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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 4:59:45 PM   
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Actually Lucy is Canadian


Lmfao.........actually she isnt.


Actually her profile says she is. But maybe she is from someplace else and just residing there.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:01:51 PM   
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FFS someone driving down the street doesnt unintentionally put himself in the line of fire. The shooter recklessly shot across a street, no matter what else was going on. The dead mans car was moving and ended up further down the road, according to photos shown to the court, so he cant have driven into the yard before being shot.

http://www.wistv.com/story/23671666/read-the-statement-from-the-niles-family

This isnt about the girls who started it, thats just your continued red herring to deflect the blame from where it belongs.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:02:27 PM   
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One site does imply but it also said that in the midst of all this he pulled into the driveway, I am sure that you saw that. People have followed your daughter they have shot at you and one of the cars following your daughter pulls into your driveway. Now who would ever think that car was part of the threat? It is interesting that think progress for example didn't point out that Neil unintentionally put himself in the line of fire.



Post the link or it didnt happen. And stop suggesting you know what I read.




You didn't post any link that said he shot Neil intentionally, until you do I am under no obligation to find that link again and post it.

PS just because you don't accept it doesn't mean it didn't happen.


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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:04:55 PM   
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One site does imply but it also said that in the midst of all this he pulled into the driveway, I am sure that you saw that. People have followed your daughter they have shot at you and one of the cars following your daughter pulls into your driveway. Now who would ever think that car was part of the threat? It is interesting that think progress for example didn't point out that Neil unintentionally put himself in the line of fire.



Post the link or it didnt happen. And stop suggesting you know what I read.




You didn't post any link that said he shot Neil intentionally, until you do I am under no obligation to find that link again and post it.


What sort of drivel are you posting now. I said he was reckless in shooting into the street, you said Niles drove into the yard.

Your bullshit claim, so it is your onus to back it up if you want to have any credibilty.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:06:53 PM   
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This isnt about the girls who started it, thats just your continued red herring to deflect the blame from where it belongs.


Absolute proof you do not understand American law.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:08:12 PM   
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Actually her profile says she is. But maybe she is from someplace else and just residing there.


Actually she is constantly telling people she is British, you just dont listen.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:12:17 PM   
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This isnt about the girls who started it, thats just your continued red herring to deflect the blame from where it belongs.


Absolute proof you do not understand American law.


Absolute bollocks, or the DA would already have charged the girls for manslaughter at least. Do you really think that after three years the police and DA wont have noticed if the girls were at fault...... Youre a cop, work it out.

And as to your other post claiming I hadnt mentioned them. I did, when replying to you days ago.

The girls didnt kill anyone, Scott did. If the girls fired a shot and killed someone you may have a point, but it will be hard to prove they were involved when they had already driven off.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:13:54 PM   
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One site does imply but it also said that in the midst of all this he pulled into the driveway, I am sure that you saw that. People have followed your daughter they have shot at you and one of the cars following your daughter pulls into your driveway. Now who would ever think that car was part of the threat? It is interesting that think progress for example didn't point out that Neil unintentionally put himself in the line of fire.



Post the link or it didnt happen. And stop suggesting you know what I read.




You didn't post any link that said he shot Neil intentionally, until you do I am under no obligation to find that link again and post it.


What sort of drivel are you posting now. I said he was reckless in shooting into the street, you said Niles drove into the yard.

Your bullshit claim, so it is your onus to back it up if you want to have any credibilty.


No you said he hit what he was aiming at until you provide a link to show that I have no obligation to find the link that said he pulled into the driveway.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:18:41 PM   
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This isnt about the girls who started it, thats just your continued red herring to deflect the blame from where it belongs.


Absolute proof you do not understand American law.


Absolute bollocks, or the DA would already have charged the girls for manslaughter at least. Do you really think that after three years the police and DA wont have noticed if the girls were at fault...... Youre a cop, work it out.

And as to your other post claiming I hadnt mentioned them. I did, when replying to you days ago.

The girls didnt kill anyone, Scott did. If the girls fired a shot and killed someone you may have a point, but it will be hard to prove they were involved when they had already driven off.


