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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 12/30/2013 10:55:15 AM   
rickmikes


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I agree with all of the responses that indicate he has no right to involve/force others outside of the life into this dynamic by requiring you to OUT yourself.

One of the sections in the D/s agreement I use states:
7. The Dominant shall not require the submissive to perform any action which could result in the submissives loss of employment, loss of family/friends, death, permanent loss of a body part or function, disfigurement, or incarceration.

No responsible Dom would require you do (or do it to you) anything that would risk your employment or personal relationships (friends or family).

My suggestion is to either talk this out or to walk out. DO NOT ACQUIESCE TO THE "order".

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 12/30/2013 3:47:08 PM   
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I missed this thread the first time it went around, but I just took a look. This is what I see. The OP started by asking a self-elevating question, and got supportive responses. Then, it came out, that it wasn't the dom's idea to include her friends ad co-workers in her sex life: it was the OP's idea, and she'd been doing this since before meeting the dom. So his reaction looks to me like, "I don't understand. You'll go on to your friends at length about how I perform in bed, but you won't mention the one thing that is most important to me emotionally."

Honestly, this looks like a problem created by both parties, and I don't see the dom as some big bad villain. In case the OP ever comes back to this thread, my advice to her is: Stop running public commentary on your sex life. That's the kind of thing that makes men feel judged and inadequate.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 12/30/2013 8:12:04 PM   
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I've known my Dom for over 2 years. We've been living together now for 7 months. Most of my family is really straight, with them my sex life is not open for discussion. My dad sorta, kinda knows I have a submissive personality, but not to what extent. No need for him to know that either. His sister is a whole nother ballgame, there's absolutely nothing I can't talk to her about. She's actually curious about things and asks intelligent questions.

I consider myself very lucky to have found the Man I did. He's loving, respectful, makes me feel safe & protected. We're going through a rough time right now, he's hospitalized, his mom is in very poor health. We're getting through it together since we want this to work & we love each other. We realize we've been given a 2nd chance, we're going to make it work because that's what we want. To be together, thick & thin, good & bad.

I was 41 when I found out I was *a* submissive. Almost another 10 years to find the right Dominant. A whole lot of bad choices on my part. I had to find my own self esteem before I could become the submissive I wanted to be, knew I could be. I was dealing with some serious personal issues that needed to be resolved. This is my story, there's many others.

Don't give up. Learn from this and move on. May you find the Dom of your dreams no matter when. Yanno....ya have to kiss a lot of frogs...


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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 12/30/2013 8:33:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Theredmusiclover

Yes but to OTHER people it is a kink. That's the difference. It makes people uncomfortable that don't understand.


It's about compatibility. Find a dom who believes keeping his identity secret is important, then there is no conflict. My x-dom would have died if I ever told anybody he was my dom. He always wanted to be seen a perfect vanilla man in public and among my friends and his friends and family. But behind doors, his a total bastard, in a good way which excites me ha.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 12/30/2013 9:10:44 PM   
Greta75


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gauge

quote:

ORIGINAL: Theredmusiclover

Im new, have my first Dom. Things have been going really good. I asked him last night for a new rule. Something to move us forward a bit more. Today he told me my new rule. A little back story... No one knows who he is to me except my mentor on here. My loved ones have judged me in the past when i told them of my need to submit. Even my best friend doesn't know he's my Dom. My rule is to refer to him as daddy to her and to tell who why when she asks. He also considered me telling my coworkers too because we talk about sex and our personal lives. Honestly im stunned about this rule. This will put a strain on my friendship because she will judge it and talk bad about it. Plus it feels like its forcing it down her throat. I honestly am really angry about this rule. To meddle in my relationship with others i think is wrong. He's my Dom but he doesn't have full control over my life and we've only been seeing each other about a month. Maybe im being a drama queen or something but honestly i just lost a lot of trust and respect for him. He knows i don't talk to anyone aabout being a sub because i don't feel like i can. When i have in the past i was judged for it. For him to try and force me to do it honestly makes me want to cry. It was hard enough last go around when i wasn't even a sub just thought i had sub tendencies.


Submitted for your approval:

The first lesson here is never to ask a dumb question like you asked. Please take that constructively because that is the mode in which it is offered. You asked for a new rule and this person gave it to you and you didn't like it and it has now caused problems. Let's put aside for the moment that it was a horrible rule to give you. You are not to blame for the result but you did ask the question. Now with that said let's examine the ridiculous rule you were given.

One thing that hit me from your post is that you need to be comfortable with what and who you are. If you need to submit and you are a submissive then there is nothing to be ashamed of and be damned anyone that doesn't like that about you. Who gives a shit about what someone else thinks when you are comfortable with who you are? So, please get comfortable with your need to submit. Now, if your friends and family do not understand this about you, that is fine, there is no need to try to convince them otherwise, let them believe what they want... because they will anyway no matter what you do.

