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VideoAdminChi -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/24/2013 6:02:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darkmatter24 quote: ORIGINAL: Ralanr6 I believe there are a lot of scammers in the online community, Haha, you can say that again. Not only they are out there, but they are out in the open and CM moderators actively refuse to do anything about it. I remember making a thread with a few sample profiles that contain obviously stolen pictures. Most of them contain half-drunk, half-naked white chicks living it up at some frat party. A google search on the image yields dozens or hundreds of direct hits. Yet my post was deleted because, supposedly, somebody innocent could be implicated. As if it was a matter of destroying someone's reputation or putting them in prison for many years because they got banned on a kinky dating site. At the worst, the "innocent" can sign up again in about 3 minutes with a different email address. With a little bit of effort, this place could be much cleaner and user friendly. "Financial domination" is one of the things that has to go in order to make that happen. Forum moderators have nothing to do with the profile side of the site. While you are free to use the proper procedure for reporting stolen pictures on collarME.com, you may not blacklist on the discussion boards, collarCHAT.com. For your reference on why we do not allow blacklisting: http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=1163969

TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/24/2013 9:56:04 AM)
[/quote] Perhaps you should do some findomming, then you can come back and tell us how all you had to do was sit back and eat bonbons all day. OR you could get into the minds, hearts and souls of your clients, you could come up with new and interesting scenarios for each individual client, you could spend long hours talking to said clients, writing stories, making recordings, and leading your clients in the direction you think would benefit both them and you, attempt to help those who really are making detrimental choices for themselves rather than using it as entertainment and a fetish release, oh yeah, and then, eventually, I guess, you could still eat those bonbons I mentioned above. Because I guarantee a successful findom is not just lazing around waiting for someone to give them money for nothing. [/quote] Blushes..... I had to repost this again..just incase there's another person who feels we sit and do nothing all day.

ThePrincessKali -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/25/2013 1:26:31 AM)
I've noticed the same thing that people think fin dommes are just rolling in the dough while sitting around all day. I have a job, in fact I have two. To me, financial domination isn't solely about the money. I personally enjoy it on a more psychological level and it's an outlet for me. I've been to therapists because I have a bit of an anger issue with men. Not all men, but some. I was an early bloomer as some people call it and have been dealing with being oogled and what not since I was about 13. Almost every male friend I've had has tried to sleep with me, most guys who talk to me or help with anything have tried to sleep with me. I'm not trying to toot my own horn because I find it to be utterly obnoxious. So I think I just became a bitch to most straight guys to compensate. It some ways I guess it makes me feel superior to men. But I feel like guys are always trying to get something out of me. So when I'm wallet raping some guy it not only gives me a rush but I feel like I'm giving it back to the male population. I get a "haha fuck you" feeling. Maybe it's just me.

Charles6682 -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/25/2013 6:46:02 AM)
What?! A thread about Fin-Dommes here on Collarchat?! No way. I never heard of such a thing before! [8\|]

Anuser -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/25/2013 7:57:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali I was an early bloomer as some people call it and have been dealing with being oogled and what not since I was about 13. Almost every male friend I've had has tried to sleep with me, most guys who talk to me or help with anything have tried to sleep with me. I'm not trying to toot my own horn because I find it to be utterly obnoxious. So I think I just became a bitch to most straight guys to compensate. It some ways I guess it makes me feel superior to men. But I feel like guys are always trying to get something out of me. So when I'm wallet raping some guy it not only gives me a rush but I feel like I'm giving it back to the male population. I get a "haha fuck you" feeling. Maybe it's just me. I hear you on that. I feel like I've been creeped on by older men all my life. Now that I'm 30, I feel like it's finally my turn to be the creepy bastard and toy with people. I love it when I can scare/shock/gross out a man (or man-child). I'd be reticent to take money from a man because I've been propositioned by men in the past and I hate the idea of some jack ass thinking he owns me because he sent me a few bucks. That being said, IDGAF if someone else likes to do it, because it's not my business.

evesgrden -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/25/2013 9:49:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali I've noticed the same thing that people think fin dommes are just rolling in the dough while sitting around all day. I have a job, in fact I have two. To me, financial domination isn't solely about the money. I personally enjoy it on a more psychological level and it's an outlet for me. I've been to therapists because I have a bit of an *anger issue* with men. Not all men, but some. I was an early bloomer as some people call it and have been dealing with being oogled and what not since I was about 13. Almost every male friend I've had has tried to sleep with me, most guys who talk to me or help with anything have tried to sleep with me. I'm not trying to toot my own horn because I find it to be utterly obnoxious. So I think I just became a bitch to most straight guys to compensate. It some ways I guess it makes me feel superior to men. But I feel like guys are always trying to get something out of me. So when I'm wallet *raping some guy* it not only gives me a rush but I feel like I'm giving it back to the male population. I get a "haha fuck you" feeling. Maybe it's just me. This is no more about greed for you than a man raping a woman is about sex. So no it's not just you. To your credit at least you get consent and your victim/mark can leave at any time. And for $400.00 the answer is: Sadism and malice that comes from a place of revenge and resentment. "What should a newbie watch out for in a dominant Alex?"

