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Bullshit. The only time I say someone is racist in regards to Obama is when it is ridiculous irrational stuff like this.

How do you know this has anything to do with his race, Ken?

Look at the quality of individuals that make up the Tea Party. Most of them are VERY racist. They hate those Mexican illegal immigrants and think nothing of Germany or English illegal immigrants. Now WHY is that? Why is it that the Klan votes Tea Party and not Democrat? How many black people are in the Tea Party compared to the Democrats? An how often does the typical Tea Partier say "I'm not racist, I have black friends!"?

Uh, there are actually quite a few African American Tea Party members and candidate.

Lets compared the number of blacks that voted Democrat in the last election to the number that voted for EITHER a Republican or Tea Partier. Which do you think is greater? The number of blacks that vote Democrat far outweighed those that voted for either Republicans or Tea Partiers. The evidence is not hard to obtain with a simple goggle search! Michael Steele was a RNC person and a Republican. And he failed in the RNC. Not because he is black, but due to his performance. The President is attacked BECAUSE he is black, NOT because of his performance. Or are you going to argue to me that conservatives rate the President's performance in the same 'fair' and 'honest' manner as all the Republicans who shut the government down not to recently ago?

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First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:

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Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual

The truth finally comes out

It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.

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I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.

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First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:

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Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual

The truth finally comes out

It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.

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I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.

No, it's true...it's a well known fact, he's a pathological homosexual, masturbator. It's been published on the internet. His cocaine use is rampant.

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First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:

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Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual

The truth finally comes out

It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.

Source

I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.

No, it's true...it's a well known fact, he's a pathological homosexual, masturbator. It's been published on the internet. His cocaine use is rampant.

You are right, and I am god. I hereby grant you the divine right to have 400 wives and 2 concubines.

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Bullshit. The only time I say someone is racist in regards to Obama is when it is ridiculous irrational stuff like this.

How do you know this has anything to do with his race, Ken?

Look at the quality of individuals that make up the Tea Party. Most of them are VERY racist. They hate those Mexican illegal immigrants and think nothing of Germany or English illegal immigrants. Now WHY is that? Why is it that the Klan votes Tea Party and not Democrat? How many black people are in the Tea Party compared to the Democrats? An how often does the typical Tea Partier say "I'm not racist, I have black friends!"?

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Actually I did not ignore them.

One was a right wing anti gay group, so it would be hard to blame the liberals for that accusation, the second accusation is allegedly from a group that seems to have no internet footprint other than the article you linked to, and as far as Hilary Clinton, are you seriously trying to say the liberals are making this claim?

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I know how everyone gets excited about change.

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I would be neither surprised nor particularly interested if he had had a fling with a guy at some point in his life. However, we have only had one gay president, and his name was James Buchanan, a Democrat from Pennsylvania. I don't think that gay people would want to boast about this, though: Buchanan was an incompetent dumbfuck.

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Actually I did not ignore them.
One was a right wing anti gay group, so it would be hard to blame the liberals for that accusation, the second accusation is allegedly from a group that seems to have no internet footprint other than the article you linked to, and as far as Hilary Clinton, are you seriously trying to say the liberals are making this claim?

I was pointing out that Obama was not the first president to be called gay and showing how fucking stupid it is to claim this time it's because he is black. But that seems to be the theme for BO. As much as I hate the idea that Hillary might actually make it in that office herself it will be nice to not hear "you only hate him because he is black" every time anyone says something bad about our dear leader. Of course at that point everyone who says anything about her will automatically be labeled a chauvinist and we will hear "you only hate her because she is a women" for the next 4 years. But at least it will be a change and I know how everyone gets excited about change.

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With regards to " Obama care," all parties could have joined together to work up a better plan,
you know, do the job they All got hired to do. Work together to improve America as a whole.
For the folks against " Mandatory health care insurance," If we must carry homeowners, auto, and now renters insurance, if we own, rent, or lease these things,
what is the exact problem with health care insurance?

The Federal Government is forcing you to carry homeowners insurance, renters insurance and car insurance?

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I objected to candidate Obama because he's a socialist. I also always said that he seemed like a decent guy that was just of a different mind set and I didn't think socialism was the way this country needed to go.

You don't have the vaguest idea what a socialist is.

I dare you to name one thing the President has done that fits with a socialist ideology.

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uncontrollable lying.

the "uncontrollable lying" I believe, he became a politician after all..

I think the "disease" in America is "sheepleism" and that spans the entire political spectrum..

here is one example.. its a vid of a guy easily getting sheeple to sign a petition to support Obama's endorsement of Karl Marx as a Presidential candidate in the 2016 election..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0azojPPRhw Communist Karl Marx Endorsed by Obama as the Next President?

Mark Dice is producing a series of videos in which he approaches strangers in public places in the US and asks them to sign a prepared petition that he is holding. Invariably, Mark behaves in a polite, congenial manner and makes a clear effort to appear as harmless as possible.

In each video, Mark's approach is the same. He chooses a large, open public space, dresses casually and hands his clipboard to someone who is passing and politely asks for his signature in support of a concept that is ludicrous. He does this with a straight face and always behaves pleasantly. Once the passer-by has taken the clipboard and is looking for the place to sign, Mark describes details (again, in a pleasant manner) of what is being proposed, such as,

"We're just gathering signatures to show support for Obama and his communist agenda, so we're gonna get Karl Marx on the 2016 ballot and continue the Marxist takeover."

Invariably, the prospective signers seem not to take in the significance of what Mark is saying. They seem to be focused more on where they are supposed to sign. No matter how many horrific details Mark offers the signers to provoke them to think about what they are signing, nothing seems to sink in.

