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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Hehehehe

How about a school where girls are taught to read?

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Sharia law does NOT trump the US Constitution.

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Richard II of england married his bride who six...in 1396
, Catholic wedding

My tolerance for stupid, is getting less and less

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Richard II of england married his bride who six...in 1396
, Catholic wedding

My tolerance for stupid, is getting less and less

So is mine.

There were nothing but Catholics in Western Europe (or in any case England) at the time of Richard II. But the Protestants, who didn't exist at the time nor the next ~ 120 years yet would never have done such a thing, you would have us to understand. Got it. Please post where I said anything of the kind...read what I said and not what you want to think I said


Aside from that, 'marrying' at an early age was common at that and even later times among royalty, as part of agreements made as settlement to current wars or in effort to avoid future hostilities, or for land/realm grabbing by inheritance. The marriages were not meant to be consummated until appropriate age, which nevertheless was a bit younger then as it is now considered to be.

Henry VII's mother was 14 when she delivered him. Oh, I forgot ... that's all on the Catholics.LMNAO, its monday I understand the lack of comprehension, but my whole point was that paedophilia as we understand it to be now in the 21st century, ( as mentioned in an earlier post by another poster) was "acceptable" in the 1300s, and not just in islam, but catholicism too... for whatever reasons as you pointed out, I believe I even said, political /alliances etc etc in this post http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4520016 but you go on with your bad ignorant self

OK, so when do the ex parte and ex post facto reparations from the Catholics to the Anglicans start here, and where do you want the checks sent to?
Setting fire to your strawman for not having a brain

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I see your point, and would love to see there be less resistance to any new house of worship that rests mostly on the religion to be practiced therein.

Call me naive, but I have never heard of similar resistance to any other sect's desire to build a church.

I have never heard of any resistance other than to Islam, either, but, I'm voicing my belief with no regard to any one religion. I don't care if it's a Catholic, Jewish, Islamic, Wiccan, etc. place of worship. I don't want to see the resistance to something being built based on the religion that will be practiced within.

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ORIGINAL: metamorfosis

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
I see your point, and would love to see there be less resistance to any new house of worship that rests mostly on the religion to be practiced therein.

Call me naive, but I have never heard of similar resistance to any other sect's desire to build a church.

I have never heard of any resistance other than to Islam, either, but, I'm voicing my belief with no regard to any one religion. I don't care if it's a Catholic, Jewish, Islamic, Wiccan, etc. place of worship. I don't want to see the resistance to something being built based on the religion that will be practiced within.
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They stopped a christian church from building in our area a while back. The biggest complaint was the bells. People said they didn't want to hear them ringing all the time. Now I am not sure if the neighborhood kept them out or they found a better plot to build on, but they didn't build it there.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Sharia law kills gays.

Sharia law treats woman badly.


Sharia law does NOT trump the US Constitution.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
That's not resistance due to the religion practiced, though. There was a Baptist Church that was prevented from building a huge church in my area, too. The issue wasn't that it was a Baptist church, but the location. The church already exists in the community, but wanted to grow. I think the issue had to do with traffic flow (they also run an elementary school that would also have moved). It went to a local vote and the church did not win. I didn't vote because I didn't care one way or the other, so I didn't really do my due diligence.

Still, it wasn't because it was a Baptist church.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
That's not resistance due to the religion practiced, though. There was a Baptist Church that was prevented from building a huge church in my area, too. The issue wasn't that it was a Baptist church, but the location. The church already exists in the community, but wanted to grow. I think the issue had to do with traffic flow (they also run an elementary school that would also have moved). It went to a local vote and the church did not win. I didn't vote because I didn't care one way or the other, so I didn't really do my due diligence.
Still, it wasn't because it was a Baptist church.

I admit, that's a really good point. I did some digging and found this:
www.thestar.com/news/insight/2013/05/10/antiislamic_prejudice_or_just_a_parking_issue.html
The article suggests the people of Toronto are resisting the construction of new churches because of the traffic and parking problems they cause.
"...'The truth is, places of worship have a need for a lot of parking,' said Joe D'Abramo, director of zoning and environmental planning for the city of Toronto. 'Nobody wants to provide parking, because it takes up land and costs money to put it underground. But if we don't require it, then they park on the streets and the community around it gets very upset.'... "
"...it turns out nothing riles up the neighbours like bad parking and increased traffic. Infractions or even the perception that rules could be broken have been enough to ignite tensions and divide communities..."
"...In Markham, a Taoist temple trying to build in a residential area faced heavy resistance from neighbours primarily due to fear of increased traffic and parking concerns- even though the temple said it expected attendance of 15 to 20 people at a time..."
"...And a new mosque project in Markham has divided an otherwise peaceful community with concerns that the construction of the facility would create a traffic nightmare and lead to parking chaos in a neighbouring residential area. The matter was further complicated by what the mosque called a 'typo' on it's website suggesting it could hold 1,600 people when it only had approval for 500-- and parking accomodations for such. The mosque has since decreased the planned size of its worship space and will provide 188 parking spaces..."
"...On the surface, the primary concern appears to be good planning. But there are some who question whether the zoning issues are simply a mask for underlying tension.."

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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I hope the given reason is the truth.

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Richard II of england married his bride who six...in 1396
, Catholic wedding

My tolerance for stupid, is getting less and less

So is mine.

There were nothing but Catholics in Western Europe (or in any case England) at the time of Richard II. But the Protestants, who didn't exist at the time nor the next ~ 120 years yet would never have done such a thing, you would have us to understand. Got it. Please post where I said anything of the kind...read what I said and not what you want to think I said


Aside from that, 'marrying' at an early age was common at that and even later times among royalty, as part of agreements made as settlement to current wars or in effort to avoid future hostilities, or for land/realm grabbing by inheritance. The marriages were not meant to be consummated until appropriate age, which nevertheless was a bit younger then as it is now considered to be.

Henry VII's mother was 14 when she delivered him. Oh, I forgot ... that's all on the Catholics.LMNAO, its monday I understand the lack of comprehension, but my whole point was that paedophilia as we understand it to be now in the 21st century, ( as mentioned in an earlier post by another poster) was "acceptable" in the 1300s, and not just in islam, but catholicism too... for whatever reasons as you pointed out, I believe I even said, political /alliances etc etc in this post http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4520016 but you go on with your bad ignorant self

OK, so when do the ex parte and ex post facto reparations from the Catholics to the Anglicans start here, and where do you want the checks sent to?
Setting fire to your strawman for not having a brain

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
If I had said christian, I would have had you or some other numpty telling me it wasnt protestant or anglican(church of england), baptist or any other branch of "christianity" that we know today, and explaining that it neither come to pass in the UK or europe until Martin Luther, let alone Henry VIII. Baptists neither until after Luther, around 1600?

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Were you to have said "Christian wedding" instead of "Catholic wedding" concerning a time when they were one and the same in England, until Henry VIII, it would have been more historically accurate and certainly more meaningful to the issue of the OP. "Catholic" has a quite different connotation today than it did in 1200 or 1500.

Sorry you missed that.

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Lucy was quite correct in using the term 'christian' for that particular era.

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Richard II of england married his bride who six...in 1396
, Catholic wedding

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And also to denote a distinct difference to the Jews who considered themselves to be 'christian'.

Sorry you missed that 

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try putting it in humour...not politics n religion..just a thought.