JeffBC -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/25/2013 1:16:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden I don't see dominance, femdom or maledom, to be a form of sexuality. I see it as a hierarchy that may or may not involve kink. And for what it's worth, kink is becoming quite mainstream with or without the d/s dynamic. People will pay to be topped or to bottom. Onlilne or in person, with or without orgasms. There are as many ways of doing this as there are people doing it. I'm afraid if you want certain ways excluded, you'll need to host your own website where you can make the rules and define d/s as you see fit. Yay for your entire post.

ThePrincessKali -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/25/2013 2:48:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden This is no more about greed for you than a man raping a woman is about sex. So no it's not just you. To your credit at least you get consent and your victim/mark can leave at any time. And for $400.00 the answer is: Sadism and malice that comes from a place of revenge and resentment. "What should a newbie watch out for in a dominant Alex?" That's an interesting perspective as I've never considered myself a sadist. Everything I do is 100% consensual so I wouldn't exactly conpare it to a man raping a women. I guess the term wallet rape doesn't really make sense. I think that phrase just gets guys who are into findom off. Because any form of rape is not consensual so I should of picked a better term. When a man empties out his wallet to me would of been more appropriate. I consider it to be a healthy outlet for me. I've always been spoiled even as a child and had a bit of an entitled nature so it brings two things together for me that I enjoy.

evesgrden -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/25/2013 3:13:52 PM)
quote: That's an interesting perspective as I've never considered myself a sadist. Everything I do is 100% consensual so I wouldn't exactly conpare it to a man raping a women. I guess the term wallet rape doesn't really make sense. I think that phrase just gets guys who are into findom off. Because any form of rape is not consensual so I should of picked a better term. When a man empties out his wallet to me would of been more appropriate. I consider it to be a healthy outlet for me. I've always been spoiled even as a child and had a bit of an entitled nature so it brings two things together for me that I enjoy. I don't have a problem with you using the word raping in the context you did. I think it was an appropriate metaphor for the way you feel. :::haha fuck you,:: LLLgiving it back to the male population:::: This is about callously taking, and wanting the other to feel taken and not in a good way I'm certainly not trying to compare what you do to a rapist, nor is the result comparable in any respect. But sadly the thought process, the vindictiveness, the sense of being justified in taking and that they deserve it, unfortunately that's from a very dark place. On one hand what you're doing could be considered a pseudo coping skill, it's cathartic for you and the participants are willing and can come and go as they please. On the other hand Audrey II comes to mind and I have to wonder if this isn't insatiable ultimately. The more you feed it the more you need it. But I can't see how this could possibly leave you open to finding a partner for whom you will really care and who will feel likewise about you... who will want you for who you are, and the delectable package is a perk. Rather presumptuous of me because you didn't say anything of wanting that in your life.

MarcEsadrian -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/25/2013 7:02:18 PM)
For a portrait of a spoof account: look at the OP. Not a single discernible photo on her profile and the one link provided, among a host of emails for you to write to, goes 404 on Niteflirt. As for the tired subject of financial domination, it's a fetish for some, and I think that's been well established by now in that other thread. My only contention comes in with those who see it as a quick way to make some easy cash. They'll eventually find out that it's not as easy as they thought. So in that respect, all parties walk away disappointed, in the end.

ThePrincessKali -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/25/2013 7:10:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden quote: That's an interesting perspective as I've never considered myself a sadist. Everything I do is 100% consensual so I wouldn't exactly conpare it to a man raping a women. I guess the term wallet rape doesn't really make sense. I think that phrase just gets guys who are into findom off. Because any form of rape is not consensual so I should of picked a better term. When a man empties out his wallet to me would of been more appropriate. I consider it to be a healthy outlet for me. I've always been spoiled even as a child and had a bit of an entitled nature so it brings two things together for me that I enjoy. I don't have a problem with you using the word raping in the context you did. I think it was an appropriate metaphor for the way you feel. :::haha fuck you,:: LLLgiving it back to the male population:::: This is about callously taking, and wanting the other to feel taken and not in a good way I'm certainly not trying to compare what you do to a rapist, nor is the result comparable in any respect. But sadly the thought process, the vindictiveness, the sense of being justified in taking and that they deserve it, unfortunately that's from a very dark place. On one hand what you're doing could be considered a pseudo coping skill, it's cathartic for you and the participants are willing and can come and go as they please. On the other hand Audrey II comes to mind and I have to wonder if this isn't insatiable ultimately. The more you feed it the more you need it. But I can't see how this could possibly leave you open to finding a partner for whom you will really care and who will feel likewise about you... who will want you for who you are, and the delectable package is a perk. Rather presumptuous of me because you didn't say anything of wanting that in your life. I not only find it presumptuous but I find it offensive to assume that I won't be able to find a partner. I never said that I have romantic or sexual relationships with my subs, I don't. My dating life is completely separate. I have healthy relationships. Would you tell a guy who boxes who might have some anger issues that he can't function normally if that's his outlet?

