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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 5:53:34 AM

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2. I detest anyone (male or female) who tries to exploit submissive males for their money. They are easy targets and I think it's the lowest element of the human race that does this.

Really? I save my detestation for those who try to prey on the elderly for money.

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I don't even care about these bullshit "financial dommes," I've only asked that they be kept separate, and that all the women seeking to profit from the lonliness of submissive males be kept separate as far as profiles on CM.

When I was looking, I screened out married cheaters, which is a lot more difficult than screening out a Fin Domme. Consider yourself lucky.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 6:32:58 AM

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It was a protest against what women were expected to endure for the sake of being the pretty little wife without rights or value beyond being Suzie Homemaker. It wasn't much of a fire (in a trash can along with girdles and high-heeled shoes) but it made major headlines and drew attention to the cause.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 7:44:59 AM

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I think its just another form of prostitution. Why? Their paying money to get sexual satisfaction. I already know, there will be ppl saying you can to get a massage is that the same? Well no, you get a massage to because it makes your muscles and bones feel good. It gets rid of nagging little pains.

You pay a domme to give you that fantasy hit for sexual release.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 7:48:47 AM

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I get sexual satisfaction from cooking my man dinner. So, if he pays for the groceries, am I a prostitute?

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 7:51:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I get sexual satisfaction from cooking my man dinner. So, if he pays for the groceries, am I a prostitute?

Yes and you can come whore yourself out at my house any night of the week.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 7:53:48 AM

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Let me know when you've relocated to the Boston area and I'm there!

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 7:55:41 AM

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My man gets sexual satisfaction when I wear stockings, garters, and very high heels. Because he pays for these, am I a prostitute?

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 7:57:08 AM

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I am glad that fin dommes exist.
They have a useful purpose in supplying the type of men I'm not interested in with things I won't give them.
Sarcasm not intended here.
There's a lot of good that bats do, they eat mosquitos.
If fin dommes can make money off of their marks then more power to them.

Thanks for weeding out the garden.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 7:58:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

And, no, it's not similar to "being gay". If anything, it's closer to the concept of being hetero-flexible. Meaning that it's a *want* and not a *need*.

I absolutely disagree with that. Kink is very much my sexual orientation for me. It's a need, not a want, and not something I can go without.

I can physically go through the motions of vanilla sex, but it does nothing to turn me on or satisfy me. It doesn't even feel like sex to me, anymore than giving somebody a massage feels like sex.

Without kink, I have no sexuality, which means that it's spot on in being a sexual orientation for me.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 9:25:18 AM

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The words that are being used to describe financial domination are way too dramatic.

People are using words like exploited, exploitation, destructive, prostitution, etc.

To the people who are complaining about financial domination, why does it not register with you that this involves grown men and women who are seeking each other out? If you are not into something, stay out of it.

Putting a negative spin on something you are not into, smacks of something much deeper within you.

I am amazed at how many threads there are about this topic. I would never call any of this exploitation if both parties make the voluntary choice to engage in whatever they are engaging in.

Exploitation is when someone is unwilling or unable to participate or being forced into something. If you are unclear on any aspect of participating in something financial, be it sexually based or not, make sure you understand what your expectations are and what you will receive.

Human trafficking is exploitation, not fin dommes or prostitution for that matter.

Perspective, people.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 9:49:38 AM

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I don't want to start yet another thread but I would be interested to know, on average, how much does a dedicated fin Domme make? Is it lucrative or is it frustratingly difficult not to repeatedly get scammed? I was looking at a thread on FL and the Fin Dommes were bemoaning about making nothing and warning others about all the tricksters (sub men who made endless promises but never fulfilled them.)

I get the impression, especially when I see young girls on here in frilly knickers, sticking one finger up at the camera and a picture of mum and dad in the background, that these girls have jumped on an empty band wagon. Looks alone won't get them the financial men they desire. Many of the most successful pro Dommes and Fin Dommes are in their 30s and 40s but they are artists of their trade.

I have seen a few financial Dommes on here with impressive profiles and even dedicated websites but not many.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 10:11:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
I absolutely disagree with that. Kink is very much my sexual orientation for me. It's a need, not a want, and not something I can go without.

I can physically go through the motions of vanilla sex, but it does nothing to turn me on or satisfy me. It doesn't even feel like sex to me, anymore than giving somebody a massage feels like sex.

Without kink, I have no sexuality, which means that it's spot on in being a sexual orientation for me.

