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naughtynick81 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 5:13:19 AM)

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what utter trash you talk


Same goes for blind faith in regards of what contemporary feminism actually does for men.




Lucylastic -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 5:17:47 AM)

you have blind ignorance of what feminism, homelessness is, let alone your own inability to take part in making a difference to yours and any other DV male victim is, and I doubt you have done anything to help ANY woman ever.




angelikaJ -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 5:26:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

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what utter trash you talk


Same goes for blind faith in regards of what contemporary feminism actually does for men.



Contemporary feminism is focused on Gender Equality.




naughtynick81 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 5:28:32 AM)

So, let me get this clear, a movement that tries to regiment male sexuality while liberating female sexuality.

Let me think that through.




naughtynick81 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 5:30:50 AM)

Oh, I get it, male sexuality is objectifying and oppressive. But female sexuality on the same level is human.





Lucylastic -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 5:33:08 AM)

Not for too long, as you have completely ignored the point, as usual
btw, did you ever get back to the hilary clinton and other links I gave you???
seems like your brain had an fart cos you didnt go back to it
*quelle surprise*
wonders where you will move goalposts to this time.




MsMJAY -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 6:30:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

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what utter trash you talk


Same goes for blind faith in regards of what contemporary feminism actually does for men.


This is some of what feminism does for men

More men have the option of being stay at home dads today than ever before. Feminism did that.

Because more women have equal pay in the workplace more m/f marriages are benefitting with greater income and a higher standard of living. Feminism did that.

And whether they are taking advantage of it or not, more men have more choice to go into careers that a long time ago they were not able to go into. Feminism did that.

More employers are beginning to offer maternity leave to new fathers as well as new mother. Thank a feminist.

Feminism fought the myth that only women should be the primary caregivers of children. This changed things in custody battles giving men just as much legal right to be primary custodian of the kids in a divorce as a woman. This equal right for men was brought to you courtesy of the feminist movement.

Feminism fought against the dangerous stereotype that boys had to look, act, be a certain way in order to “be a man.” Boys and men now have more freedom to dress, act, pursue however and whatever suits them.

And concerning rape and sexual assault? It was feminists who challenged the foolishness that men by gender were somehow weak and could not contain themselves sexually in the presence of a short skirted woman. That lie (that men in general just can’t help themselves) was actually put forward by men and that is what perpetuated the myth that all men are rapists.

So actually feminism has done a whole lot for men. Men and women both are better off because of it.




mnottertail -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 6:36:24 AM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvyt0PwMX_g

contemporary feminist song calls for non-violence.




tweakabelle -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 6:39:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

Next in news, most murder victims are men. But feminist stay quiet about that one.

I don't believe I have ever met a woman who didn't want to see a reduction in levels of violence and murder, whether male on male or male on female or female on male or whatever ....

It's not difficult for me to imagine living my entire life without ever meeting such a woman if indeed such a woman exists.

I am unable to make either of those statements about men. I wish I could.




angelikaJ -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 8:23:07 AM)

FR:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/womens-voice/




tazzygirl -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 8:43:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Zonie63


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Why arent men applying for nursing positions?


I was wondering about that myself.

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Why Men Do Not Pursue Nursing

Higher Perceived Expectations. Any nursing student may struggle to live up to others’ expectations, whether those expectations come from a relative or a professor. But being a male student comes with the additional challenge of facing society’s expectations. Because nursing is predominantly female, males must work harder just to prove that they can be as competent as their female counterparts.

Outnumbered. Male student nurses tend to be very “visible” to their classmates and faculty. As a result, they face extra scrutiny in and outside of the classroom. Sitting silent in the back of a classroom is often not an option when you are the only male in your class. Even still, professors may neglect to tailor their curriculum to address concerns unique to male nurses.

Treated Differently. Male student nurses are expected to be physically stronger than their female peers and are often asked to assist with lifting heavy patients. They are more likely to be mistaken for a doctor or medical student in a clinical setting. And they do not always have the same opportunities as women in this field. They may miss out on scholarships created specifically for female students in a predominantly-female school or they may encounter female patients who are uncomfortable having a male nurse, particularly in obstetrics/gynecology.

