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bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 4:56:37 PM   
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America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?
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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 5:06:22 PM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 5:11:00 PM   
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< Message edited by deathtothepixies -- 10/25/2013 5:13:27 PM >

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 5:13:19 PM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.

No, what's dumb is getting caught doing that stuff.

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 5:51:14 PM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.

No, what's dumb is getting caught doing that stuff.

No they are both dumb unless She was saying things she wanted other countries to "find"

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 8:30:42 PM   
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I view intelligence gathering as the next Cold War. Maybe it isn't so bad for everyone to at least think the U.S. is watching everything even if we aren't.

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 8:49:23 PM   
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I view intelligence gathering as the next Cold War. Maybe it isn't so bad for everyone to at least think the U.S. is watching everything even if we aren't.

It would scare me if we didn't


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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 8:55:38 PM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.


Well, there you have it. It is her fault Obama's NSA listened in on her phone calls. Of course. Why would we think anything else?

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 10:18:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.


Well, there you have it. It is her fault Obama's NSA listened in on her phone calls. Of course. Why would we think anything else?


I always knew it, she is a German after all. Hitler was German. She should have known the NSA was listening. Trusting another trade/business/global partner. What a pathetic naive lady. She is a nazi too remember. She was from Germany.

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 10:42:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.


Well, there you have it. It is her fault Obama's NSA listened in on her phone calls. Of course. Why would we think anything else?

Do you really think the German intelligence services are not at least trying to listen in on the President's phone calls?

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 10:43:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.



If the President threw babies into the Potomac, I am sure the President Obama Collarme Protection Axis would come on here and state he was teaching them to swim.

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/25/2013 11:37:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.


Well, there you have it. It is her fault Obama's NSA listened in on her phone calls. Of course. Why would we think anything else?

Do you really think the German intelligence services are not at least trying to listen in on the President's phone calls?


Based upon what evidence other than "because someone said because I said so".

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/26/2013 4:31:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.


Well, there you have it. It is her fault Obama's NSA listened in on her phone calls. Of course. Why would we think anything else?


I always knew it, she is a German after all. Hitler was German. She should have known the NSA was listening. Trusting another trade/business/global partner. What a pathetic naive lady. She is a nazi too remember. She was from Germany.



How do you know she is a nazi?

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/26/2013 4:50:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.


No disrespect Ken, but what would be dumb would be to suspect that there are 100% secure phones in this day and age.

Pixie makes a good point though, the loss of goodwill eventually reaches a tipping point which outweighs any US benefits from these types of phone taps.

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/26/2013 4:52:49 AM   
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How do you know she is a nazi?


Whooshhhhhh........ Is it a plane, is it a bird, it certainly wasnt Superman ?

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/26/2013 5:24:19 AM   
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I always knew it, she is a German after all. Hitler was German.... She is a nazi too remember. She was from Germany.

Utter crap!!!
Being German doesn't mean you are a Nazi.

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How do you know she is a nazi?

Whooshhhhhh........ Is it a plane, is it a bird, it certainly wasnt Superman ?

Did you miss the sarcasm font PS??

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/26/2013 7:16:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.



If the President threw babies into the Potomac, I am sure the President Obama Collarme Protection Axis would come on here and state he was teaching them to swim.



And the Collarme Nutsacker Protection Nazi Party would make it up if he didn't and get it into Breitbart and Boortz and WND and DailyCaller, and Faux Nuze and other nutsacker asswipe spreading propaganda machines, and pretend it was real, so they could look as fucking stupid to the real world as possible.

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/26/2013 7:26:55 AM   
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If the President threw babies into the Potomac, I am sure the President Obama Collarme Protection Axis would come on here and state he was teaching them to swim.



And the Collarme Nutsacker Protection Nazi Party would make it up if he didn't and get it into Breitbart and Boortz and WND and DailyCaller, and Faux Nuze and other nutsacker asswipe spreading propaganda machines, and pretend it was real, so they could look as fucking stupid to the real world as possible.

The funny - or truly sad - thing is that you are both correct.


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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/26/2013 7:30:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.


No disrespect Ken, but what would be dumb would be to suspect that there are 100% secure phones in this day and age.

Pixie makes a good point though, the loss of goodwill eventually reaches a tipping point which outweighs any US benefits from these types of phone taps.




And our SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled that there can be no expectation of privacy in electronic communications, so it is the law of our land, embedded now in our constitution (it was a nutsacker SCOTUS that ruled that, btw) as it were.

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RE: bugging Angela Merkel's phone - 10/26/2013 8:10:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064

America doesn't have too many friends around the world, this isn't going to help is it?

Everybody with the means spies on everybody. And that definitely includes Germany. If their PM was making calls over a non secure phone then she really is dumb.



If the President threw babies into the Potomac, I am sure the President Obama Collarme Protection Axis would come on here and state he was teaching them to swim.

You've claimed in the past that you worked at NSA. Are you really saying even back then we didn't spy on everyone we possibly could.

Keep in mind that I was stationed in DC at roughly the same time and already know the answer.

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