Thank you for the catch, Ishtar. I missed the "for everybody" part of that statement. For some people, it is a need, but for some of us, it really only is a want or a preference. For those of us that it is just an option, it's really hard to compare it to gay or straight. Since it's a take it or leave it thing for people like Me, it's something that some can walk away from, rather than consider it a sexual orientation.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 12:04:34 PM

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Maria, I actually do quite well. So do my subs. I've saved one or two from ruin, especially how they were spending.
I do not have a website however. Never needed one. The subs I have had over the years have provided me with custom made clothing, dungeon furniture, expensive gifts, etc. and that not even talking about the money part. Some of these subs, I've never met. Not bc we didn't want to. But distance might have played a factor in that.

Sexyred, I agree with everything you've said on this.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 12:14:31 PM

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I'm gonna set down my popcorn here and make an observation. I think the real problem of the guys who start these Fin-Domme threads is jealousy. A lot of these guys seem to be coming from a less-that-stellar financial position, and it pisses them off when they see the profiles of some hot woman with the CFM pics making all these demands, and the perception that there are guys out there who have the disposable income to indulge in this kink, while they don't.

They don't really care about the community at large when they say it's "abuse" or "prostitution", because if they had the chance, they'd be all over it in a heartbeat. The real issue is they can't swing with the big dogs who can play these games, and they're jealous of both parties. Even if it's a bust for the "finducks" and a game for the fin-subs, the whiners seem to think there's an element of fairness they're missing out on here.

In short, they want a piece of the action without having to earn it the way the ones who do get to play have. I'll note that I regard myself as an impartial observer to this particular kink, but that's what I think is going on here.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 12:56:57 PM

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I get the impression, especially when I see young girls on here in frilly knickers, sticking one finger up at the camera and a picture of mum and dad in the background, that these girls have jumped on an empty band wagon.

I ran across one whose profile pic background was her pink Hello Kitty decorated bedroom with her holding up a Hello Kitty notebook that said "I AM YOUR GODDESS".

I suppose that too may appeal to SOME types.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 12:57:42 PM

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I get sexual satisfaction from cooking my man dinner. So, if he pays for the groceries, am I a prostitute?

This statement shows either a joke, which isn't to be taken at all seriously, or a total disregard of the law as shown in the articles.

Assuming the statement was actually made with a straight face, based on California law, that this is clearly NOT prostitution, and nobody would think it so, given:
1. The money was for groceries, not just for sex
2. Someone was sexually gratified but the money wasn't for that purpose
3. Touching of the breasts buttocks or genitals was probably not involved

What scares me, if the examples provided by some of those saying fin domming isn't prostitution is that those promoting that are fundamentally devoid of basic reading comprehension.

For example, the argument keeps coming up about the web cam, but, clearly the California law says contact must occur. (Note that in other states, contact doesn't have to occur, so, it does depend on locale).

The point is that most of those defending findomme seem to be incapable of reading comprehension, either on purpose or by ignorance.

BTW, If they were joking, then my serious reply above doesn't hold - it would just mean that I didn't get the joke (which would be my fault).

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 1:05:20 PM

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My man gets sexual satisfaction when I wear stockings, garters, and very high heels. Because he pays for these, am I a prostitute?

How can you totally repeatedly miss the point that he has to pay for the sex, not for the stockings?

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 1:12:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1
Human trafficking is exploitation, not fin dommes or prostitution for that matter.Perspective, people.

My perspective is that "contact" fin domme _is_ prostitution, so they're the same thing. But, who cares except the law? Most people don't care. Otherwise prostitution wouldn't have the long history that it has. I'm sure fin domme has had just as long a history throughout the ages and civilizations. It simply points to man's needs being greater than the supply available to him. Nothing more or less than that.

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 1:15:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: Agent99

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My man gets sexual satisfaction when I wear stockings, garters, and very high heels. Because he pays for these, am I a prostitute?

How can you totally repeatedly miss the point that he has to pay for the sex, not for the stockings?

How can you totally, repeatedly, miss the point that fin dommes don't usually have sex with their clients but are still being called prostitutes?

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RE: Financial Domination / What are your thoughts & Why ? - 7/28/2013 1:16:44 PM

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How can you and others totally miss the point that WE don't fuck for money?
(Ha! Ya beat me to it!)

Now when I say we I'm referring to myself and probably a good number of the women on here that I talk to.
How is online touching? Even in real time, there's no fucking! If you consider my whip tail slashing my subs back and balls to be prostitution, then that makes you the fool. (Generalization of the word you)

< Message edited by TNDommeK -- 7/28/2013 1:17:45 PM >

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