What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (Full Version)

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What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex?


Once tied up, we almost always have sex
  43% (43)
Once tied up, we sometimes have sex
  26% (26)
Once tied up, we rarely have sex
  11% (11)
Bondage is foreplay - we have sex after
  11% (11)
Bondage destroys the mood
  3% (3)
Sex is never involved with bondage
  4% (4)


Total Votes : 98
(last vote on : 1/11/2014 8:34:57 AM)
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pompeii -> What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 5:14:33 PM)

What good is helpless bondage if the Top doesn't have sexual intercourse (in some fashion) with the sub?

We were having an intellectual discourse about sexual intercourse, when the subject came up that one enjoyed (primarily Kinbaku style) bondage for the sheer sake of bondage beauty and helplessness, while the other found that taking pure sexual advantage of the now-helpless submissive was their key focus of the bondage preliminary activity.

Given that these are two sides of the same coin, I ask:
Q: Once the submissive is helplessly bound, what do you prefer next?

Note: The term "sex" here, is defined as penetration, at least for male/female or male/male interaction (I'm not sure what the definition should be for female/female relationships).

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MistressDarkArt -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 5:20:37 PM)

For my partners and me, sex is not the end-goal of bondage (though it sometimes happens.) Surrender is. As far as what I do with him when that's achieved, it might be sexually related but just as often it's a prelude to utter relaxation and a trip to a very, very deep place I might not be able to access without it. They don't call me Dark Art for nothing. [8D]




UllrsIshtar -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 5:24:25 PM)

Most of the bondage I like makes penetration hard, if not entirely impossible.

We usually have sex after kink play though, but rarely during.




MsLadySue -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 5:33:11 PM)

Sex isn't necessarily part of all D/s relationships. I enjoy doing rope bondage but sex has nothing to do with it.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 5:34:15 PM)

Wait...I thought the point of bondage was so the sub can't get away while I do painful things to them. What does sex have to do with that?

Doin' it rong. Again. Crap.

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LadyAnne68 -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 5:52:38 PM)

I don't have sex with my slaves...ever. (I have a fuck buddy for that.)
Like some of the others have said, bondage is about restraint and control.






DesFIP -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 6:15:50 PM)

It's rarely piv because most ties don't permit that. But there are orgasms on my part, happy knots. And blowjobs for him. So I count that as sex.




Onerat1 -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 6:18:07 PM)

I have no sex with my kink partner. Never did. I get tied mostly so I do not move when receiving pain. Also to keep things different as not always tied.




littlewonder -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 6:21:13 PM)

I like being bound without sex simply because it's relaxing for me.

He likes it for different reasons. Sometimes as a way to reward me. Sometimes, to be a sadist when he does it in a way that is painful. Other times so he can have some quiet time to himself. Other times just because he can and he likes the dominion over me and likes to show that to me.

It doesn't always lead to sex.




SoulAlloy -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 8:42:44 PM)

I like bondage for a lot of reasons, complete surrender, the fact I'm a born wriggler when having nasty things to me, and yeah sex in bondage is great lol.

I love the extreme bondage for the peace it gives, it's very relaxing. I couldn't really answer your poll as it always varied when I was in a relationship as to what would happen.




petitespot -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 9:04:28 PM)

Bondage was always foreplay. There was always sex involved and always pain.
If I saw the ropes come out I knew I was going to get hit hard and fucked even harder.




ResidentSadist -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 11:32:01 PM)

If I go through all that work to tie a girl up, you can bet your sweet Bippy I'm gonna' fuck them once they are helpless . . .








. . . unless it's a robbery and there isn't enough time.




SailingBum -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/17/2013 11:40:00 PM)

Yea pretty much what he said

BadOne




tammystarm -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/18/2013 12:06:30 AM)

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Arturas -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/18/2013 12:08:33 AM)

quote:

Q: Once the submissive is helplessly bound, what do you prefer next?



Spank warmup with my hand starting with light spanks and then progressing to harder slaps and then once she is warmer and red I begin with the medium flogger. The flogger will be in use at least four times with the last being the climax of a 2.5 hour bondage session interrupted with hot wax, Wartenberg wheel "stimulation" and ice torture in special points of her body contrasted with feathers. At times while helpless she is penetrated anally, vaginally and orally by a dido, fisting, fingers, ice and also I have intercourse several times during that session.




MasterCaneman -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/18/2013 12:45:11 PM)

What Resident Sadist said, at least for the most part. It really depended on what the particular dynamics of my partner at the time was looking for. The majority were looking for kinky sex, and they got it, but I've had a couple whose main vibe was the act of being in bondage alone. They chose me because I'd established a reputation among the players in the circle I ran with as being mindful of their limits, and not thinking with my dick.

One in particular comes to mind. She was an infrequent player who'd come out maybe once or twice a month. Married and otherwise faithful to her husband, she had this 'need' to experience being held prisoner for a spell. Just that, no sex or any physical abuse, just being tied up, chained, or otherwise restrained, fully clothed, no exceptions. I could (and usually did) have another playmate during our sessions that I did have relations with while she was sitting, lying, or standing there. For some reason fathomable only to her, she just wanted to be held captive by someone who was both scary and unthreatening (if that makes any sense). I agreed to it because hey, I got to have a living, breathing prop I could play off of with whoever else I was shtupping at the time.

It was a bit weird at first, but for the time we played together it seemed to work out okay for her. And most of my other partners didn't seem to mind. In fact, it kind of turned them on to be sceneing with a dude that had another woman in chains on the other side of the room. She liked it very restrictive, too, perhaps a commentary on her Mormon upbringing and lifestyle in the daylight world. She was turned onto me by one of my past partners who she'd approached at one of the bars I went to. Again, a weird scene, but a memorable one. We lost touch after I had one of my epiphanies and bowed out of the local scene to get my head on straight, but I can only say it makes for some interesting memories.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/18/2013 12:57:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

Married and otherwise faithful to her husband, she had this 'need' to experience being held prisoner for a spell. Just that, no sex or any physical abuse, just being tied up, chained, or otherwise restrained, fully clothed, no exceptions.


I don't find that weird at all. I have the same need for physical restrictions you describe her having, and could very easily find fulfillment for that need by just being restrained, fully clothed, without any other form of play.

In fact, doing just that is my absolute favorite way of playing period. Even though it doesn't happen that often because the Top usually wants to play once they've got a restrained subject at hand.

However, my need for being restrained supersedes all other intimate needs I have of a partner, including sex.




VideoAdminChi -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/18/2013 12:59:35 PM)

FR,

I added a category after reading the comments.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/18/2013 1:00:36 PM)

I'd change my vote if I could from "rarely" to "afterwards".




KnightofMists -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/18/2013 1:11:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

Wait...I thought the point of bondage was so the sub can't get away while I do painful things to them. What does sex have to do with that?

Doin' it rong. Again. Crap.

[sm=doh.gif]




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