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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

As always I respect your opinion but it is just like drivers tests look around when driving and you will see what I mean.

Heh. Well the driving test that I had to pass was my father's.

Not to get the license, that was easy. To get the KEYS.

K.

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702

Well there really no point in arguing with 3 brits in a circle jerk... but I will make a few comments, and then let you dance around giggling over the dead boy and his families pain.

PS would have made a devastating argument, if you had actually quoted the judge referring to SYG. But you didn't. The judge did explicitly say, "he and his family were clearly under attack". But said nothing about SYG.

Lucy, I have already explained to you the difference between PPP and SYG. Perhaps you are not smart enough to comprehend, though I doubt it. SYG was not part of the case AT ALL. Not invoked by the defense, ever.

The family doesn't want this to be about national SYG issues, their statement has been quoted several times, and yes, you are free to ignore them if you like.


And Peon, You are describing what Lucy and Think Progress are doing.


Carry on with your Circle jerk now.

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702

It is a weird position they are taking Bama.

and they have to lie in order to make their point.

I wonder why?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702

It is a weird position they are taking Bama.

and they have to lie in order to make their point.

I wonder why?

It would seem that making their point is all that matters.
Or they honestly believe that a gun in the hands of a homeowner is the greatest evil.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Or they honestly believe that a gun in the hands of a homeowner is the greatest evil.

Well in all fairness, ya gotta admit that guns in the hands of people who can't fucking hit what they shoot at ain't heaven.

K.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702

It is a weird position they are taking Bama.

and they have to lie in order to make their point.

I wonder why?

It would seem that making their point is all that matters.
Or they honestly believe that a gun in the hands of a homeowner is the greatest evil.

You are at it again brains...........a dead bystander is the greatest evil.

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1. You must be without fault in bringing on the difficulty.
2. You must actually believe you are in imminent danger of loss of life or serious bodily injury or actually be in such danger.
3. If you believe you are in such danger, you must use deadly force only if a reasonable or prudent man of ordinary firmness and courage would have believed himself to be in such danger, or, if you actually were in such danger, the circumstances were such as would warrant a man of ordinary prudence, firmness and courage to strike the fatal blow in order to save himself from serious bodily harm or losing his own life.
4. You had no other probable means of avoiding the danger of losing your own life or sustaining serious bodily injury than to act as you did in the particular instance.

Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_4674557_south-carolina-self-defense-laws.html#ixzz2htSzn0XM

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PROTECTION OF PERSONS AND PROPERTY ACT

The stated intent of the legislation is to codify the common law castle doctrine, which recognizes that a person’s home is his castle, and to extend the doctrine to include an occupied vehicle and the person’s place of business. This bill authorizes the lawful use of deadly force under certain circumstances against an intruder or attacker in a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle. The bill provides that there is no duty to retreat if (1) the person is in a place where he has a right to be, including the person’s place of business, (2) the person is not engaged in an unlawful activity, and (3) the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent death, great bodily injury, or the commission of a violent crime. A person who lawfully uses deadly force is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action, unless the person against whom deadly force was used is a law enforcement officer acting in the performance of his official duties and he identifies himself in accordance with applicable law or the person using deadly force knows or reasonably should have known the person is a law enforcement officer.

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702
If you think people should have to cower in their homes while being "clearly under attack" (judge who looked at all the facts we don't have), we simply disagree.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Or they honestly believe that a gun in the hands of a homeowner is the greatest evil.

Well in all fairness, ya gotta admit that guns in the hands of people who can't fucking hit what they shoot at ain't heaven.

K.

Except he did hit what he shot at, it was just the wrong car driven by an innocent passer by.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702

It is a weird position they are taking Bama.

and they have to lie in order to make their point.

I wonder why?

It would seem that making their point is all that matters.
Or they honestly believe that a gun in the hands of a homeowner is the greatest evil.

You are at it again brains...........a dead bystander is the greatest evil.

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702

Well there really no point in arguing with 3 brits in a circle jerk... but I will make a few comments, and then let you dance around giggling over the dead boy and his families pain.

PS would have made a devastating argument, if you had actually quoted the judge referring to SYG. But you didn't. The judge did explicitly say, "he and his family were clearly under attack". But said nothing about SYG.

Lucy, I have already explained to you the difference between PPP and SYG. Perhaps you are not smart enough to comprehend, though I doubt it. SYG was not part of the case AT ALL. Not invoked by the defense, ever.

The family doesn't want this to be about national SYG issues, their statement has been quoted several times, and yes, you are free to ignore them if you like.


And Peon, You are describing what Lucy and Think Progress are doing.


Carry on with your Circle jerk now.

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702

"As for SYG not being invoked by the defence, were you unable to read the words of the defence attorney ? My link is in post #260. "


Your dishonesty here is staggering PS. Neither in your post nor in the link (nor anywhere in reality for that matter)does the defense invoke SYG.
Falsely claiming it does is a lie, as is pretending that SYG and the Castle Doctrine(codified in SC as PPP) are the same thing. So that's two knowing intentional falsehoods by you.

You can however pretend otherwise, over the families explicit wishes, which you also quoted.

again, by actually quoting someone in the case actually invoking SYG, you would demolish my position and make me look foolish.....but you can't.

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ORIGINAL: Maestro702

Its not SYG, its castle doctrine extended to a persons car and place of business.

If you think people should have to cower in their homes while being "clearly under attack" (judge who looked at all the facts we don't have), we simply disagree.

But Castle Doctrine and SYG are not the same thing. Despite people who want to mix the two over the victims families explicit wishes.

again, if on learning more facts of this case, I am wrong, I will admit it and call for Shannon to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, hopefully the death penalty.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Actually Lucy is Canadian

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

One site does imply but it also said that in the midst of all this he pulled into the driveway, I am sure that you saw that. People have followed your daughter they have shot at you and one of the cars following your daughter pulls into your driveway. Now who would ever think that car was part of the threat? It is interesting that think progress for example didn't point out that Neil unintentionally put himself in the line of fire.