Of course, we recognize that the video may contain only those people who were actually empty-headed enough to sign, and, surely, there were others who refused. However, this does not alter the fact that so many people simply "go along," seemingly oblivious to what they are signing.

Surely, for any reader of this publication, these videos will be both entertaining and exasperating, as they demonstrate the stupidity and complacency of so many people.

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Boi, first, half the country? May I point out that a majority voted for Obama twice?

May I also point out that the majority of conservatives in this country believe that what Fox, Beck and Rush say is the Gospel truth?

May I also point out that when FOX or beck and rush are proven wrong, independently by organizations that fact check both sides, it is always claimed to be liberal misinformation?

My point being, is simple, if a group does not condemn the statements that are clearly absurd and without merit, or actions that border on bigotry, then guilt by association applies.

This is true for the Germans that did not support Hitler, but did nothing to stop him, the man who stood and watched a mob of KKK members drag a black man out of his house and hang him while protesting he is not racist.

Ever time something like this comes up, is it better to attack the one who posted it, or address the fallacies of the people that present it as the truth?

I dont care if half the country disagrees with me, considering that I am against a lot on the liberal side of the fence, I would say more than half. However, consider the actions of the conservatives in congress, they have voted how many times to repeal the Affordable Care Act? They shutdown the government when they could not get Obama to agree to defunding the Affordable Care Act.

I have heard that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. How many times does the conservatives have to try and defund or repeal Obama care before they figure out it is not going to happen as long as he or a democrat is in office?

As for the liberals, when the hell are they going to figure out if you raise taxes to cut the deficit, you cannot increase spending in other areas, it defeats the purpose.

Fact Obama care is a clusterfuck.

Fact, Obama went to congress and told them to come up with a health care plan and he would sign it, instead of putting what he wanted in some sort of intelligent argument backed by medical and other professionals in the health field, thus making Obama an idiot.

Fact what Obama said he wanted in his campaign is not what we got, it is not even close to what we got.

Fact attacking Obama on place of birth, calling him a gay coke head, or anything that is not even remotely connected with his programs is just stupid, if not insane.

It makes as much sense as the arguments that a Bush ancestor stole the skull of Geronimo from the grave on the Fort Sill reservation to put in the Skull and Bones temple or whatever it is called, or bringing up the fact that prior to our entry in WW2, the Bush family had dealings with Nazi Germany. None of that had a damn thing to do with Bush's presidency or anything else. Neither did the fact that he was a recovering alcoholic.

That crap was as insane as this crap is.

So sorry I suppose I should have said slightly less than 1/2 but I didn't realize you were going to start nitpicking. The rest of your post reads like an excuse to be a bigot. Very similar to other excuses I have heard on why we should hate blacks and gays. Still not changing my opinion. If you want to form an opinion of all those people based on the idiots in congress I am not going to change your mind. so I guess this discussion is over.

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The only people I can honestly say I hate, is my first wife's family, terminally stupid people, and the idiot drivers who do not know how to use turn signals, who cross four lanes of traffic to hit an exit that they have already missed, and the guys that design cars that need either the steering bar between front tires removed to change a starter, or one engine mount to change the starter.

Or that sick son of a bitch that developed the GM Quadrojet carburetor.

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With the article I posted, I was pointing out that these sort of claims seem to pop up on what are considered "mainstream" conservative sites. The same sites that carried the Palin claims of death panels, Beck and FOX news comments of Obama being a Nazi and other half truths and out right lies that seem to pop out of conservative mouths for what ever reason.

And using those statements in order to paint almost 1/2 the country as mentally ill, Yea I got that.

I really do like the technique of turning the argument to attacks on the poster rather than the issue at hand, which is simply, even with the fact Obama is a spineless president who will not stand up for the principles he claimed to have in campaign speeches, conservative talking heads keep pulling up bullshit like this in an effort to discredit him.

If the issue at hand is how incompetent Obama is why did you label the thread like you did?

Face facts, Obama has done more to discredit himself, his programs, than any one else. Considering that he cannot run for another term, what is the use for coming up with this crap?
To get people to hate one side and vote for the other. I am surprised you didn't recognize this tactic. Both side use it all the fucking time.

To continue making personal attacks on a man that is essentially a lame duck, fits the definition of "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."
yes and yet we still have some who bitch about reagan and he's been gone for years.

Granted I was not a political science major, but it would make a hell of a lot more sense to start going after the most probably democrats who might be in the presidential race in 2014.
I am pretty sure someone is working on that.

But hey, in the last few years, the GOP has done a good job of alienating ethnic groups, women, the LGBT community among others, while democrats have done a wonderful job of alienating gun owners.
Well I can't speak for others but personally I am much madder at the left for pretending to care about gays than I am for the right for being honest about it. (note I am talking about parties here, not individual people. I have never been stupid enough to buy into the lie that the problem is only on one side)

If the GOP continues this bullshit course of action, the odds are heavily in favor of another democrat being elected president next year, along with the risk of losing the house again, and losing the gains in the senate.
Funny that you see it in the GOP but miss it in the left.

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Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual

The truth finally comes out

It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.

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The only people I can honestly say I hate, is my first wife's family, terminally stupid people, and the idiot drivers who do not know how to use turn signals, who cross four lanes of traffic to hit an exit that they have already missed, and the guys that design cars that need either the steering bar between front tires removed to change a starter, or one engine mount to change the starter.

Or that sick son of a bitch that developed the GM Quadrojet carburetor.

You date yourself with that Quadrajet fiasco. The reason for it was properly tuned (good luck) it was the best on HP/MPG. They soon realized as I did years later, the Holley was about the easiest carb to work on tune for power.