he's a dead man.

You do know that was pop warner football don't you and not High School?

At 14 my son weighed 300, played defensive tackle and could have twisted Zimmerman"s head off.

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Nor much of an understanding

Tazzy I do not know how the jury selection went to select only women... I did not know all were white... but all that aside... should not the case be decided on facts and not emotion? Why should it make any difference that these particular white women may not have a black man or woman's experience or the black perspective? Facts are facts evidence is evidence that is all that should count.

This happened in a gated community and these women are members of the area...just as a jury is supposed to be... should that not be enough? Are we still at the point where whites cannot judge blacks fairly? I hope the hell not.

Butch

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It`s a scary black thing.....For some whites, they`re all scary....

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I'd call in the dark, on neutral ground or your property suspecting one or more criminals in the immediate vicinity is a reasonable threat.

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If my neighbor's football playing teen-ager is bashing my head against the concrete on the curb and I'm armed, he's a dead man.

You do know that was pop warner football don't you and not High School?

At 14 my son weighed 300, played defensive tackle and could have twisted Zimmerman"s head off.

At 17, my youngest was 5' 9", weighed about 190 and regularly took me down on the practice field (I was his coach). Now, I wasn't 25, at the time but, when I was 25, I wasn't a disgusting fat body like Zimmerman, either.

Of course, I've seen what would appear to be physical mis-matches plenty of times. It happens.

The long and short of it is poor, "innocent" Martin bit off a little bit more than he could chew this time.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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I'd call in the dark, on neutral ground or your property suspecting one or more criminals in the immediate vicinity is a reasonable threat.

"Neutral ground" equals, say, a public park?
You hear...? Running footsteps? Rustling in the bushes?
You "suspect" "one or more criminals in the immediate vicinity"
You draw.
Children run from the bushes playing tag.
Guilty of wanton endangerment.

There has to be a reasonable and credible threat. "I suspect" does not necessarily meet that standard.

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It`s a scary black thing.....For some whites, they`re all scary....

That works both ways, ya know.

In fact, lets go broader. Almost every race/class/culture/religion is scared of someone else-it's fucking human nature.

There's this amazing psychological construct called "The Other." Wild shit-seems we have this almost built in capacity to demonize others who have opposing views, economics, idealogies. For example, many Christians fear Muslims. Many Muslims think Christians want to destroy them. Each paints the other in broad stereotyped cliches propagated by mass media, usually as the devil or something equally absurd. This heightens suspicions, increases differences, plays on existing incipient paranoia, reduces communication, alienates and isolates until no accommodation or common ground can be found.
We're just fucked up paranoid chimps-that's all.

In fact, every once in a while I have this vision of a bunch of apes gathered round looking at us, shaking their heads, and going, "No way those idjits descended from us."

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That works both ways, ya know.

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[:D][:D] What did you feed him? Everything?? [:D][:D]

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That works both ways, ya know.

Isn't that the truth and a Goddamn shame... there are places in St. Louis where you are asking for a foot in the ass or a bullet in the brain if you are white...

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17 year old child is walking home in his own neighborhood. A third party aggressor follows him, an altercation ensues, and the aggressor shoots the unarmed child dead.


I thought you guys had given up the "innocent child" routine. He was old enough to join the Marines.

So what`s your excuse.......you`re a grown man.

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LIVE

Wolf Blitzer, commenting on the testimony of the lead detective in the case, just called his testimony "pretty good for the defense".

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It`s a scary black thing.....For some whites, they`re all scary....

That works both ways, ya know.

In fact, lets go broader. Almost every race/class/culture/religion is scared of someone else-it's fucking human nature.

There's this amazing psychological construct called "The Other." Wild shit-seems we have this almost built in capacity to demonize others who have opposing views, economics, idealogies. For example, many Christians fear Muslims. Many Muslims think Christians want to destroy them. Each paints the other in broad stereotyped cliches propagated by mass media, usually as the devil or something equally absurd. This heightens suspicions, increases differences, plays on existing incipient paranoia, reduces communication, alienates and isolates until no accommodation or common ground can be found.
We're just fucked up paranoid chimps-that's all.

In fact, every once in a while I have this vision of a bunch of apes gathered round looking at us, shaking their heads, and going, "No way those idjits descended from us."

I can see how one could come to that conclusion.


Of course it would require totally ignoring history and events past and recent regarding racial hatred, it`s perpetrators and the victims.


Why do you think the rightists are pushing a phony narrative of white being oppressed?


Hint, it`s not because white republicans are victims of bigotry.

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Then the pressure started coming from both citizens that knew nothing of the case except it was white on black and politicians.
Butch

And the biggest irony and most jaw dropping aspect of this racially charged case is that it isn't even white on black-it's Hispanic on black.
Really, it has zip to do with white folks entirely :-)

And yet its going to be white people who decide the fate.

How ironic is that.

True but maybe they don't have a dog in this fight.

Nor much of an understanding