What this "Dominant" said to you was absolutely out of line. You would no more march into a crowded building and shout at the top of your voice that you are into bondage and need to submit than you would go into your job and do the same thing. Your "Dominant" has insecurities that are fairly glaring as evidenced from his "rule" and from his reaction to you after you said you hated the rule. "You should be proud you have a daddy dominant so go scream it from the rooftops!" Yeah well, you should be proud to have a Dominant but seeing as you don't go around yelling to perfect strangers that you are a submissive, no one else really has to know about it, do they? I mean it only serves to humiliate you and potentially damage your current or possibly future employment, right? It could divide your friends and family, right? Most of all it has hurt you deeply... right? What this Dominant is trying to do is stroke his own ego at your expense and not giving a shit about the fallout it will cause for you... that is not a dominant, that is an idiot.

I learned a tough lesson a long time ago and I am not ashamed to admit it here because it serves as an example of something that hurt someone but at the same time it also allowed my relationship with my slave to grow. One evening I got the bright idea that I was going to try out some humiliation on my slave so, something came up and I began to berate her and I called her worthless. She got quiet and began to shiver and she ran into the bedroom crying. I had no clue what had just happened until I asked her what was wrong. Here I came to find out that she actually did feel worthless from years of mental abuse and I struck a nerve with her. God did I feel about an inch tall and felt like a world class heel. It took time for me to explain to her that I didn't view her as worthless but that I was trying my hand at "humiliation" but here is the kicker, we never discussed it before I tried it. I was all about being a dominant and I didn't think to discuss my desires with my slave. I sound like an asshole, right? Well, I am not. I care deeply for people in general, I care that much more for those that I love and I felt like shit for hurting her. I learned a valuable lesson that evening and I now will take my time and talk about things with my next slave/submissive that trusts me enough to call me Sir. Please don't judge me too harshly because I made a mistake and it was a hard one to learn from, but I did learn from it.

My point is that I didn't get all bent out of shape when I realized that I had hurt someone I cared about. I took steps to make it right. I also was humble enough to realize I had fucked up and I vowed to never do it again. Your "Dominant" just cares about his ego and he is butthurt because you aren't "proud" of him. Well, he hasn't earned that pride from you, nor should he until he makes it right. The fact that he has not cared enough to realize he made you feel like shit and thinks you are either being unreasonable or disobedient means that he doesn't care about you, just himself and how he looks. He needs a lesson and you are in a position to teach it to him. Tell him that you both need to talk about something very serious and the result of that talk will determine if he will remain in charge of you or not. If he can't handle that then he has told you everything that you need to know about your future with him and you should move along and find someone that will treat you with care and love.

I wish you luck. Please let us know how it turns out for you. You deserve to be happy.


I wish there was a "Like" button, because I wanted to "Like" this a thousand times! I'm so glad you shared Gauge, I thought the way you handled your situation with your sub was with so much honour and authentic domliness ha.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 12/31/2013 10:50:15 AM   
kiwisub12


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OP - beware of what you ask for...................................................

and one of the things my late Sir reassured me about at the beginning of our relationship (my first bdsm) was that he would never do anything that would affect my kids, my family or my job. Basically a really good plan for every relationship, regardless of orientation or proclivities.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 12/31/2013 7:02:27 PM   
DesFIP


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It's a necro thread, dating from over three months ago.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 1/25/2014 2:42:45 AM   
DeineSKlavin


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Re-think this before staying with Him. Herrchen and I are somewhat private. At home, we are M/s. With like minded people, it is the same provided we get to know them. In the vanilla world, we appear to be vanilla people. There are certain looks, and tones, that are used to convey a message within the message the rest of the world hears. This works for us; it may not for others. Good luck.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 1/25/2014 6:07:53 AM   
Blueswordsman


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Theredmusiclover

Im new, have my first Dom. Things have been going really good. I asked him last night for a new rule. Something to move us forward a bit more. Today he told me my new rule. A little back story... No one knows who he is to me except my mentor on here. My loved ones have judged me in the past when i told them of my need to submit. Even my best friend doesn't know he's my Dom. My rule is to refer to him as daddy to her and to tell who why when she asks. He also considered me telling my coworkers too because we talk about sex and our personal lives. Honestly im stunned about this rule. This will put a strain on my friendship because she will judge it and talk bad about it. Plus it feels like its forcing it down her throat. I honestly am really angry about this rule. To meddle in my relationship with others i think is wrong. He's my Dom but he doesn't have full control over my life and we've only been seeing each other about a month. Maybe im being a drama queen or something but honestly i just lost a lot of trust and respect for him. He knows i don't talk to anyone aabout being a sub because i don't feel like i can. When i have in the past i was judged for it. For him to try and force me to do it honestly makes me want to cry. It was hard enough last go around when i wasn't even a sub just thought i had sub tendencies.