You only mention them to proclaim their innocence.
Point of logic that has clearly escaped you.
If you place such faith in the court for not prosecuting them how can you be so vehemently opposed to the same courts wisdom in granting him immunity.
I would like to know why they haven't been charged with anything, it is like they dissapared from the face of the earth.
One of many questions unanswered.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:23:11 PM   
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Youre a cop, work it out.


Talk about not paying attention virtually every time I mention working for the sheriff's office I add one of the following

A in an administrative capacity
or

B

not in a law enforcement position you are the greatest brain in the world you figure that out

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:25:39 PM   
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No you said he hit what he was aiming at until you provide a link to show that I have no obligation to find the link that said he pulled into the driveway.


I`ve posted a link which states he thought he was under attack and fired at Niles car. Now you are just fucking lying if you claim I havent. Try post #260, where it also states about SYG, something else I posted that people obviously havent been able to comprehend.


Shortly before the shooting, an SUV filled with young people who had threatened Scott's teenage daughter drove by his house and fired shots. Authorities say Smith then saw Niles' car and fired his gun from his front yard, hitting Niles, who was not armed, in the head. << Now ypou will be telling me the authorities are also wrong.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:28:06 PM   
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Youre a cop, work it out.


Talk about not paying attention virtually every time I mention working for the sheriff's office I add one of the following

A in an administrative capacity
or

B

not in a law enforcement position you are the greatest brain in the world you figure that out


You worked in an administrative capacity and cant even read a link I clearly posted.............how lovely.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:48:08 PM   
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Shortly before the shooting, an SUV filled with young people who had threatened Scott's teenage daughter drove by his house and fired shots. Authorities say Smith then saw Niles' car and fired his gun from his front yard, hitting Niles, who was not armed, in the head. << Now ypou will be telling me the authorities are also wrong.


I missed the part were they said he fired at Neil.
Oh yes that is because it isn't there.

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:49:20 PM   
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Youre a cop, work it out.


Talk about not paying attention virtually every time I mention working for the sheriff's office I add one of the following

A in an administrative capacity
or

B

not in a law enforcement position you are the greatest brain in the world you figure that out


You worked in an administrative capacity and cant even read a link I clearly posted.............how lovely.


B S

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:53:42 PM   
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No you said he hit what he was aiming at until you provide a link to show that I have no obligation to find the link that said he pulled into the driveway.


I`ve posted a link which states he thought he was under attack and fired at Niles car. Now you are just fucking lying if you claim I havent. Try post #260, where it also states about SYG, something else I posted that people obviously havent been able to comprehend.


Shortly before the shooting, an SUV filled with young people who had threatened Scott's teenage daughter drove by his house and fired shots. Authorities say Smith then saw Niles' car and fired his gun from his front yard, hitting Niles, who was not armed, in the head. << Now ypou will be telling me the authorities are also wrong.


Two cars come by shots are fired at you, you return fire, and you are to assume second car just followed your daughter home for purely innocent reasons ?

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:55:46 PM   
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This isnt about the girls who started it, thats just your continued red herring to deflect the blame from where it belongs.


Absolute proof you do not understand American law.


Who cares? I'm much more interested in how it can happen that some retarded idiot and/or fruitcake can blow away the life of an innocent man and not even be brought to court over it. Have you *any idea at all* of how insane that looks to anyone outside of the USA?

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 5:55:48 PM   
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Actually Lucy is Canadian


Lmfao.........actually she isnt.


Actually her profile says she is. But maybe she is from someplace else and just residing there.

She has dual citizenship.. she was born in the UK & moved to Canada (and has stated before she has no intention of ever leaving Canada)..

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 6:07:05 PM   
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Actually Lucy is Canadian


Lmfao.........actually she isnt.


Actually her profile says she is. But maybe she is from someplace else and just residing there.

Ive stated in politics n religion alone that Im a brit, english or british, more than 15 times in 3 years.
Im also calling you on the BS that he pulled into the driveway.
greenvill reporting.....
Smith then saw Niles’ 1992 Honda, and, believing its occupants posed a danger, fired his gun from his front yard across the street, hitting Niles in the head with a .380 bullet, killing him instantly. No evidence indicated Niles was a threat to Scott or his daughter.

