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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

no no no PS they are all left leaning sources, they dont have SYG or castle doctrine, its PPP or you are being dishonest
dontcha know and STOP disrespecting the family!!!

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But certainly, a person can go against the families stated wishes and try to make this about SYG(even though SYG was not part of the issue at all), if that's the sort of person they are. No one is stopping them. They don't even need to know the whole story before they use the grieving family to push an agenda, against the families will. But it would make that person a ghoulish asshole.

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702

Well there really no point in arguing with 3 brits in a circle jerk... but I will make a few comments, and then let you dance around giggling over the dead boy and his families pain.

PS would have made a devastating argument, if you had actually quoted the judge referring to SYG. But you didn't. The judge did explicitly say, "he and his family were clearly under attack". But said nothing about SYG.

Lucy, I have already explained to you the difference between PPP and SYG. Perhaps you are not smart enough to comprehend, though I doubt it. SYG was not part of the case AT ALL. Not invoked by the defense, ever.

The family doesn't want this to be about national SYG issues, their statement has been quoted several times, and yes, you are free to ignore them if you like.


And Peon, You are describing what Lucy and Think Progress are doing.


Carry on with your Circle jerk now.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

For the rest of us, who aren't so afflicted, it's *our* job to work out what can be done to prevent such things happening again in the future.

Ah. Well then, maybe you (or fucking somebody) would like to say a few words about feral bullies with illegal guns? Or their parents?

Just sayin, yanno.

K.

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702

It is a weird position they are taking Bama.

and they have to lie in order to make their point.

I wonder why?

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Or they honestly believe that a gun in the hands of a homeowner is the greatest evil.

Well in all fairness, ya gotta admit that guns in the hands of people who can't fucking hit what they shoot at ain't heaven.

K.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

I have always said that a man shouldn't have a gun he can't control.

Saying it and having laws that require it are two different things. In the states I'm familiar with, your range test amounts to demonstrating that you know the basics of gun safety and operation: verifying that it's not loaded, loading it, operating the safety (if applicable), chambering a round (if it's not a revolver), all while not pointing it in anybody's direction or sweeping anybody with it, and then basically showing that you can hit the broad side of a barn. That gets you licensed to carry. Anything. You can pass the test with a .22, then merrily go saddle-up a .357 magnum.

K.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

I have always said that a man shouldn't have a gun he can't control.

Saying it and having laws that require it are two different things. In the states I'm familiar with, your range test amounts to demonstrating that you know the basics of gun safety and operation: verifying that it's not loaded, loading it, operating the safety (if applicable), chambering a round (if it's not a revolver), all while not pointing it in anybody's direction or sweeping anybody with it, and then basically showing that you can hit the broad side of a barn. That gets you licensed to carry. Anything. You can pass the test with a .22, then merrily go saddle-up a .357 magnum.

K.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

I point this out to show the inherent inaccuracy of range tests.

I have a different kind of range test in mind, but let that be for another time. I don't want to extend what is already a hijack.

K.