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TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/6/2013 10:24:45 AM)

That's pretty much how we feel too.




PeonForHer -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/6/2013 1:44:11 PM)

K, in case you don't know what you're up against:

As a sub male, there's quite a high chance that you already feel like a failure, a loser and very much 'less than a real man'. When you come across women who *seem* to value you - but, later, show that they only value you for your wallet - you can feel a wave of hate for them, plus a whole new wave of hatred for yourself. You think to yourself, 'Eh? I love her as a goddess, and that's actually a contemptible thing in her eyes, so contemptible that I should pay her for what she sees as a perversion?'

It can, and does often, feel very, very low and ugly to be a sub-male. I wouldn't underestimate that. Myself, I have a tough hide, and I've developed the ability to see a particular woman as both a goddess, and a dickhead, at the same time. But it took a long time for me to get where I am now.




MsMJAY -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/6/2013 2:22:29 PM)

I can understand that perspective, Peon, but it is no different than the men we come across who *seem* to value us but later show they only value us for the kink or sex. We think to ourselves that he treats "other" women like women but treat Dommes as the freak to cure his perversion. I don't see Dommes coming to this site asking that we somehow try to ban the men who run "that" particular game. (And trust me there are TONS of them that try to run that game on us). Most of us just suck it up and move on or have a good laugh about it with the other women.

You may think its different, but most women will tell you, its exactly the same.




BitaTruble -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/6/2013 2:42:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

K, in case you don't know what you're up against:

As a sub male, there's quite a high chance that you already feel like a failure, a loser and very much 'less than a real man'. When you come across women who *seem* to value you - but, later, show that they only value you for your wallet - you can feel a wave of hate for them, plus a whole new wave of hatred for yourself. You think to yourself, 'Eh? I love her as a goddess, and that's actually a contemptible thing in her eyes, so contemptible that I should pay her for what she sees as a perversion?'

It can, and does often, feel very, very low and ugly to be a sub-male. I wouldn't underestimate that. Myself, I have a tough hide, and I've developed the ability to see a particular woman as both a goddess, and a dickhead, at the same time. But it took a long time for me to get where I am now.


I appreciate your perspective. I don't see it as very different from women only being valued for pussy and, on occasion, having a womb. Once the pussy is dried up
and the wombs are unavailable for rent.. a lot of folks find no value in a woman at all. In addition, we have to compete with airbrushed perfection and that can
and does effect the self-esteem of a lot of women as well.

Same boat... different passengers with different tickets for the ride but.. same boat.








MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/6/2013 2:49:18 PM)

Yes, financial independence IS POWER....but you are assuming ALL financial Dominants don't have full-time professional careers elsewhere.
Don't confuse the irritating barely-of-age girls and the I-need-you-to-pay-my-rent-before-I'm-evicted "fin-Dommes" with fully independent, educated, self-reliant
Dominant women who have careers, houses, and who are actually fully qualified to STRUCTURE and MANAGE your money and your spending habits (a good D/s relationship benefits BOTH D & s).
There are several of the latter that contribute regularly to these forums. If you'd been paying attention you would have spotted them by now.

Financial Domination used to freak Me out too, but after getting to know some of these finDommes and some of the subs who are into it, I discovered that when it's done RIGHT it's actually not a BAD thing.

Remember, the fin-subs are just as responsible for allowing abuses to occur as the bad finDommes are. When financial subs jump in headlong, blindly throwing money at women's feet and refuse
to acknowledge red flags they really have only themselves to blame for being the fools. I see very little difference between them and habitual gamblers.




quote:

ORIGINAL: Nobody84

A financial domme can't be dominant because she asks for money that most likely doesn't have. Financial independence is power.





MsMJAY -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/6/2013 3:06:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

K, in case you don't know what you're up against:

As a sub male, there's quite a high chance that you already feel like a failure, a loser and very much 'less than a real man'. When you come across women who *seem* to value you - but, later, show that they only value you for your wallet - you can feel a wave of hate for them, plus a whole new wave of hatred for yourself. You think to yourself, 'Eh? I love her as a goddess, and that's actually a contemptible thing in her eyes, so contemptible that I should pay her for what she sees as a perversion?'

