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naughtynick81 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 2:42:06 AM)

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Tell me Nikki, is it easier for men to find shelter or for women? Lets see how much you really know


NO, because the government supports women more than men.

Just because I raise the issue, that doesn't make it my fault or my responsibility due to your bigoted ways in veering away from that point. It's solely the fault of the people who are the cause the problem, not the people who just simply point it out.

It's like me blaming a female rape victim instead of blaming the man who actually raped her.




naughtynick81 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 2:46:09 AM)

Women do things that piss men off. Women do things that men don't agree with.

So I guess it's all fine and dandy for me to say gendered violence against women should be considered funny because we should give it a pass as the things women do piss men off.




tazzygirl -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 2:53:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

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Tell me Nikki, is it easier for men to find shelter or for women? Lets see how much you really know


NO, because the government supports women more than men.

Just because I raise the issue, that doesn't make it my fault or my responsibility due to your bigoted ways in veering away from that point. It's solely the fault of the people who are the cause the problem, not the people who just simply point it out.

It's like me blaming a female rape victim instead of blaming the man who actually raped her.


Actually, in the US, its far easier for a man to find a shelter for the night than it is for a woman. And most shelters dont take children.




tazzygirl -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 2:55:49 AM)

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Women do things that piss men off. Women do things that men don't agree with.


Men do things that piss women off. Men do things that women dont agree with.

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So I guess it's all fine and dandy for me to say gendered violence against women should be considered funny because we should give it a pass as the things women do piss men off.


I never said the video was funny. I did say it was a powerful statement.




naughtynick81 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 2:58:24 AM)

Which gender is more likely to be homeless again?




tazzygirl -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 3:21:51 AM)

Since women tend to either go to battered women's shelters, or back to families (in which case, they are still homeless, as temporary housing doesnt equate to not being homeless) you tell me. I can tell you that a woman without children is just as likely to be homeless as a man without children. Its not the women being housed, its the kids.




naughtynick81 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 3:45:51 AM)

Can you cite where childless women get denied as much as childless men?




Lucylastic -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:04:42 AM)

DO you actually understand anything about homeless people, the mental issues, the crime , the assaults, the lack of funding, the political aspects, the social aspects???
To use it as a feminist"men hating issue", is really so pathetic, im surprised you can touch yourself.




Zonie63 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:05:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: Zonie63
I think it can be argued that feminism is a political issue. Many may disagree with the OP's style and particular statements he makes, but I think the topic of feminism itself would properly fall within the realm of politics.


Sure there are absolutely gender politics, I'm certainly not claiming otherwise. I'm contesting that the original post is about a real issue as opposed to a paranoid delusion.


I suppose politics can be like that from time to time.




Zonie63 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:08:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

The most dangerous jobs in America-- all "male-dominated" but predictably, feminists don't mind



Well, there's an idea, Nick. How about if all of us men go on strike? I wonder what the feminists would do. [;)]




Zonie63 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:17:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Why arent men applying for nursing positions?


I was wondering about that myself.

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Why Men Do Not Pursue Nursing

Higher Perceived Expectations. Any nursing student may struggle to live up to others’ expectations, whether those expectations come from a relative or a professor. But being a male student comes with the additional challenge of facing society’s expectations. Because nursing is predominantly female, males must work harder just to prove that they can be as competent as their female counterparts.

Outnumbered. Male student nurses tend to be very “visible” to their classmates and faculty. As a result, they face extra scrutiny in and outside of the classroom. Sitting silent in the back of a classroom is often not an option when you are the only male in your class. Even still, professors may neglect to tailor their curriculum to address concerns unique to male nurses.

Treated Differently. Male student nurses are expected to be physically stronger than their female peers and are often asked to assist with lifting heavy patients. They are more likely to be mistaken for a doctor or medical student in a clinical setting. And they do not always have the same opportunities as women in this field. They may miss out on scholarships created specifically for female students in a predominantly-female school or they may encounter female patients who are uncomfortable having a male nurse, particularly in obstetrics/gynecology.

Ridiculed for Being a Male. One of the primary reasons more men do not pursue a career in nursing is because of the assumption that becoming a male nurse will trigger ridicule from others. For many, nursing is not viewed as a respectable profession for men. Many male nursing students will experience anxiety and stress when dealing with a patient and their family—and sometimes even their own family—because of this stigma.

- See more at: http://www.minoritynurse.com/article/men-nursing#sthash.MYbFC2R9.dpuf





MsMJAY -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:23:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

Name me one DV shelter where it has equal consideration and support for men under feminist funding.


Name one doctor who offers prostate exams to women?
That is not a service is women traditionally need. Why don't men typically get offered pap smears? why? Same reason.

Services are typically offered to the group that shows a need that particular service.

Most men don't have the type of financial hardship that many women have when they are in a DV situation. The shelter service was offered because one of the main reasons women cannot get out the situation is because often they have no money and no where else to go. Some men may have that issue but most do not. Thousands and thousands of women every year actually do need that service.




MsMJAY -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:26:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

Which gender is more likely to be homeless again?


That is why homeless shelters allow men and women. DV shelters are not just about housing. They are offering the women protection against someone who has already violently attacked them. If women fleeing these situations went to a homeless shelter no such protection would be in place for them.




PeonForHer -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:34:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

The most dangerous jobs in America-- all "male-dominated" but predictably, feminists don't mind


I'd put prostitution in any list of dangerous jobs. That tends to be a female-dominated profession. Just saying.




Lucylastic -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:37:22 AM)

THe dangers for homeless kids/teens are enormous, usually perpetrated by men, for other men and money.




naughtynick81 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:46:02 AM)

Next in news, most murder victims are men. But feminist stay quiet about that one.




Lucylastic -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:48:42 AM)

How many are killed by women?




naughtynick81 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:53:52 AM)

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How many are killed by women?


The minority, I know this.

But in feminist news, it's only important when most victims are women.




crazyml -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 4:58:52 AM)

Right,

So do you acknowledge that men account for around a third of DV?


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

Crazyml

I am sorry if you're a bit slow. But as you were saying, jokes about gendered violence against men should be given a pass because of the sympathy women go through with men, right?

So if there are plenty of cases of men being victims, why doesn't the same apply when gendered violence against men happens?





Lucylastic -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 5:06:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

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How many are killed by women?


The minority, I know this.

But in feminist news, it's only important when most victims are women.

what utter trash you talk




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