evesgrden -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/25/2013 10:04:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden I don't have a problem with you using the word raping in the context you did. I think it was an appropriate metaphor for the way you feel. :::haha fuck you,:: LLLgiving it back to the male population:::: This is about callously taking, and wanting the other to feel taken and not in a good way I'm certainly not trying to compare what you do to a rapist, nor is the result comparable in any respect. But sadly the thought process, the vindictiveness, the sense of being justified in taking and that they deserve it, unfortunately that's from a very dark place.On one hand what you're doing could be considered a pseudo coping skill, it's cathartic for you and the participants are willing and can come and go as they please. On the other hand Audrey II comes to mind and I have to wonder if this isn't insatiable ultimately. The more you feed it the more you need it. But I can't see how this could possibly leave you open to finding a partner for whom you will really care and who will feel likewise about you... who will want you for who you are, and the delectable package is a perk. Rather presumptuous of me because you didn't say anything of wanting that in your life. I not only find it presumptuous but I find it offensive to assume that I won't be able to find a partner. I never said that I have romantic or sexual relationships with my subs, I don't. My dating life is completely separate. I have healthy relationships. Would you tell a guy who boxes who might have some anger issues that he can't function normally if that's his outlet? It never occurred to me that you would have a romantic relationship with your clients and I didn't say you couldn't function normally. You said you became a bitch to compensate, you get a rush from getting back at men.. and please re-read what I said.. it's in bold this time. To answer your question about whether I would say something similar to a boxer; to Sugar Ray Leonard, no. To Mike Tyson, yes. Sugar Ray was in it because he was good at boxing and liked it. Tyson ultimately found that while it was a release for him, the anger was always there. Boxing was an outlet, but it wasn't enough because he didn't come to terms with the cause of the problem. Aggression was a fix for his anger and until he treated the anger it spilled over into other relationships. Supposedly he's taken care of that. I started treating aggression and anger over 30 years ago. Context is everything and the context you provided raised my antennae big time. You say you have a healthy relationship... congrats. I'm surprised given the things you've said, but that's why I say things like "on one hand". I've been surprised plenty of times over the years and I'm sure this time won't be the last.

TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/26/2013 5:24:37 AM)
wonders if anyone else understood the Audrey 2 reference

darkmatter24 -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/26/2013 7:03:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali I've noticed the same thing that people think fin dommes are just rolling in the dough while sitting around all day. I have a job, in fact I have two. To me, financial domination isn't solely about the money. I personally enjoy it on a more psychological level and it's an outlet for me. It doesn't matter whether it makes you rich or not. Somebody who robs a bank and comes away with $20 is still a bank robber - just not a very good one. And even if you enjoy bank robbing as a therapeutic measure doesn't make it right either. quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali I've been to therapists because I have a bit of an anger issue with men. Not all men, but some. I was an early bloomer as some people call it and have been dealing with being oogled and what not since I was about 13. Almost every male friend I've had has tried to sleep with me, most guys who talk to me or help with anything have tried to sleep with me. What does that have to do with anything? Men will try to sleep with women, that's a fact of life. quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali I'm not trying to toot my own horn because I find it to be utterly obnoxious. So I think I just became a bitch to most straight guys to compensate. It some ways I guess it makes me feel superior to men. But I feel like guys are always trying to get something out of me. So when I'm wallet raping some guy it not only gives me a rush but I feel like I'm giving it back to the male population. I get a "haha fuck you" feeling. Maybe it's just me. So it's basically a way to cope with your personality and anger issues. All the more evidence to establish "financial domination" as something that shouldn't exist in the kink realm.

RedMagic1 -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/26/2013 9:31:55 AM)
Hey, PrincessKali, I found your post vulnerable and honest, and I was glad to read it. It took some guts to post, and I recognize that. Just so you know, at least one person found what you said to be valuable. FWIW, evesgarden has a history of being sensible. (No one's right all the time, of course.) darkmatter, not so much.

MarcEsadrian -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/26/2013 11:16:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden This is no more about greed for you than a man raping a woman is about sex. A man raping a woman is not about sex? I wasn't aware of that.

Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/26/2013 11:57:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden This is no more about greed for you than a man raping a woman is about sex. A man raping a woman is not about sex? I wasn't aware of that. I am certain you are smarter than that ^

ThePrincessKali -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/26/2013 1:00:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darkmatter24 quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali I've noticed the same thing that people think fin dommes are just rolling in the dough while sitting around all day. I have a job, in fact I have two. To me, financial domination isn't solely about the money. I personally enjoy it on a more psychological level and it's an outlet for me. It doesn't matter whether it makes you rich or not. Somebody who robs a bank and comes away with $20 is still a bank robber - just not a very good one. And even if you enjoy bank robbing as a therapeutic measure doesn't make it right either. quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali I've been to therapists because I have a bit of an anger issue with men. Not all men, but some. I was an early bloomer as some people call it and have been dealing with being oogled and what not since I was about 13. Almost every male friend I've had has tried to sleep with me, most guys who talk to me or help with anything have tried to sleep with me. What does that have to do with anything? Men will try to sleep with women, that's a fact of life. quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali I'm not trying to toot my own horn because I find it to be utterly obnoxious. So I think I just became a bitch to most straight guys to compensate. It some ways I guess it makes me feel superior to men. But I feel like guys are always trying to get something out of me. So when I'm wallet raping some guy it not only gives me a rush but I feel like I'm giving it back to the male population. I get a "haha fuck you" feeling. Maybe it's just me. So it's basically a way to cope with your personality and anger issues. All the more evidence to establish "financial domination" as something that shouldn't exist in the kink realm. Fin dommes are not bank robbers. We don't steal from anyone. It is completely consensual on both ends. And if something bothers you then don't partake. As long as it isn't hurting anyone why do you care? I've found the views on financial domination on this site to a lot of times remind me of the fight for gay people to have the right to marry. If you don't like it, then don't do it but how does someone else's actions affect you? There are plenty of fetishes that I don't like but I simply choose to not partake in them. If it makes someone else happy then more power to you.

ThePrincessKali -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/26/2013 1:06:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden I don't have a problem with you using the word raping in the context you did. I think it was an appropriate metaphor for the way you feel. :::haha fuck you,:: LLLgiving it back to the male population:::: This is about callously taking, and wanting the other to feel taken and not in a good way I'm certainly not trying to compare what you do to a rapist, nor is the result comparable in any respect. But sadly the thought process, the vindictiveness, the sense of being justified in taking and that they deserve it, unfortunately that's from a very dark place.On one hand what you're doing could be considered a pseudo coping skill, it's cathartic for you and the participants are willing and can come and go as they please. On the other hand Audrey II comes to mind and I have to wonder if this isn't insatiable ultimately. The more you feed it the more you need it. But I can't see how this could possibly leave you open to finding a partner for whom you will really care and who will feel likewise about you... who will want you for who you are, and the delectable package is a perk. Rather presumptuous of me because you didn't say anything of wanting that in your life. I not only find it presumptuous but I find it offensive to assume that I won't be able to find a partner. I never said that I have romantic or sexual relationships with my subs, I don't. My dating life is completely separate. I have healthy relationships. Would you tell a guy who boxes who might have some anger issues that he can't function normally if that's his outlet? It never occurred to me that you would have a romantic relationship with your clients and I didn't say you couldn't function normally. You said you became a bitch to compensate, you get a rush from getting back at men.. and please re-read what I said.. it's in bold this time. To answer your question about whether I would say something similar to a boxer; to Sugar Ray Leonard, no. To Mike Tyson, yes. Sugar Ray was in it because he was good at boxing and liked it. Tyson ultimately found that while it was a release for him, the anger was always there. Boxing was an outlet, but it wasn't enough because he didn't come to terms with the cause of the problem. Aggression was a fix for his anger and until he treated the anger it spilled over into other relationships. Supposedly he's taken care of that. I started treating aggression and anger over 30 years ago. Context is everything and the context you provided raised my antennae big time. You say you have a healthy relationship... congrats. I'm surprised given the things you've said, but that's why I say things like "on one hand". I've been surprised plenty of times over the years and I'm sure this time won't be the last. I appreciate your input and concern but I do have healthy relationships. They are unrelated to me being a fin domme. If I am in a serious relationship I disclose that I am a fin domme and explain what it entails and every boyfriend I've had since starting fin dom hasn't had a problem with it. None have wanted to partake but they were ok with it. I do see a therapist because I know I have some mild anger issues but it's not anything that impedes me from leading a happy and healthy lifestyle. And when I say "anger issues" I don't mean I get mad and punch things or lash out at people. I guess it's more frustration than anything. But like I said thanks for your input it is something I will think about.

MarcEsadrian -> RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? (11/26/2013 1:42:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2 quote: ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden This is no more about greed for you than a man raping a woman is about sex. A man raping a woman is not about sex? I wasn't aware of that. I am certain you are smarter than that ^ Apparently, I'm not. Please explain.

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