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dcnovice -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:19:32 PM)

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Thank Gaia that The Messiah Barack Hussein Obama was able to intervene and vouch for St. Skittles to prevent his name from being tarred with allegations of burglary, delinquency, drug use and brawling.

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truckinslave -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:19:37 PM)

I imagine many people are stunned by the magnitude of shooting someone at close range, especially for the first time. And, I personally have felt the need to pace when I was shedding adrenaline.




Rule -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:21:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
That he had shoved the corpse off of him, rolled over or otherwise moved to straddle it and then remained there for long enough that the witness got outside to see it?

Please show us the video that you saw.




tazzygirl -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:25:36 PM)

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/simpson/jurypage.html




vincentML -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:29:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
That he had shoved the corpse off of him, rolled over or otherwise moved to straddle it and then remained there for long enough that the witness got outside to see it?

Please show us the video that you saw.


Zimmer stated he pushed Martin off after he shot him and hearing him still alive straddled him and pinned his arms crying to a neighbor for help. Zimmer learned Martin was dead when he was being interviewed at around 8 pm in the police station.




Rule -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:34:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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ORIGINAL: Rule
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That he had shoved the corpse off of him, rolled over or otherwise moved to straddle it and then remained there for long enough that the witness got outside to see it?

Please show us the video that you saw.

Zimmer stated he pushed Martin off after he shot him and hearing him still alive straddled him and pinned his arms crying to a neighbor for help. Zimmer learned Martin was dead when he was being interviewed at around 8 pm in the police station.

Ah. Thank you.

Then: I do not find it odd that he got up after that and started to pace to walk off the adrenalin.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:37:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

OMG

I just read an unbiased article, and I truly have been trying to keep an open mind. CNN published this, and it really has me questioning my preconceptions:

The forensic evidence clearly establishes that George Zimmerman was trying to induce an earthquake by banging the back of his own head against the concrete while simultaneously and viciously smashing his nose against Trayvon Martin's fists while St. Trayvon was screaming for help in frantic fear for his life as he straddled Zimmerman completely unable to get his fists out of the path of Zimmerman's head.

That Nazi Spic bastard Zimmerman's crime is all the more diabolical as he cleverly alerted the Sanford police to the fact that he was stalking the sweet angelic 10 y/o St. Trayvon and gave them his name and address, calling them to the scene of his planned assassination, timing his nefarious call so that the police would be sure to arrive while he was still on the scene and thereby establish his alibi. Fortunately MSNBC's Reverend Al Sharpton of Tawana Brawley fame was able to expose the racist conspiracy between the Sanford police and George Zimmerman thereby preventing Zimmerman from escaping the social justice due for the millions of Trayvon Martins brutally assassinated every year by WHITE hispanics like George Zimmerman.

Thank Gaia that The Messiah Barack Hussein Obama was able to intervene and vouch for St. Skittles to prevent his name from being tarred with allegations of burglary, delinquency, drug use and brawling.



THIS came from CNN? Really?




farglebargle -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:37:13 PM)

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He was killed while he attacked, mauled and perchance tried to kill an innocent person.


I OBJECT. Assumes facts NOT IN EVIDENCE. ( Check the evidence admitted IN THE TRIAL. That assertion of Zimmerman's has never been MADE AT TRIAL. And every time Mark O'Mara tried to suggest it, BLDR had the Judge slap him down, eventually leading to a conference about how O'Mara needed to establish a whole lot of groundwork before asking a question predicated on that. O'Mare then had nothing much to ask and they excused the witness.

So, why doesn't everyone stop making an assertion which isn't relevant to the trial.




truckinslave -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:38:45 PM)

No, actually it was the NYT. [:D]




farglebargle -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:40:12 PM)

What was Zimmerman thinking, holstering his weapon while Trayvon Martin was still alive and -- in his narrative -- a potential threat?




truckinslave -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:41:32 PM)

Actually, the prosecution, in what everyone seems to think was a huge tactical mistake, played for the jury Zimmerman's initial interview. Which means that, yeah, he got his side of the story (as above, pretty much) without being subjected to cross-examination.




