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Raiikun -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 8:24:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: DominantJ247

Could treyvon of inflicted that damage without damage to his hands?

The blow to the nose wouldn't likely have done any damage to Martin's hand. Zimmerman falling down and banging his head against something doesn't involve Martin at all. And that is all the damage Zimmerman suffered.


False. George would have had to have fallen and hit his head at least half a dozen times to account for the multiple bumps, bruises, lacerations, etc on all sides of his head.




DomKen -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 11:34:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: DominantJ247

So anyone have a theory that supports him not having 1 molecule of Zimmerman Dna on his body?

Zimmerman tries to grab Martin, because he is a cop wannabe and wants to "detain" Martin. Martin punches him. Zimmerman falls down and goes for his pistol. Martin get's on him to try and get control of the gun. Martin yells for help, Zimmerman shoots Martin.

That is more consistent with the evidence than all of Zimmerman's claims.


Nope. That conflicts with Zimmerman's story, with the witness claiming he saw Martin on top of Zimmerman, and with all earwitnesses' claims that the yelling for help was not a one-second thing.

I put Martin was on top and didn't specify how long the yelling went on.

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The huge problem with this case is that, with the actual evidence being so lacking, that it is very easy to fit numerous scenarios to fit it. What many people fail to understand is that the paucity of evidence necessarily works against the party who bears the burden of proof, in this case the prosecution.

Which is why historically and everywhere else in the country a self defense claim is an affirmative defense and the burden shifts to the defense.




DomKen -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 11:35:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: DominantJ247

Could treyvon of inflicted that damage without damage to his hands?

The blow to the nose wouldn't likely have done any damage to Martin's hand. Zimmerman falling down and banging his head against something doesn't involve Martin at all. And that is all the damage Zimmerman suffered.


False. George would have had to have fallen and hit his head at least half a dozen times to account for the multiple bumps, bruises, lacerations, etc on all sides of his head.


Nope. The injuries were consistent with one impact.




BamaD -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 11:48:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: DominantJ247

Could treyvon of inflicted that damage without damage to his hands?

The blow to the nose wouldn't likely have done any damage to Martin's hand. Zimmerman falling down and banging his head against something doesn't involve Martin at all. And that is all the damage Zimmerman suffered.


False. George would have had to have fallen and hit his head at least half a dozen times to account for the multiple bumps, bruises, lacerations, etc on all sides of his head.


Nope. The injuries were consistent with one impact.

Said the witness who later admitted it could have been four or five.




Raiikun -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 1:52:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: DominantJ247

Could treyvon of inflicted that damage without damage to his hands?

The blow to the nose wouldn't likely have done any damage to Martin's hand. Zimmerman falling down and banging his head against something doesn't involve Martin at all. And that is all the damage Zimmerman suffered.


False. George would have had to have fallen and hit his head at least half a dozen times to account for the multiple bumps, bruises, lacerations, etc on all sides of his head.


Nope. The injuries were consistent with one impact.

Said the witness who later admitted it could have been four or five.


And the photos and other experts who said it could have been at least 6, and was able to point to each injury. He has punctate bruising on his right temple, 2 lacerations on the back of his head, several different knots, swelling on the left side of his head so bad that Singleton asked if that was the normal shape of his head, then pointed out the following day how much the swelling had gone down...

It's simply impossible for the many injuries (however slight some of them are) to have been caused by a single impact. To try and claim it is shows severe ignorance to the evidence in the case.




DomKen -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 2:35:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: DominantJ247

Could treyvon of inflicted that damage without damage to his hands?

The blow to the nose wouldn't likely have done any damage to Martin's hand. Zimmerman falling down and banging his head against something doesn't involve Martin at all. And that is all the damage Zimmerman suffered.


False. George would have had to have fallen and hit his head at least half a dozen times to account for the multiple bumps, bruises, lacerations, etc on all sides of his head.


Nope. The injuries were consistent with one impact.

Said the witness who later admitted it could have been four or five.

Could have been does not rule out it being only one and the ME said it was consistent with only one.




BamaD -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 2:52:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: DominantJ247

Could treyvon of inflicted that damage without damage to his hands?

The blow to the nose wouldn't likely have done any damage to Martin's hand. Zimmerman falling down and banging his head against something doesn't involve Martin at all. And that is all the damage Zimmerman suffered.


False. George would have had to have fallen and hit his head at least half a dozen times to account for the multiple bumps, bruises, lacerations, etc on all sides of his head.


