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thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/27/2013 6:48:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD



Right you instill values and respect for human life by:

Murdering the indiginous people who inhabited the western hemisphere and giving it official sanction.
Starting wars around the world for the purpose of agrandisement and giving it official sanction.
Cops asaulting and battering and murdering whom ever they choose and giving it official sanction.
I just cannot imagine what would cause a disinfranchised teenager to behave in exactly the manner they have been instructed.[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/27/2013 6:51:55 AM)

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Two million people with evil alleles are (temporarily) prevented from reproducing. Hm, it seems to me that it is working fine.


"Evil alleles"[8|]
"Is our children learning"gwb.




thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/27/2013 6:55:24 AM)

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Another way to free up police resources and prison space would be to keep as many non-violent cases out of the criminal justice system as humanly possible. If all the non-violent inmates were paroled tomorrow, how much prison space could that free up?


I am not in favor of letting people like the ones from enron out of the joint.

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(Finding complete, accurate, and updated statistics on this question were a bit elusive in a cursory search, although my sense is that a large chunk of the prison budgets could be drastically reduced.)

Part of the problem also has to do with the culture of the legal profession and various "by-the-book" types who have this anal retentive, obsessive need to process every single piddly little violation through the court system. (That's part of the reason why cops spend so much of their work time filling out paperwork, mainly because of anal-retentive lawyers and judges who demand it.)


It is called job security and the cops love to complain about getting 30+bux an hour for sitting on their asses doing it.




Lucylastic -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/27/2013 11:25:57 AM)

A former Montana high school teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old female student who later committed suicide will face only 30 days of jail time.

Stacey Dean Rambold, 54, had at least three sexual encounters with student Cherice Morales in 2008. In 2010, the student committed suicide a few weeks before her 17th birthday, The Billings Gazette reported.

Yellowstone County Judge G. Todd Baugh sentenced Rambold to 15 years prison, with all but only 31 days suspended for sexual intercourse without consent. The judge then gave Rambold credit for one day served, bringing the offender's total jail time to just 30 days.

Auliea Hanlon, mother to the victim, testified that her daughter's relationship with Rambold was a large factor in the teen's suicide. As the sentence was delivered, Hanlon began to scream "You people suck!" before leaving the courtroom.

The judge said victim Morales was "as much in control of the situation" as Rambold, according to Time.com.

Although Rambold was ordered to complete a sex-offender treatment program to have charges dismissed in 2008 after pleading guilty to rape, he was terminated from the program for missing meetings. Judge Baugh said the ex-teacher's termination from the program did not warrant a lengthy imprisonment.

Judge Baugh also said victim Morales was "older than her chronological age."

The same year Rambold was hired as a business teacher for Senior High School in 2004, principal Scott Anderson met with Rambold to discuss allegations that he touched a girl's thigh and waist. A court affidavit said Anderson told Rambold to "keep his hands off all students" and that anything further would result in a formal investigation, KTVQ reported.

Rambold will have to register as a sex offender.

A former Montana high school teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old female student who later committed suicide will face only 30 days of jail time.

Stacey Dean Rambold, 54, had at least three sexual encounters with student Cherice Morales in 2008. In 2010, the student committed suicide a few weeks before her 17th birthday, The Billings Gazette reported.

Yellowstone County Judge G. Todd Baugh sentenced Rambold to 15 years prison, with all but only 31 days suspended for sexual intercourse without consent. The judge then gave Rambold credit for one day served, bringing the offender's total jail time to just 30 days.

Auliea Hanlon, mother to the victim, testified that her daughter's relationship with Rambold was a large factor in the teen's suicide. As the sentence was delivered, Hanlon began to scream "You people suck!" before leaving the courtroom.

The judge said victim Morales was "as much in control of the situation" as Rambold, according to Time.com.

Although Rambold was ordered to complete a sex-offender treatment program to have charges dismissed in 2008 after pleading guilty to rape, he was terminated from the program for missing meetings. Judge Baugh said the ex-teacher's termination from the program did not warrant a lengthy imprisonment.

Judge Baugh also said victim Morales was "older than her chronological age."

The same year Rambold was hired as a business teacher for Senior High School in 2004, principal Scott Anderson met with Rambold to discuss allegations that he touched a girl's thigh and waist. A court affidavit said Anderson told Rambold to "keep his hands off all students" and that anything further would result in a formal investigation, KTVQ reported.

Rambold will have to register as a sex offender.</end quote>

Of course its ONLY children that have no values eh? and only parents and teacher that are bad...what message is this sending EVERYONE??????


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/27/stacy-rambold-raped-suicidal-student_n_3822640.html




BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/27/2013 11:29:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

A former Montana high school teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old female student who later committed suicide will face only 30 days of jail time.

Stacey Dean Rambold, 54, had at least three sexual encounters with student Cherice Morales in 2008. In 2010, the student committed suicide a few weeks before her 17th birthday, The Billings Gazette reported.