BamaD -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:42:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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He was killed while he attacked, mauled and perchance tried to kill an innocent person.


I OBJECT. Assumes facts NOT IN EVIDENCE. ( Check the evidence admitted IN THE TRIAL. That assertion of Zimmerman's has never been MADE AT TRIAL. And every time Mark O'Mara tried to suggest it, BLDR had the Judge slap him down, eventually leading to a conference about how O'Mara needed to establish a whole lot of groundwork before asking a question predicated on that. O'Mare then had nothing much to ask and they excused the witness.

So, why doesn't everyone stop making an assertion which isn't relevant to the trial.

It is only not relevant if you are of the why waste time with a trial just hang him crowd, otherwise it is the central point to the whole matter.




BamaD -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:43:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

What was Zimmerman thinking, holstering his weapon while Trayvon Martin was still alive and -- in his narrative -- a potential threat?

How about that he didn't want Martin to die.




farglebargle -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:44:33 PM)

"Zimmerman's Claims" is not evidence in a trial. There's a difference, and if someone doesn't know what it is, perhaps they're not qualified to participate in a meaningful way in this discussion.





farglebargle -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:50:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

What was Zimmerman thinking, holstering his weapon while Trayvon Martin was still alive and -- in his narrative -- a potential threat?

How about that he didn't want Martin to die.


Well, George Zimmerman had a whole lot of decision points where he made a choice which lead to him killing Trayvon Martin, so I'm not seeing how that works him not wanting Trayvon Martin to die after killing him.

Remember, It's Trayvon who stops screaming when the gunshot happens. That's because he's instantly dead.

"You hear that voice in the background? That's you. You hear yourself?" asked Serino.

"That doesn't even sound like me," said Zimmerman.




Rule -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:54:14 PM)

I think that the world is a better, safer place for Martin not being in it anymore.

I also think that many more criminals ought to be struck dead by lightning.




truckinslave -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:57:18 PM)

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"Zimmerman's Claims" is not evidence in a trial.


Of course it is.
Testimony is evidence.
His interview with police was just ADMITTED into evidence and includes his description of events.

Just say no.




truckinslave -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 5:59:16 PM)

That really is an interesting exchange.
There is no doubt in the minds of Serino or Zimmerman that it is, in fact, Zimmerman.
Fear has rendered his voice unrecognizable.




dcnovice -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 6:00:12 PM)

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I think that the world is a better, safer place for Martin not being in it anymore.

Don't forget the decrease to the surplus population. [8|]




BitYakin -> RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE (7/1/2013 6:01:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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I didn't think pop warner went to 17.
And when someone bounces your head off the pavement you don't ask for credentials.


Did ya ever think T got a shot in, popped Z in the nose, Z went down, popped his head?

FFS, you guys make it sound like a 158 lb kid was pile driving Z's head into the pavement.

Yes as Martin jumped on top of him. It would seem to Zimmerman that Martin was driving his head into the ground. I have stated repeatedly (in other threads) that I see this as a great tragedy, not a crime.


Forensics has yet to testify, correct?

I think many are assuming his injuries means someone repeatedly drove Z's head into the concrete. That's not the injury I see. A fractured skull, a concussion.... those would say that had happened, not two small lacerations and a few bumps.


well thats not absolute, I once slide off the trunk of a car going arox 20 miles an house, landed feet first with my back to the direction of travel, flipped and landed on my head and shoulders then flipped agian and came to a stop, no condusion, no fracture and no stitches...

maybe I was lucky, maybe I have a had head, but the point is the injuries you DEMAND he must have becuse of this is just not factual!

and that just one of the times my head has been bounced of something realllly hard

never once have I ever even gone to a doctor over any of these things

once I had a guy tackle me drove his shoulder into my stomach, wraped his arms around my knees and lifted me and pile dorve me down backwards on a solidly frozen field, rendered me unconsious for a few seconds with out even a scratch on me head

once I was hit about the head with a nightstick three solid blows the third made me see stars not a scratch

ohh and BTW what made the guy stop hitting me was one of my friends yelled, HAROLD, you got your GUN.

possible, maybe even probable, but certianly not required




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