Nope. The injuries were consistent with one impact.

Said the witness who later admitted it could have been four or five.

Could have been does not rule out it being only one and the ME said it was consistent with only one.

It was the ME who said 4 or 5 was also possible so in the end they really said they did not know.




Raiikun -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 2:54:01 PM)

And that medical examiner the State used to say that has credibility issues. The State brought her in as a witness at the last second and tried to keep her unavailable for deposition as long as possible, then at trial she emphasized the photo of George's head that showed the least injury, and made up excuses as to why she didn't like the other photos that proved her wrong.

Which is why the Defense brought in a much more credible Medical Examiner who said George's wounds are inconsistent with it being only one impact.




DomKen -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 4:27:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

And that medical examiner the State used to say that has credibility issues. The State brought her in as a witness at the last second and tried to keep her unavailable for deposition as long as possible, then at trial she emphasized the photo of George's head that showed the least injury, and made up excuses as to why she didn't like the other photos that proved her wrong.

Which is why the Defense brought in a much more credible Medical Examiner who said George's wounds are inconsistent with it being only one impact.

You believe the person paid to say whatever the defense wants. I believe the public servant that gets paid no matter what the testimony is.




DomKen -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 4:29:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

It was the ME who said 4 or 5 was also possible so in the end they really said they did not know.

No. What the ME said was the injuries were consistent with a single impact on a hard surface. That many more blows that did no damage may have happened couldn't be ruled out but the injuries only indicate a single impact.




BamaD -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 6:14:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

And that medical examiner the State used to say that has credibility issues. The State brought her in as a witness at the last second and tried to keep her unavailable for deposition as long as possible, then at trial she emphasized the photo of George's head that showed the least injury, and made up excuses as to why she didn't like the other photos that proved her wrong.

Which is why the Defense brought in a much more credible Medical Examiner who said George's wounds are inconsistent with it being only one impact.

You believe the person paid to say whatever the defense wants. I believe the public servant that gets paid no matter what the testimony is.

And by the time she finished testimony it was 1 to 5 times.




DomKen -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 6:47:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

And that medical examiner the State used to say that has credibility issues. The State brought her in as a witness at the last second and tried to keep her unavailable for deposition as long as possible, then at trial she emphasized the photo of George's head that showed the least injury, and made up excuses as to why she didn't like the other photos that proved her wrong.

Which is why the Defense brought in a much more credible Medical Examiner who said George's wounds are inconsistent with it being only one impact.

You believe the person paid to say whatever the defense wants. I believe the public servant that gets paid no matter what the testimony is.

And by the time she finished testimony it was 1 to 5 times.

Why do you keep at this. She could not rule out more impacts because in science there is never proof of a negative but she made clear the injuries were consistent with a single impact.




BamaD -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 6:58:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

And that medical examiner the State used to say that has credibility issues. The State brought her in as a witness at the last second and tried to keep her unavailable for deposition as long as possible, then at trial she emphasized the photo of George's head that showed the least injury, and made up excuses as to why she didn't like the other photos that proved her wrong.

Which is why the Defense brought in a much more credible Medical Examiner who said George's wounds are inconsistent with it being only one impact.

You believe the person paid to say whatever the defense wants. I believe the public servant that gets paid no matter what the testimony is.

And by the time she finished testimony it was 1 to 5 times.

Why do you keep at this. She could not rule out more impacts because in science there is never proof of a negative but she made clear the injuries were consistent with a single impact.

The only thing she made clear was that she didn't know what she was talking about, one strike was what she was paid to say.




Kana -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 7:10:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

And that medical examiner the State used to say that has credibility issues. The State brought her in as a witness at the last second and tried to keep her unavailable for deposition as long as possible, then at trial she emphasized the photo of George's head that showed the least injury, and made up excuses as to why she didn't like the other photos that proved her wrong.

Which is why the Defense brought in a much more credible Medical Examiner who said George's wounds are inconsistent with it being only one impact.

You believe the person paid to say whatever the defense wants. I believe the public servant that gets paid no matter what the testimony is.

Course one has to admit there is a possibility of a career govvie being paid in something other than straight coin, and being threatened in the same fashion.
Generally speaking, in most cases,I'm with you as far as having massive skepticism towards defense experts, for exactly the reasons you outlined.
I'm not so much in this case for two main reasons:

1-The defense witness, Di Maio-the guy literally wrote the book.