Yellowstone County Judge G. Todd Baugh sentenced Rambold to 15 years prison, with all but only 31 days suspended for sexual intercourse without consent. The judge then gave Rambold credit for one day served, bringing the offender's total jail time to just 30 days.

Auliea Hanlon, mother to the victim, testified that her daughter's relationship with Rambold was a large factor in the teen's suicide. As the sentence was delivered, Hanlon began to scream "You people suck!" before leaving the courtroom.

The judge said victim Morales was "as much in control of the situation" as Rambold, according to Time.com.

Although Rambold was ordered to complete a sex-offender treatment program to have charges dismissed in 2008 after pleading guilty to rape, he was terminated from the program for missing meetings. Judge Baugh said the ex-teacher's termination from the program did not warrant a lengthy imprisonment.

Judge Baugh also said victim Morales was "older than her chronological age."

The same year Rambold was hired as a business teacher for Senior High School in 2004, principal Scott Anderson met with Rambold to discuss allegations that he touched a girl's thigh and waist. A court affidavit said Anderson told Rambold to "keep his hands off all students" and that anything further would result in a formal investigation, KTVQ reported.

Rambold will have to register as a sex offender.

A former Montana high school teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old female student who later committed suicide will face only 30 days of jail time.

Stacey Dean Rambold, 54, had at least three sexual encounters with student Cherice Morales in 2008. In 2010, the student committed suicide a few weeks before her 17th birthday, The Billings Gazette reported.

Yellowstone County Judge G. Todd Baugh sentenced Rambold to 15 years prison, with all but only 31 days suspended for sexual intercourse without consent. The judge then gave Rambold credit for one day served, bringing the offender's total jail time to just 30 days.

Auliea Hanlon, mother to the victim, testified that her daughter's relationship with Rambold was a large factor in the teen's suicide. As the sentence was delivered, Hanlon began to scream "You people suck!" before leaving the courtroom.

The judge said victim Morales was "as much in control of the situation" as Rambold, according to Time.com.

Although Rambold was ordered to complete a sex-offender treatment program to have charges dismissed in 2008 after pleading guilty to rape, he was terminated from the program for missing meetings. Judge Baugh said the ex-teacher's termination from the program did not warrant a lengthy imprisonment.

Judge Baugh also said victim Morales was "older than her chronological age."

The same year Rambold was hired as a business teacher for Senior High School in 2004, principal Scott Anderson met with Rambold to discuss allegations that he touched a girl's thigh and waist. A court affidavit said Anderson told Rambold to "keep his hands off all students" and that anything further would result in a formal investigation, KTVQ reported.

Rambold will have to register as a sex offender.</end quote>

Of course its ONLY children that have no values eh? and only parents and teacher that are bad...what message is this sending EVERYONE??????


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/27/stacy-rambold-raped-suicidal-student_n_3822640.html

Is the judge going for insanity?
Thirty days is unjustifiable even without taking the age into account.




tj444 -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/27/2013 7:35:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Zonie63

I think that parents and teachers have to exert their influence early in life. Once kids reach their teen years, they start to realize the hierarchy of the society in which they live - and they'll quickly see that their teachers and parents are on much lower rungs on society's ladder. If the parents just park the kid in front of the TV and leave them there until they're 12, then that will have its own consequences.

I agree with this.. and imo it has to be done when he/she is only a few years old.. that little screamer demanding mom/dad buy cocoa puffs at the store & having a screaming fit/tantrum in the aisle until the dumb-as-a-brick parent relents and lets the kid have his cocoa puffs is where kids have already figured out they can do wtf they want & it doesn't matter squat what mommy & daddy say..




Zonie63 -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/28/2013 2:17:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Another way to free up police resources and prison space would be to keep as many non-violent cases out of the criminal justice system as humanly possible. If all the non-violent inmates were paroled tomorrow, how much prison space could that free up?


I am not in favor of letting people like the ones from enron out of the joint.


Well, maybe they could be put on work release, assigned to work as janitors at inner city high schools or housing projects. That might be a more effective deterrent than the minimum security country clubs these guys go to.




thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/30/2013 10:23:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Zonie63


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Another way to free up police resources and prison space would be to keep as many non-violent cases out of the criminal justice system as humanly possible. If all the non-violent inmates were paroled tomorrow, how much prison space could that free up?


I am not in favor of letting people like the ones from enron out of the joint.


Well, maybe they could be put on work release, assigned to work as janitors at inner city high schools or housing projects. That might be a more effective deterrent than the minimum security country clubs these guys go to.