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20131011/NEWS10/310110005/Immunity-granted-to-S-C-man-who-killed-unarmed-teen-in-stand-your-ground-case

WISTV says
Authorities say Smith then saw Niles' car and fired his gun from his front yard, hitting Niles, who was not armed, in the head.
and
"It's not right; it's not right," said Niles. "Just to think he took my child's life away when my baby was helping his child get home."
AND the State
Scott went to his front yard after getting his daughter inside, and fired at Niles, who was in his own car (not the SUV) and was unarmed.
The daily mail says
The court heard that Scott meant to shoot at a car that was full of teenage girls who had threatened the life of his daughter and who drove past his house and fired shots.
Shot dead: 17-year-old Darrell Andre Niles was shot dead by Shannon Anthony Scott in April 2010
However, Scott returned fire and instead of hitting the girls, who shot Niles in the head.

The state , who has more info than any other

http://www.thestate.com/2013/08/16/2924473/is-shooting-a-bystander-in-south.html
According to all the evidence in a pre-trial hearing on the issue, Niles was across a street and in no way threatening Scott when the teen took a .380 bullet to the head in April 2010 near Scott’s house off Beltline Boulevard near Two Notch Road. He died almost instantly.

If Murphy grants immunity to Scott it would be “be the first time any state in this Union” has granted immunity for killing an innocent bystander in a Stand Your Ground case, 5th Circuit Assistant Solicitor April Sampson told Murphy.

“If this law were to be applied the way (Scott) wants to apply it, he could shoot a 4-year-old playing in her front yard and still be immune from prosecution,” Sampson said.

In an initial interview that night, Scott didn’t give officers his name, nor did he tell officers he had fired a gun that night, Sampson said.

And Sampson depicted Scott as a man primed to kill. “He had a sign in his window saying ‘Fight Crime – Shoot First.’”

But Rutherford said, “All we know is that Mr. Scott stood there in his yard, the only thing between his children and people intending to do them harm.”


http://www.thestate.com/2013/10/09/3029466/exclusive-father-not-charged-in.html

The case involved the 2010 shooting of Darrell Niles, 17, a Keenan High School student and basketball player, who was across the street in a car when Shannon Scott, then 33, fired his handgun.
Shortly before, an SUV filled with youths who had been threatening his 15-year-old daughter drove by his house and they fired shots, according to testimony in the case.
Smith then saw Niles’ 1992 Honda, and, believing its occupants posed a danger, fired his gun from his front yard across the street, hitting Niles in the head with a .380 bullet, killing him instantly. No evidence indicated Niles was a threat to Scott or his daughter.
During the hearing, Murphy heard conflicting testimony as to whether anyone fired at Scott while he was in his front yard that night.


http://www.thestate.com/2010/04/22/1254758_suspect-arrested-in-teens-shooting.html
Shannon Anthony Scott has been charged with murder, the Columbia Police Department reported. He turned himself in to investigators at police headquarters Wednesday afternoon.

Seventeen-year-old Darrell Andre Niles was found shot to death in his Honda Accord at 2:30 a.m. Sunday in the 1400 block of Bonner Avenue, the police said.

Scott is accused of firing several rounds from a handgun, hitting Niles in the head with one bullet, police said.

It was the fourth time since February that a young man has been found shot to death in a car in Columbia.


now where are your links/....
I have a couple more to show...seeing as you really do not seem to have all your facts lined up, IM really wanting to see where he was sposedly parked in the driveway.
you and powergamez have a huge lack of facts at your disposal and its really not helping your argument.



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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 6:08:04 PM   
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Have you *any idea at all* of how insane that looks to anyone outside of the USA?

LOL.. there are lots of things that go on in the US that meet that description.. this whole debt ceiling thing.. the govt shutdown thing.. I mean, how sane is one side offering to extend the debt thing for 6 weeks when ya know dam well its gonna happen all over again at the end of that 6 weeks? I have sorta stopped posting in P&R cuz its pointless & a waste of online ink cuz the US just doesn't get it & never will..

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RE: Innocent bystander killed in SYG case - 10/16/2013 6:12:39 PM   
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And Sampson depicted Scott as a man primed to kill. “He had a sign in his window saying ‘Fight Crime – Shoot First.’”


Such an incredible leap in logic as to defy belief.

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