I always believed the best way to bring a sub to a new level is to offer difficult choices and tasks with equally difficult consequences if not preformed.

I recommend you offer your Dom something equally or more difficult you know he would prefer to you outing yourself. It will give you the step up you crave, him something he really wants plus the future option of outing.


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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 1/25/2014 6:37:29 AM   
LittleGirlHeart


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My original thought was dumbasses, the both of you. But I'm amending that to yeah, tea is of nothing but pure fantasy, n so not wise, responsible or smart.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 1/25/2014 5:09:20 PM   
LeatherBentOne51


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quote:

ORIGINAL: getoutnow

Just because he is a Dom, doesn't mean he isn't an idiot.

If you are not comfortable outing yourself, then don't do it. Simple as.

Jeeze, what is it with these people who think having a kinky relationship means common sense goes out of the window?

You've only been seeing him for a month. Tell him to STFU, that if he pushes you more tell him you are done. He obviously doesn't respect or care about you, let alone your boundaries.

Remember, a lot of the Doms out there, could careless about subs. I'm sure this clown couldnt Dom his way out of a paper bag.





Well said. My sentiments exactly

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 2/10/2014 7:37:27 PM   
Darkhaven80


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I wouldn't be comfortable at all with this. I could never tell people I work with this, it's a respected business that works with children and the community and they are strict about background checks. I'm not saying anything about the lifestyle is against that, it's not, but people can be narrow minded about that kind of thing and have misconceptions. I'd also never tell my parents, my mother's reaction would be embarrassing. My friends wouldn't get it much either.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 2/16/2014 7:00:32 PM   
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That's the beauty of being a submissive and not a slave. We can say no. He sounds like a dick and not a good fit. Its important to communicate & its his job as a dominant to provide you with a stable relationship and that goes for mind body and soul. Is he a Daddy or a dominate? This day and age its different. He sounds very inexperienced for a legitimate Master. My teachings came from Master Joe & his slave Debra of Melbourne. You should check out her website. Losing your trust is a very big deal and don't be stupid. Its your safety & your life to. Tell him to get a slave if he cant handle a sub. Know the difference between a true dom & a man with control issues.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 2/16/2014 7:21:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PrettyLittleSub1

That's the beauty of being a submissive and not a slave. We can say no.


So can a slave.


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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 2/17/2014 7:14:34 AM   
PrettyLittleSub1


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Slaves have safe words. Things are different in Australia. American/Canadians have a whole new meaning to slaves & subs.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 2/17/2014 7:53:13 AM   
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Didn't read the other replies, but doing this stuff we do should make you feel better, not worse. End of.

In our deal, we do enjoy a light sprinkling of "because I say so", but even that should have some rational-emotive basis that furthers the relationship.

I'm not seeing how his request does anything for the two of you other than puffing up his ego. Maybe the subject for another thread, but I think a Dom should be pretty egoless on average to facilitate the transference of the submissive partner's giving over to him. His ego seems very crowded and up his own ass to the point of being detrimental to you both.

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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 2/17/2014 7:55:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PrettyLittleSub1

Slaves have safe words. Things are different in Australia. American/Canadians have a whole new meaning to slaves & subs.

It's no different in Oz.
If you think it is then you need to start learning things.
It sounds like you have been brainwashed into one line of thinking.

Both slaves and subs can have safe words for anything if they so choose.
It's not exclusively a slave thing.


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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 2/17/2014 9:36:37 AM   
OsideGirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: PrettyLittleSub1

Slaves have safe words. Things are different in Australia. American/Canadians have a whole new meaning to slaves & subs.


So, what you're saying is that slaves in Australia would not speak up against something that is morally wrong because they're slaves. Or that they wouldn't have enough sense to speak up when the controlling partner wants something that could effect their employment for the rest of their life.

Just because someone is a "slave" does not mean that they lack a moral compass and are stupid enough to tolerate bad decision making simply because they have labeled themselves a slave. They have the right to protect themselves. Period. Regardless of what country they live in.




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RE: forcing me to out myself... please need some input - 2/17/2014 9:45:40 AM   
Domnotlooking


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I had kinky sex with 4 different women in Australia and found it no diff. from having kinky sex in America.

Although that accent is def. a dick softener. I envy people who can't tell the diff. between an aussie accent and a brit one. Throw another shrimp on the barbie is the posh version.

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