I'm being lazy so I'll Wiki his bio:

"Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio is an American pathologist and a nationally renowned expert on the subject of gunshot wounds. Di Maio is a board-certified anatomical, clinical and forensic pathologist, and a private forensic pathology consultant. He attended St. John's University and the State University of New York (SUNY), and received postgraduate training at Duke University, SUNY, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of Maryland.

Di Maio is a veteran of the U.S. Army Medical Corps, and served as chief medical examiner of San Antonio, Texas until 2006, when he retired; Di Maio has more than 40 years of experience as a forensic pathologist. He has been editor-in-chief of the Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology, and a professor of the Department of Pathology at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio. Di Maio is a fellow of the National Association of Medical Examiners (NAME) and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, and in 2011 he was appointed to the Texas Forensic Science Commission by Governor Rick Perry.'

Di Maio has authored or co-authored four books and numerous articles related to forensic pathology, and has won several awards for his work, including the Outstanding Service Award from the National Association of Medical Examiners."

So the guy isn't a wingnut. He is one of the top guys in the field. Which brings us to what may be an even more important point...

2-He only made $2,400 in the Z trial. Six hrs work at $400 each. Good loot if you can get it per hour, but no man with those credentials is going to risk damaging his reputation for a mere 2 grand.
Ain't gonna happen. The risk just ain't worth the reward. Especially in a field where one error, one bad move, makes everything you've ever done prior subject to question. You don't blow a lifetime of work and tons of future earnings,not to mention the public humiliation, the damage to his reputation and the potential freeing of every prisoner in every case he's ever testified in, for a lousy 2 g's.
I'll admit it's slightly possible, but highly highly unlikely.

Whereas state people are often underpaid, overburdened, answering to too many masters, and often have less than ideal equipment (Budgets ya know.For instance, here in lovely MD, there was recently an 18 month(!!) backlog on rape kit testing.Too many tests. Not enough staff.Less employees doing more work as the recession sets in.It's a fun deal.).


In this situation, the defense witness definitely outshone the states.

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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: DominantJ247

So anyone have a theory that supports him not having 1 molecule of Zimmerman Dna on his body?


Trayvon's hands were never tested for DNA, other than scrapings from under the fingernails. Trayvon's hands were also not properly bagged to preserve evidence on them, as his body lay in the rain and wet grass for hours, with nothing more than a tarp thrown over the body at some point.

So, from an evidentiary standpoint, we have no idea what would have been found on Trayvon's hands were they properly preserved and tested.

Worse, they violated basic crime scene protocol and wrapped his body in plastic,which trapped moisture inside and destroyed any DNA that may have existed (which is why it's protocol not to use plastic).
Any evidence that may have existed was kaput by the time they unwrapped the body.
It's the single biggest CSI error in this case.




DomKen -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 7:30:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kana
Course one has to admit there is a possibility of a career govvie being paid in something other than straight coin, and being threatened in the same fashion.
Generally speaking, in most cases,I'm with you as far as having massive skepticism towards defense experts, for exactly the reasons you outlined.
I'm not so much in this case for two main reasons:

1-The defense witness, Di Maio-the guy literally wrote the book.

I'm being lazy so I'll Wiki his bio:

"Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio is an American pathologist and a nationally renowned expert on the subject of gunshot wounds. Di Maio is a board-certified anatomical, clinical and forensic pathologist, and a private forensic pathology consultant. He attended St. John's University and the State University of New York (SUNY), and received postgraduate training at Duke University, SUNY, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of Maryland.

Di Maio is a veteran of the U.S. Army Medical Corps, and served as chief medical examiner of San Antonio, Texas until 2006, when he retired; Di Maio has more than 40 years of experience as a forensic pathologist. He has been editor-in-chief of the Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology, and a professor of the Department of Pathology at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio. Di Maio is a fellow of the National Association of Medical Examiners (NAME) and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, and in 2011 he was appointed to the Texas Forensic Science Commission by Governor Rick Perry.'

If he was testifying about a gun shot wound I would expect his testimony to be correct but that appointment by Perry deeply concerns me. in 2009 Perry replaced several members of the Texas Forensic Science Commission to change the outcome of the investigation of the wrongful execution of Cameron Willingham. I doubt he later appointed anyone not agreeable to providing him with his foregone conclusion.




Kana -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 7:39:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Kana
Course one has to admit there is a possibility of a career govvie being paid in something other than straight coin, and being threatened in the same fashion.
Generally speaking, in most cases,I'm with you as far as having massive skepticism towards defense experts, for exactly the reasons you outlined.
I'm not so much in this case for two main reasons:

1-The defense witness, Di Maio-the guy literally wrote the book.

