ForgetToRemember
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A lot has gone on since my last post. Unfortunately a lot of ignorance and hate has shown up in this thread. I hope to end it once and for all though. What we are concerned about when using electricity is the interruption of electrical impulses sent from the spinal cord (which is sent from the brain). The items that are of any kind of life threat to us include the nerves of the Heart, Diaphragm and Major Arteries (Carotid and Coronary are the only ones possible to cause actual damage). So those are the things capable of causing death or serious injury when talking about electrical play. You can refer to my post on page 1 on how you can die from these being disrupted. Now we have to understand electricity. I'm not going to get into details, but let's just say that amps decide whether or not your nerves are disrupted. The amount of amps needed for the heart nerves to be disrupted are between 75 to 100 miliamps (.075-.1A). The higher the amps, the worse / more likely you will die. This is the amount required if directly in contact with the heart. In order to get through to your heart however, the current must bypass your resistance. Skin is by far the largest resistance factor we have, followed by fat, bone then muscle and nerve tissue. This is where the AC vs DC matters. AC is able to bypass the epidermis (the top layer of skin, mostly dead cells which also offer the highest amount of electrical resistance). Dry skin can offer between 1,000 to 100,000 ohms of resistance. Note that if you are using some sort of electrical play lubricant, this will also significantly lower the resistance of your skin (or if it's just wet). Thus, the amount of voltage needed will be less in order to apply the same amount of current to the heart. Someone was mentioning defibrillators wasting electricity...they do not really care how many amps are put into your heart because it is meant to be used only during ventricular fibrillation. So defibrillators can both cause a heart attack and reset the heart. So, to sum it up: You need the actual current (amperes) that reach the AV node in the heart to be greater than .075. AC current makes it much easier to cause damage due to it bypassing the electrical resistance of your epidermis layer of skin. I do not know the exact voltage required to reach the heart through the skin, muscle, fat and bones. Therefore it is very difficult to determine the exact cut off point for safe electrical toys around the heart. So i will give an example: A TENS unit with 12 volts going through the body's total resistance of 500 ohms would produce a current of .024 amperes. Please note that the numbers are all made up as we cannot know the exact resistance from the surface of the skin to the heart. 120 volts over the same resistance would cause .24 amperes, sufficient to cause ventricular fibrillation. To sum it up: It's quite possible that the makers of electrical play devices have found the perfect settings to make it impossible to cause serious damage using their product. However, unless you have a reason to think that, I would stay away from the Heart, Neck and Spinal Column. If you absolutely must use e-stim in those areas DO NOT USE LUBE! It will significantly reduce the resistance of the skin and cause unexpectedly more damage. My final word of advice: learn as much as you can if you absolutely need to use it in those areas, or use a closed circuit e-stim device that completes the circuit at a much lower distance / resistance than going into deep tissue / the heart.
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