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ORIGINAL: MrrPete

One of the reasons that there's a lot less respect is the advent  of  the Internet.
The community has grown at such an exponential rate and the newcomers
don't take the time to educate themselves.

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

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ORIGINAL: feistykitten

What if you work in a very formal workplace.....and lets say that you think your boss is a total idiot..... and thats ok cause that is your opinion but you wouldnt tell him that when he comes to your desk and asks you to do something.  you would simply say "yes Sir" and do it.  That is token respect....you dont have to agree with anything they say nor do you have to like them. but because he carries the title of boss (and it doesnt even matter how he made it that far up the ladder) you say Sir.

but the original question doesnt have anything to do with or about the forums

just a bit more of my two cents. *shrugs*

And respect has nothing to do with whether you are polite to your boss or not.

If my boss is an ass, I will be polite and tell him hes an ass.  I have never called a boss Sir just because hes boss?  How lame is that?  I am expected to lie?  Which ones worse?  I would rather be polite and honest than lie and faux respect.  Token respect is empty and pointless and the most disrespectful thing you can do to yourself and the person you are being false with.  Doing something 'just cause' makes you untrustworthy because its nothing but pseudo personality.

 

People are so big on respect.  Your mixing up respect with politeness.    You can be polite to someone, whether there dominant, submissive or switch personality... But respect you cannot possibly give until you know someone.  Respect comes from knowledge - no more, no less.

 

Peace and Rapture

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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

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ORIGINAL: MrrPete

One of the reasons that there's a lot less respect is the advent  of  the Internet.
The community has grown at such an exponential rate and the newcomers
don't take the time to educate themselves.

I agree with you in a way. But I think it's more because of the anonymity the internet provides then the growth it has created. I doubt that many people would act they way they do on here, if they had to look the person in the eye.

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

I think you are right, I am going to return to the old days of respect and honor.  You know, when kids with any sort of mental illness or deformity were sent to jail and the key thrown away.  When you saw a man hitting a woman, you looked away and said nothing.  When you saw a sign that said "whites only" you nodded your head and let others choose those sorts of things.  "Uncle pervy would never make you touch his cock dear, you should be ashamed of asking me to stop him."  Yep, them sure were the good old days!

Imagine how rude it would be if when we saw someone exhibiting a classic pattern of abuse to say anything.  Pointing it out to someone that their post exposes several issues they are clearly trying to hide but we can see quite effortlessly.  Why would we be such jerks to point out when someone is using "true" or "real submissive" to emotionally manipulate people?

I think the time is now to put an end to all the rudeness, I am going to go next door and shake the hand of that child molester and help him get a job at my kids school.

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Edited to add..........MrrPete.... having a possible future Dom or Master watching me isn't gonna mke a damn bit of difference in how I treat others... it's how I treat them they're going to look at. People contact me more out of me showing my proper manners... not respect.

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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat

what is a 'sam' iv never heard the term befor but tis poped up a lot the last few days

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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....."what happened to the time where even token respect was afforded Doms/Dommes known or not ...............

There are some who believe that respect should be given until an individual proves they are undeserving of such, then there are those, like myself, who do not give respect to just anyone based on any self-proclaimed title .. but who, instead, feel such much be earned. I believe it's always been exactly this way, so I don't know where one would get the idea that respect is automatic.

It all depends on whom you ask. If someone gives respect automatically, I would hope they apply such equally to all sides of the BDSM acronym ... Master, slave, switch and all the rest of the labels.

Celeste

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The argument that "The world was hitting the height of its wonderfulness just a few years before I got there and has plummeted to the depths of despair ever since" is as old as human history itself.  And its usually a sign of a persons understanding about themselves within the world changing, rather than the world itself.

That being said- never expect anyone to share the same values as you do.  Be happily surprised when someone does.

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The argument that "The world was hitting the height of its wonderfulness just a few years before I got there and has plummeted to the depths of despair ever since" is as old as human history itself.  And its usually a sign of a persons understanding about themselves within the world changing, rather than the world itself.

That being said- never expect anyone to share the same values as you do.  Be happily surprised when someone does.

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ORIGINAL: feistykitten

What happened to the time where even token respect was afforded Doms/Dommes known or not, and what happened to this community as a whole when one sits there in judgement of another because their views do not conform with those of others?? wasnt this life at one time based on mutual respect for such diversity? and if you dont like or agree with someones opinions and views then why respond to them why not just move on and let bygones be bygones whether you believe they are a real Dom/Domme or not.