I'm being lazy so I'll Wiki his bio:

"Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio is an American pathologist and a nationally renowned expert on the subject of gunshot wounds. Di Maio is a board-certified anatomical, clinical and forensic pathologist, and a private forensic pathology consultant. He attended St. John's University and the State University of New York (SUNY), and received postgraduate training at Duke University, SUNY, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of Maryland.

Di Maio is a veteran of the U.S. Army Medical Corps, and served as chief medical examiner of San Antonio, Texas until 2006, when he retired; Di Maio has more than 40 years of experience as a forensic pathologist. He has been editor-in-chief of the Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology, and a professor of the Department of Pathology at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio. Di Maio is a fellow of the National Association of Medical Examiners (NAME) and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, and in 2011 he was appointed to the Texas Forensic Science Commission by Governor Rick Perry.'

If he was testifying about a gun shot wound I would expect his testimony to be correct but that appointment by Perry deeply concerns me. in 2009 Perry replaced several members of the Texas Forensic Science Commission to change the outcome of the investigation of the wrongful execution of Cameron Willingham. I doubt he later appointed anyone not agreeable to providing him with his foregone conclusion.

Errrrr, among other things, Di Maio did testify about the gun shot wound.

ETA-I know nothing re the other case so I'm gonna abstain from comment lest I speak out my ass.
Crazy idea I know. And on the interwebz nonetheless.

ETA PT 2-Though a cursory look seems to show that Di Maio was appointed in 2011, and Willingham was executed in 2004 and the case came to fruition in 2009-Di Maio actually was part of a new board appointed in the backlash of the outcry re that case. So to tar him with that brush is unfair and incorrect.




BamaD -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 7:41:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: DominantJ247

Could treyvon of inflicted that damage without damage to his hands?

The blow to the nose wouldn't likely have done any damage to Martin's hand. Zimmerman falling down and banging his head against something doesn't involve Martin at all. And that is all the damage Zimmerman suffered.


False. George would have had to have fallen and hit his head at least half a dozen times to account for the multiple bumps, bruises, lacerations, etc on all sides of his head.


Nope. The injuries were consistent with one impact.

Said the witness who later admitted it could have been four or five.

Could have been does not rule out it being only one and the ME said it was consistent with only one.

Not the one who actually saw the body, one they brought in to look at the pictures and say what the prosecution wanted them to.




BamaD -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 7:47:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kana

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

And that medical examiner the State used to say that has credibility issues. The State brought her in as a witness at the last second and tried to keep her unavailable for deposition as long as possible, then at trial she emphasized the photo of George's head that showed the least injury, and made up excuses as to why she didn't like the other photos that proved her wrong.

Which is why the Defense brought in a much more credible Medical Examiner who said George's wounds are inconsistent with it being only one impact.

You believe the person paid to say whatever the defense wants. I believe the public servant that gets paid no matter what the testimony is.

Course one has to admit there is a possibility of a career govvie being paid in something other than straight coin, and being threatened in the same fashion.
Generally speaking, in most cases,I'm with you as far as having massive skepticism towards defense experts, for exactly the reasons you outlined.
I'm not so much in this case for two main reasons:

1-The defense witness, Di Maio-the guy literally wrote the book.

I'm being lazy so I'll Wiki his bio:

"Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio is an American pathologist and a nationally renowned expert on the subject of gunshot wounds. Di Maio is a board-certified anatomical, clinical and forensic pathologist, and a private forensic pathology consultant. He attended St. John's University and the State University of New York (SUNY), and received postgraduate training at Duke University, SUNY, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of Maryland.

Di Maio is a veteran of the U.S. Army Medical Corps, and served as chief medical examiner of San Antonio, Texas until 2006, when he retired; Di Maio has more than 40 years of experience as a forensic pathologist. He has been editor-in-chief of the Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology, and a professor of the Department of Pathology at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio. Di Maio is a fellow of the National Association of Medical Examiners (NAME) and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, and in 2011 he was appointed to the Texas Forensic Science Commission by Governor Rick Perry.'

Di Maio has authored or co-authored four books and numerous articles related to forensic pathology, and has won several awards for his work, including the Outstanding Service Award from the National Association of Medical Examiners."

So the guy isn't a wingnut. He is one of the top guys in the field. Which brings us to what may be an even more important point...

