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tazzygirl -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 8:46:27 AM)
According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Report database, in 2010 58% of hate crime offenders were latino or white, 18% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were Native Americans.[38] The report also reveals that 48% of all hate crime offenders were motivated by the victim's race, while 18% were based on the victim's religion, and another 18% were based on the victim's sexual orientation.[39] The report states that among hate crime offenses motivated by race, 70% were composed of anti-black bias, while 17.7% were of anti-white bias, and 5% were of anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias.[39]

BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 10:26:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Report database, in 2010 58% of hate crime offenders were latino or white, 18% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were Native Americans.[38] The report also reveals that 48% of all hate crime offenders were motivated by the victim's race, while 18% were based on the victim's religion, and another 18% were based on the victim's sexual orientation.[39] The report states that among hate crime offenses motivated by race, 70% were composed of anti-black bias, while 17.7% were of anti-white bias, and 5% were of anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias.[39] As the combination of latinos and whites is in the 80% range they are grossly underrepresented in hate crimes. Thanks for the info.

tazzygirl -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 10:28:28 AM)
Your point?

BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 11:03:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Your point? It isn't as one sided as many would have us believe.

tazzygirl -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 11:09:06 AM)
in 2010 58% of hate crime offenders were latino or white, 18% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were Native Americans Spin that however you want. The percentages dont change. In fact, I am willing to bet that those numbers are a bit low, in actuality, since the reporting is from local and state agencies.

BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 11:19:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl in 2010 58% of hate crime offenders were latino or white, 18% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were Native Americans Spin that however you want. The percentages dont change. In fact, I am willing to bet that those numbers are a bit low, in actuality, since the reporting is from local and state agencies. no spin Just compare your numbers to population percentages Figures are also affected by the reluctance to declare a hate crime if it is black on white

tazzygirl -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 12:03:01 PM)
Depending on the area, it could be more prevalent to not call white on black a hate crime.

BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 1:59:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Depending on the area, it could be more prevalent to not call white on black a hate crime. No doubt which would even it out But your figures show that 80% of the population commits 58% of these crimes or 75% of their "share" They also show that 12% of the population commits 18% of them or 150% of their share. Interesting stats having no bearing on any individual case No spin just math

thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 2:47:33 PM)
quote: 5% were of anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias.[ It amazes me that there are that many people who would pick a fight with a samoan.

thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 2:51:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl in 2010 58% of hate crime offenders were latino or white, 18% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were Native Americans Spin that however you want. The percentages dont change. In fact, I am willing to bet that those numbers are a bit low, in actuality, since the reporting is from local and state agencies. no spin Just compare your numbers to population percentages I remain unconvinced that latino/anglo population constitutes 80% of the u.s. population. quote: Figures are also affected by the reluctance to declare a hate crime if it is black on white Any validation for this moronic bullshit?

thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 2:55:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD But your figures show that 80% of the population commits 58% of these crimes or 75% of their "share" They also show that 12% of the population commits 18% of them or 150% of their share. Why do you think that is?

BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 2:58:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl in 2010 58% of hate crime offenders were latino or white, 18% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were Native Americans Spin that however you want. The percentages dont change. In fact, I am willing to bet that those numbers are a bit low, in actuality, since the reporting is from local and state agencies. no spin Just compare your numbers to population percentages I remain unconvinced that latino/anglo population constitutes 80% of the u.s. population. quote: Figures are also affected by the reluctance to declare a hate crime if it is black on white Any validation for this moronic bullshit? I checked census figures 63.7% white 16.4% Hispanic DOJ Didn't prosecute black panthers because the law was written to protect blacks from whites not the other way around

BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 3:16:00 PM)
Here is one source wikipedia.org/wiki/ For someone who doesn't know what thy are talking about you are pretty free with words like moronic

tazzygirl -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 5:53:13 PM)
quote: But your figures show that 80% of the population commits 58% of these crimes or 75% of their "share" quote: They also show that 12% of the population commits 18% of them or 150% of their share. Racial bias In 2009, law enforcement agencies reported that 3,816 single-bias hate crime offenses were racially motivated. Of these offenses: 71.4 percent were motivated by anti-black bias. 17.1 percent resulted from anti-white bias. 5.5 percent occurred because of biases against groups of individuals consisting of more than one race (anti-multiple races, group). 3.9 percent resulted from anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias. 2.2 percent were motivated by anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native bias http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/incidents.html 3816 x 71.4 = 2725 3816 x 17.1 = 683 And you want to make an issue of the total percentage of each within the population? Give me a break. Damn near 4 - 1 black vs white and you really want to insist that hate crimes against whites are worse? And we dont even know who is perpetrating the crimes... these are the numbers against people... you know.. the victims.

BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 9:06:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD But your figures show that 80% of the population commits 58% of these crimes or 75% of their "share" They also show that 12% of the population commits 18% of them or 150% of their share. Why do you think that is? Unlike you I don't think I have all the answers.

BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 9:22:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: But your figures show that 80% of the population commits 58% of these crimes or 75% of their "share" quote: They also show that 12% of the population commits 18% of them or 150% of their share. Racial bias In 2009, law enforcement agencies reported that 3,816 single-bias hate crime offenses were racially motivated. Of these offenses: 71.4 percent were motivated by anti-black bias. 17.1 percent resulted from anti-white bias. 5.5 percent occurred because of biases against groups of individuals consisting of more than one race (anti-multiple races, group). 3.9 percent resulted from anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias. 2.2 percent were motivated by anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native bias http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/incidents.html 3816 x 71.4 = 2725 3816 x 17.1 = 683 And you want to make an issue of the total percentage of each within the population? Give me a break. Damn near 4 - 1 black vs white and you really want to insist that hate crimes against whites are worse? And we dont even know who is perpetrating the crimes... these are the numbers against people... you know.. the victims. You are playing fast and loose with the numbers. Do to having blacks outnumbered nearly seven to one there will of course be a greater gross number of crimes committed by the larger group, if the number were even it would make whites and Hispanics saints by comparison, which they are not. The fact that Blacks commit hate crimes at twice the rate as whites/Hispanics proves only that that whites don't have a monopoly. Once again you misunderstand me, I never said that black hate crimes are worse than white hate crimes. The individual crime is the problem whether it is a white man beaten to death with flashlights or a black man dragged behind a pickup. Again I didn't say black hate crime is worse than white hate crime just that when people pretend it is a white monopoly they are at best delusional

tazzygirl -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/3/2013 7:34:04 AM)
quote: Again I didn't say black hate crime is worse than white hate crime just that when people pretend it is a white monopoly they are at best delusional Who said it was a white monopoly? Your attempt to extrapolate the numbers out to the general population doesnt wash. quote: The fact that Blacks commit hate crimes at twice the rate as whites/Hispanics proves only that that whites don't have a monopoly. 3816 x 71.4 = 2725 anti black 3816 x 17.1 = 683 anti white Thats twice the rate? They dont SAY how many of the anti white were committed by black people... nor do they say how many anti black hate crimes were committed by white people. What if in both groups its discovered a large percentage were commited by asians? what then? or hispanic? You are trying to extrapolate from the VICTIM LIST who is committing the crimes.

thishereboi -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/3/2013 7:44:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: His question was in response to isn't a black on white killing as bad as a white on black killing. That is not wht I asked for. This is what I asked for "Would it be possible to let us know just what the ratio of black on white vs. white on black violence has been in the u.s. for the past 100 years?10 years?1 year?" The issue here is that some think that all crime that is black on white is racially motivated. The facts are that some are and some are not. To try to ascribe the former to the latter is asanine and decietful. To deny that the overwhelming majority of white on black crime in the past 100 years has been racially motivatd is to ignore the facts and is asanine and decietful. Do you have any links to back that statement up?

thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/3/2013 9:38:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD But your figures show that 80% of the population commits 58% of these crimes or 75% of their "share" They also show that 12% of the population commits 18% of them or 150% of their share. Why do you think that is? Unlike you I don't think I have all the answers. So it would appear that posting up psuedo scientific bullshit has no purpose at all. Why is it important for us to know that that you think blacks commit more than their "share" of crime?

thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/3/2013 9:51:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: His question was in response to isn't a black on white killing as bad as a white on black killing. That is not wht I asked for. This is what I asked for "Would it be possible to let us know just what the ratio of black on white vs. white on black violence has been in the u.s. for the past 100 years?10 years?1 year?" The issue here is that some think that all crime that is black on white is racially motivated. The facts are that some are and some are not. To try to ascribe the former to the latter is asanine and decietful. To deny that the overwhelming majority of white on black crime in the past 100 years has been racially motivatd is to ignore the facts and is asanine and decietful. Do you have any links to back that statement up? One has to wonder what sort of fucking moron would need a link to "The sun will rise in the east?"

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