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RE: Interesting Take on Obamacare - 9/24/2013 11:32:37 AM   
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For those interested:

The administration itself predicts 66% of people ensured under obamacare will be forced out of there coverage.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-112hhrg76496/pdf/CHRG-112hhrg76496.pdf


Wait! Candidate Obummer promised us that NO ONE would lose their insurance or have to switch doctors!

What happened? Did he lie? NO way!






LOL!!!!!YOU been punked!!!! Nobody in the administration said that because it was a subcommittee hearing in the teabagger house, back in 11 and no administration person said that nor did anyone in that hearing.


How droll and typical that illiterates are hoping others cannot read, and thereby spread lies and propaganda with impugnity and feeblemindedness.


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RE: Interesting Take on Obamacare - 9/24/2013 11:36:25 AM   
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But what part of 'Reality' don't 'conservatives' understand? They are borrowing and spending at massively destructive levels.

With medical costs at a ridiculous amount now, Obamacare is not the answer!

Well, it is true that single-payer would probably be a much better way of controlling costs. Countries that take that approach manage to cover everyone at half the cost of the US, and have longer life expectancies and lower infant mortality rates.


Any proof that starting where we are right now and adding in singlepayer would result in where they are now? No?

Obamacare was partially a response to the high dollar amount we are spending in health care.

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4550520

Here, I broke down some stuff, made a couple assumptions, and showed that we are already spending more in public dollars than everyone else. The CBO just came out with a report showing that spending is expected to rise to almost 20% of GDP by 2022 (total, not just public spending). And, we still won't have universal coverage (93.1% coverage in 2022; leaving approx. 30M people uninsured; up from 85.3% in 2011).

How are we going to cut costs in half while adding more people/services into the mix?


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RE: Interesting Take on Obamacare - 9/24/2013 11:39:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
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For those interested:
The administration itself predicts 66% of people ensured under obamacare will be forced out of there coverage.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-112hhrg76496/pdf/CHRG-112hhrg76496.pdf

Wait! Candidate Obummer promised us that NO ONE would lose their insurance or have to switch doctors!
What happened? Did he lie? NO way!

LOL!!!!!YOU been punked!!!! Nobody in the administration said that because it was a subcommittee hearing in the teabagger house, back in 11 and no administration person said that nor did anyone in that hearing.
How droll and typical that illiterates are hoping others cannot read, and thereby spread lies and propaganda with impugnity and feeblemindedness.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LRcLMScEqo


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RE: Interesting Take on Obamacare - 9/24/2013 11:41:07 AM   
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Yup, and you can, so what is wrong with that?

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RE: Interesting Take on Obamacare - 9/24/2013 11:57:29 AM   
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For those interested:

The administration itself predicts 66% of people ensured under obamacare will be forced out of there coverage.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-112hhrg76496/pdf/CHRG-112hhrg76496.pdf

What page. Nothing comes up in a search of that document.

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RE: Interesting Take on Obamacare - 9/24/2013 12:00:11 PM   
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I often wonder if individuals even read the healthcare law which has been available since last year via long and short version and timeline. I often find people who are screaming about how this is going to impact us negatively haven't even read the law nor understand it. I know I can't wait for it to go full effect. It has saved me a lot of money thus far. I can't wait for it to save me even more.

The part I really like as a Medicare recipient is that as part of the cost cutting they have finally come down hard on the sleazes selling scooters and other unneeded medical devices or grossly overcharging for needed ones.


The scooter store just went out of business. It had nothing to do with obamacare. Although I am very glad they are out of business also.

They were just plain defrauding the programs. You'll notice their whole industry has quietly gone away. Also have you noticed the TV ads about diabetes test strips? The reduction in suppliers is due to the ACA cost cutting and prices are coming down.

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RE: Interesting Take on Obamacare - 9/24/2013 12:00:52 PM   
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It does, finally. It is a 2011 subcommittee hearing by teabaggers that doesnt say much of nothing.

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