2-He only made $2,400 in the Z trial. Six hrs work at $400 each. Good loot if you can get it per hour, but no man with those credentials is going to risk damaging his reputation for a mere 2 grand.
Ain't gonna happen. The risk just ain't worth the reward. Especially in a field where one error, one bad move, makes everything you've ever done prior subject to question. You don't blow a lifetime of work and tons of future earnings,not to mention the public humiliation, the damage to his reputation and the potential freeing of every prisoner in every case he's ever testified in, for a lousy 2 g's.
I'll admit it's slightly possible, but highly highly unlikely.

Whereas state people are often underpaid, overburdened, answering to too many masters, and often have less than ideal equipment (Budgets ya know.For instance, here in lovely MD, there was recently an 18 month(!!) backlog on rape kit testing.Too many tests. Not enough staff.Less employees doing more work as the recession sets in.It's a fun deal.).


In this situation, the defense witness definitely outshone the states.

ETA-

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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: DominantJ247

So anyone have a theory that supports him not having 1 molecule of Zimmerman Dna on his body?


Trayvon's hands were never tested for DNA, other than scrapings from under the fingernails. Trayvon's hands were also not properly bagged to preserve evidence on them, as his body lay in the rain and wet grass for hours, with nothing more than a tarp thrown over the body at some point.

So, from an evidentiary standpoint, we have no idea what would have been found on Trayvon's hands were they properly preserved and tested.

Worse, they violated basic crime scene protocol and wrapped his body in plastic,which trapped moisture inside and destroyed any DNA that may have existed (which is why it's protocol not to use plastic).
Any evidence that may have existed was kaput by the time they unwrapped the body.
It's the single biggest CSI error in this case.

Remember what happened to the guy who blew the whistle on them for failure to disclose.




DomKen -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 9:37:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kana

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Kana
Course one has to admit there is a possibility of a career govvie being paid in something other than straight coin, and being threatened in the same fashion.
Generally speaking, in most cases,I'm with you as far as having massive skepticism towards defense experts, for exactly the reasons you outlined.
I'm not so much in this case for two main reasons:

1-The defense witness, Di Maio-the guy literally wrote the book.

I'm being lazy so I'll Wiki his bio:

"Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio is an American pathologist and a nationally renowned expert on the subject of gunshot wounds. Di Maio is a board-certified anatomical, clinical and forensic pathologist, and a private forensic pathology consultant. He attended St. John's University and the State University of New York (SUNY), and received postgraduate training at Duke University, SUNY, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of Maryland.

Di Maio is a veteran of the U.S. Army Medical Corps, and served as chief medical examiner of San Antonio, Texas until 2006, when he retired; Di Maio has more than 40 years of experience as a forensic pathologist. He has been editor-in-chief of the Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology, and a professor of the Department of Pathology at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio. Di Maio is a fellow of the National Association of Medical Examiners (NAME) and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, and in 2011 he was appointed to the Texas Forensic Science Commission by Governor Rick Perry.'

If he was testifying about a gun shot wound I would expect his testimony to be correct but that appointment by Perry deeply concerns me. in 2009 Perry replaced several members of the Texas Forensic Science Commission to change the outcome of the investigation of the wrongful execution of Cameron Willingham. I doubt he later appointed anyone not agreeable to providing him with his foregone conclusion.

Errrrr, among other things, Di Maio did testify about the gun shot wound.

ETA-I know nothing re the other case so I'm gonna abstain from comment lest I speak out my ass.
Crazy idea I know. And on the interwebz nonetheless.

ETA PT 2-Though a cursory look seems to show that Di Maio was appointed in 2011, and Willingham was executed in 2004 and the case came to fruition in 2009-Di Maio actually was part of a new board appointed in the backlash of the outcry re that case. So to tar him with that brush is unfair and incorrect.

I simply don't trust Perry to have appointed anyone independent to that board.




Kana -> RE: The REAL discrimination in the Zimmerman case. (7/20/2013 9:44:20 PM)

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I simply don't trust Perry to have appointed anyone independent to that board.

From a quick look, this was one of those, "OK, we really fucked up.Now, we're gonna get a guy with impeccable credentials and move forward and try to brush the past under the rug," sort of appointments.
Further, I suspect this was a case where Perry had to make sure his candidate was someone the media would find, at a minimum, acceptable. Gotta appease the press. Not to mention there was considerable public pressure. All in all, this was an appointment that had to be found acceptable by many parties.
That Di Maio was might actually be a testament for him, not against.




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