Ridiculed for Being a Male. One of the primary reasons more men do not pursue a career in nursing is because of the assumption that becoming a male nurse will trigger ridicule from others. For many, nursing is not viewed as a respectable profession for men. Many male nursing students will experience anxiety and stress when dealing with a patient and their family—and sometimes even their own family—because of this stigma.

- See more at: http://www.minoritynurse.com/article/men-nursing#sthash.MYbFC2R9.dpuf




I graduated with 3 male nurses.... could NOT have loved them more. I have worked with multiple male nurses. Hard working, intelligent, dedicated men.

Having said that, a rebuttal....

https://www.osha.gov/doc/accsh/haswicformal.html




Moonhead -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 12:14:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

So, let me get this clear, a movement that tries to regiment male sexuality while liberating female sexuality.


Got any evidence for that statement?
(And no, some whining misogynist bitching on youtube that the last time he used roofies to get laid he wound up in court because of these man hating cunts picking on him does not count.)




mnottertail -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 12:25:40 PM)

I have mounds of evidence. Want to see my private? We're ALL soldiers, Moon.




GotSteel -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 12:28:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: wittynamehere
Feminism is as ridiculous as masculism - both are sexism from different sides of the same coin.
Equality is an excellent goal IMO, but neither feminism or masculism seek it, and I support neither.


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ORIGINAL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.


Feminism is supposed to be about equality not sexism.




Edwynn -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 3:13:44 PM)


Funny you bring this subject up, because I witness a mom taking her 5 and 8 yr. old girls to the karate and other martial arts classes.

It is as clear to me as it is to you that the only purpose in this adventure is to teach girls how to kick boys in the nuts.

Just as it is as clear to me as it is to you that another mom taking her boys to the very same class is for purpose of teaching them how to spread love and joy to all people.

I thought I was the only one who caught on to that.




GotSteel -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/5/2013 5:44:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/delusional-disorder
Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.

People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted.




popeye1250 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/6/2013 4:00:44 PM)

"Violence against men?"
Some guys are willing to pay big bucks for that.




Lucylastic -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/6/2013 5:55:41 PM)

FFS typical post from you when we are talking non consent in DV In men and women
Please pay attention




Zonie63 -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/7/2013 6:55:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: Zonie63


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Why arent men applying for nursing positions?


I was wondering about that myself.





I graduated with 3 male nurses.... could NOT have loved them more. I have worked with multiple male nurses. Hard working, intelligent, dedicated men.

Having said that, a rebuttal....

https://www.osha.gov/doc/accsh/haswicformal.html


I'm not sure if one article has anything to do with the other, nor was I intending to elicit any kind of rebuttal. You asked an interesting question, and I wanted to find out the answer. I can't say for certain if the article I found was the "right" answer to your question. The OSHA article you linked noted several issues which I agree should be addressed, but it seems the main issue here is whether people are inhibited/discouraged from entering their desired profession because they're discriminated against.

One common link between nursing and construction is that both fields constantly bemoan labor shortages and lack of skilled personnel. It would behoove both industries to examine this issue and try to examine why they have shortages and what can be done to resolve the issue.

There is also the matter of reasonable accommodation. What reasonable measures can be employed to accommodate the opposite gender in fields which were traditionally relegated to a single gender? It would seem to me that the only accommodation necessary to encourage men to enter the nursing profession would be a change in attitude (which doesn't cost any extra money), but in order to accommodate women in the construction field, a business might have to incur extra costs which could affect their bottom line.







tazzygirl -> RE: Feminist song openly calls for violence against men (9/7/2013 7:46:29 AM)

The rebuttal was in the treatment of women on a construction site... sorta mirrors the complaints listed in the link you gave as well. Underappreciated, expectations unreasonable, for women sexual harassment and physical threats....




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