How bout we put these punkassmotherfuckers, who ruined the lives of millions of people, in the black hole of calcutta?
How bout we skin them alive and put them to work making lampshades?
How bout we sell their punkasses and their whole families into eternal slavery?Given a little time I am sure I could come up with an appropriate punishment but the above will do for now.




thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/30/2013 11:36:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

No outrage from Jesse Jackson

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/08/21/jesse-jackson-tweets-that-killing-of-chris-lane-frowned-upon/

I think it’s obvious for America to see that black on white killing isn’t important for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton because there’s no money in it for them.

Would it be possible to let us know just what the ratio of black on white vs. white on black violence has been in the u.s. for the past 100 years?10 years?1 year?




BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/30/2013 3:27:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

No outrage from Jesse Jackson

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/08/21/jesse-jackson-tweets-that-killing-of-chris-lane-frowned-upon/

I think it’s obvious for America to see that black on white killing isn’t important for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton because there’s no money in it for them.

Would it be possible to let us know just what the ratio of black on white vs. white on black violence has been in the u.s. for the past 100 years?10 years?1 year?



www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

Very easy to find




Politesub53 -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/30/2013 5:00:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

Very easy to find


I think you missed Thompsons point, or at least his question.




BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (8/30/2013 10:07:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

Very easy to find


I think you missed Thompsons point, or at least his question.


But I gave him what he asked for.




thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/1/2013 3:23:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

No outrage from Jesse Jackson

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/08/21/jesse-jackson-tweets-that-killing-of-chris-lane-frowned-upon/

I think it’s obvious for America to see that black on white killing isn’t important for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton because there’s no money in it for them.

Would it be possible to let us know just what the ratio of black on white vs. white on black violence has been in the u.s. for the past 100 years?10 years?1 year?



www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

Very easy to find

Try reading the fucking question.
The bigot cite posted failed to do anything but whine.




thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/1/2013 3:29:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

Very easy to find


I think you missed Thompsons point, or at least his question.


But I gave him what he asked for.

I asked for a comparison of black on white crime vs. white on black crime for specific time frames which was not provided. What was provided was a bigoted rant from a bigot site about why blacks are terrible people.




BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/1/2013 4:03:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

Very easy to find


I think you missed Thompsons point, or at least his question.


But I gave him what he asked for.

I asked for a comparison of black on white crime vs. white on black crime for specific time frames which was not provided. What was provided was a bigoted rant from a bigot site about why blacks are terrible people.

Criminals are terrible people.
Jackson's view on this is that it is 'frowned on"
You honestly think that is an appropriate response.
Sharpton's response is " "




Politesub53 -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/1/2013 5:31:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

I asked for a comparison of black on white crime vs. white on black crime for specific time frames which was not provided. What was provided was a bigoted rant from a bigot site about why blacks are terrible people.


I got what you were asking, which was why I querried it. I note you havent got a straight answer yet.




BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/1/2013 6:26:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

I asked for a comparison of black on white crime vs. white on black crime for specific time frames which was not provided. What was provided was a bigoted rant from a bigot site about why blacks are terrible people.


I got what you were asking, which was why I querried it. I note you havent got a straight answer yet.


His question was irrelevant, no matter what happened 15 years ago it has no bearing on 3 thugs gunning a man down for kicks. It also has no bearing on Jackson and Sharpton ignoring it or treating it like wearing a t-shirt to a black tie affair.
His question was in response to isn't a black on white killing as bad as a white on black killing.




thompsonx -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 5:42:46 AM)

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His question was in response to isn't a black on white killing as bad as a white on black killing.


That is not wht I asked for.
This is what I asked for
"Would it be possible to let us know just what the ratio of black on white vs. white on black violence has been in the u.s. for the past 100 years?10 years?1 year?"
The issue here is that some think that all crime that is black on white is racially motivated. The facts are that some are and some are not. To try to ascribe the former to the latter is asanine and decietful. To deny that the overwhelming majority of white on black crime in the past 100 years has been racially motivatd is to ignore the facts and is asanine and decietful.




thishereboi -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 6:11:09 AM)

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BamaD -> RE: Bored in Oklahoma (9/2/2013 6:14:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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His question was in response to isn't a black on white killing as bad as a white on black killing.


That is not wht I asked for.
This is what I asked for
"Would it be possible to let us know just what the ratio of black on white vs. white on black violence has been in the u.s. for the past 100 years?10 years?1 year?"
The issue here is that some think that all crime that is black on white is racially motivated. The facts are that some are and some are not. To try to ascribe the former to the latter is asanine and decietful. To deny that the overwhelming majority of white on black crime in the past 100 years has been racially motivatd is to ignore the facts and is asanine and decietful.


But currently racially motivated white on black crime is greatly in decline.
What it was 100 years ago is irrelevant.
Racially motivated black on white crime is harder to track because it is not acknowledged.
Do you deny that one of the kids tweeted that it was time to kill a white person or that he bragged about beating up 6 white people since the Zimmerman case.
Are you claiming that because of, lets say the Bird murder over a decade ago that blacks should get a pass on hate crimes today?
Your point is pointless




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