It can, and does often, feel very, very low and ugly to be a sub-male. I wouldn't underestimate that. Myself, I have a tough hide, and I've developed the ability to see a particular woman as both a goddess, and a dickhead, at the same time. But it took a long time for me to get where I am now.


I appreciate your perspective. I don't see it as very different from women only being valued for pussy and, on occasion, having a womb. Once the pussy is dried up
and the wombs are unavailable for rent.. a lot of folks find no value in a woman at all. In addition, we have to compete with airbrushed perfection and that can and does effect the self-esteem of a lot of women as well.


Not to mention the men who formed their ideas about Dommes from watching porn and expect you to look and behave the way the girls in the video do.




MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/6/2013 3:12:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MsMJAY


quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

K, in case you don't know what you're up against:

As a sub male, there's quite a high chance that you already feel like a failure, a loser and very much 'less than a real man'. When you come across women who *seem* to value you - but, later, show that they only value you for your wallet - you can feel a wave of hate for them, plus a whole new wave of hatred for yourself. You think to yourself, 'Eh? I love her as a goddess, and that's actually a contemptible thing in her eyes, so contemptible that I should pay her for what she sees as a perversion?'

It can, and does often, feel very, very low and ugly to be a sub-male. I wouldn't underestimate that. Myself, I have a tough hide, and I've developed the ability to see a particular woman as both a goddess, and a dickhead, at the same time. But it took a long time for me to get where I am now.


I appreciate your perspective. I don't see it as very different from women only being valued for pussy and, on occasion, having a womb. Once the pussy is dried up
and the wombs are unavailable for rent.. a lot of folks find no value in a woman at all. In addition, we have to compete with airbrushed perfection and that can and does effect the self-esteem of a lot of women as well.


Not to mention the men who formed their ideas about Dommes from watching porn and expect you to look and behave the way the girls in the video do.


I have to agree with these last two. Even as a Dominant I find there is a high level of objectification coming from the so-called "submissivle" males, many of whom aren't even AWARE they are doing it because there is such a high degree of mental programming done by society and the media .

Why do they think We feel We must interview and cull so extensively?




Ilyrium -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 11:19:31 AM)

oh no, not Fin Dom again!




Rochsub2009 -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 11:26:26 AM)

K,
I see somebody has a hot new avatar pic.

Very nice! I know what I want for Christmas. [;)]





xxblushesxx -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 11:31:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ilyrium

oh no, not Fin Dom again!


Uhm....you bumped this up from a three day lag...did you have a particular reason for doing so?




stef -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 12:28:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Uhm....you bumped this up from a three day lag...did you have a particular reason for doing so?

I could hazard a guess but my reply would almost certainly be deleted by the ever vigilant caretakers of goodness.




VideoAdminChi -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 12:34:01 PM)

Now, now, you are perfectly capable of expressing yourself within the guidelines [:D]




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 12:39:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

Now, now, you are perfectly capable of expressing yourself within the guidelines [:D]

But it's SO much more fun when she goes off the goodness rails [:D]




VideoAdminChi -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 1:52:22 PM)

Some of her best work can only be appreciated by those of us who can see deleted posts.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 4:17:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

Some of her best work can only be appreciated by those of us who can see deleted posts.

Every now and then I get lucky enough to read a brand new post before the mods get to it. And I laugh my ass off!
I'd pay admission to read her deleted posts [:D]




PeonForHer -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 4:40:53 PM)

Yep. One post from Stef contains enough vinegar to pickle a whole field full of onions. And by god, a cmail from her - that could strip the paint off a battleship. ;-)




MissKittyDeVine -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 5:38:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

Some of her best work can only be appreciated by those of us who can see deleted posts.


Indeed.

(Now I'll have everyone wondering ... tee hee)




TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (12/9/2013 11:17:38 PM)

Chi, since it's Christmas I say let one slide...



Roch, Awww you make me blush! :)




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