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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 11/30/2013 6:46:17 PM   
EdBowie


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Status: offline 		So you were only 'technically lying', is that it?  And you are pulling your definition of sarcasm from the same orifice as your definition of PTSD?

How about we just go on appearances... namely, that I never posted either of the things you just got caught lying about, and ignore anything you say that is a similar lie?


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Ed, Ed, Ed; that's just special, ed.

First, you:
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I must have missed the part where George's history of outre' behavior was preceded by a period of trauma... when did that happen?


Then, me:
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You missed the part where he was assaulted, forced to kill a man, spent months in jail, was the target of "wanted dead or alive" posters, stood trial for murder, and was deserted by his wife?


You, again, sadly:
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I asked at what point in Zimmerman's long history of very similar outbursts, did he meet the pre-conditions for PTSD... I never said there weren't any.


Technically, I suppose you never did say there weren't any, only that you had missed them.
For those that understand sarcasm however (such as, oh I don't know: me, you clearly denied their existence.


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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 11/30/2013 6:49:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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BTW PTSD has well known and well understood symptoms and his behavior is not PTSD.


You mean like:

"excessive emotions; problems relating to others, including feeling or showing affection; difficulty falling or staying asleep; irritability; outbursts of anger; difficulty concentrating; and being "jumpy" or easily startled. "

Yeah, it doesn't sound like any of that could apply to him.

Want to discuss the behavior of people receiving credible death threats????


(Sourse: WebMD)


July 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and accused of resisting an officer with violence near the University of Central Florida campus after a scuffle with police. The charges were eventually dropped after Zimmerman entered an alcohol education program.

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/past-legal-problems-george-zimmerman-20928742

So apparently GZ suffers an entirely different form of PTSD: Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder?
That explains an awful lot.


3 domestic partners have now accused him of being violent with them.
I realise that all 3 could be fabrications.
However: the quack, quack, waddle, waddle rule probably applies here.
But as long as he is only violent because he is stressed out, it should be okay.
After all, his being a victim of stress should excuse any and all bad behaviors.


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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 11/30/2013 8:00:16 PM   
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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 11/30/2013 8:09:36 PM   
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So apparently GZ suffers an entirely different form of PTSD: Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder?


So apparently he got drunk.

I only remember two incidents... one where his (ex) wife accused him of, among other things, hitting her father in the face( strange how it left no marks. Strange how the complaint was dropped). and this one ( strange that Samantha and her mother were shopping for a paid national tv interview three weeks earlier. Strange that they just could not drum up enough interest to cash in).

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 11/30/2013 8:32:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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BTW PTSD has well known and well understood symptoms and his behavior is not PTSD.


You mean like:

"excessive emotions; problems relating to others, including feeling or showing affection; difficulty falling or staying asleep; irritability; outbursts of anger; difficulty concentrating; and being "jumpy" or easily startled. "

Yeah, it doesn't sound like any of that could apply to him.

Want to discuss the behavior of people receiving credible death threats????


(Sourse: WebMD)


July 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and accused of resisting an officer with violence near the University of Central Florida campus after a scuffle with police. The charges were eventually dropped after Zimmerman entered an alcohol education program.

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/past-legal-problems-george-zimmerman-20928742

So apparently GZ suffers an entirely different form of PTSD: Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder?
That explains an awful lot.


3 domestic partners have now accused him of being violent with them.
I realise that all 3 could be fabrications.
However: the quack, quack, waddle, waddle rule probably applies here.
But as long as he is only violent because he is stressed out, it should be okay.
After all, his being a victim of stress should excuse any and all bad behaviors.



Could it be Post Trayvon Disorder Syndrome?

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 1:12:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

So apparently GZ suffers an entirely different form of PTSD: Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder?


So apparently he got drunk.

I only remember two incidents... one where his (ex) wife accused him of, among other things, hitting her father in the face( strange how it left no marks. Strange how the complaint was dropped). and this one ( strange that Samantha and her mother were shopping for a paid national tv interview three weeks earlier. Strange that they just could not drum up enough interest to cash in).


Well, sure, being drunk is a great excuse for bad behavior and not needing to have any personal responsibility.

As for the 3rd incident, it was in the link within my last post:
—August 2005, Zimmerman's former fiancee filed for a restraining order against him, alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman responded by requesting a restraining order against her. Both requests were granted. No criminal charges were filed.

Quack, quack, waddle, waddle... .



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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 1:15:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

BTW PTSD has well known and well understood symptoms and his behavior is not PTSD.


You mean like:

"excessive emotions; problems relating to others, including feeling or showing affection; difficulty falling or staying asleep; irritability; outbursts of anger; difficulty concentrating; and being "jumpy" or easily startled. "

Yeah, it doesn't sound like any of that could apply to him.




quote:

ORINGINAL: angelikaJ
So apparently GZ suffers an entirely different form of PTSD: Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder?
That explains an awful lot.






quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
Could it be Post Trayvon Disorder Syndrome?




There is a reason why you are one of my favorite posters.

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< Message edited by angelikaJ -- 12/1/2013 1:18:37 AM >

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 5:09:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

It's pitiful when a man cannot own up to his mistakes when the pixels are there for all to see...



Dont be so hard on yourself dude.

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 5:48:30 AM   
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Quack, quack, waddle, waddle...


Well, yes; at first glance there is a lot there.

But there's also a lot on the other side.
1. He had some relationship problems 7 years before the altercation with TM. Bottom line: no charges were filed.
2. He was accused 7 years later of assault in a divorce situation. Note the hiatus. Bottom line: no charges were filed.
3. Now he is accused of assault, again, by a woman shopping for a paid national TV interview. There is no evidence of the assault.

I think the presumption of innocence applies.

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 9:19:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

So apparently GZ suffers an entirely different form of PTSD: Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder?


So apparently he got drunk.

I only remember two incidents... one where his (ex) wife accused him of, among other things, hitting her father in the face( strange how it left no marks. Strange how the complaint was dropped). and this one ( strange that Samantha and her mother were shopping for a paid national tv interview three weeks earlier. Strange that they just could not drum up enough interest to cash in).


Actually there is a police photo of showing the a small bruise on the father nose. Also a video of Zimmerman breaking the computer. As to Samantha she was interviewed by the news. It is also common in domestic issues charges are not press. Nothing strange.

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 9:23:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

Quack, quack, waddle, waddle...


Well, yes; at first glance there is a lot there.

But there's also a lot on the other side.
1. He had some relationship problems 7 years before the altercation with TM. Bottom line: no charges were filed.
2. He was accused 7 years later of assault in a divorce situation. Note the hiatus. Bottom line: no charges were filed.
3. Now he is accused of assault, again, by a woman shopping for a paid national TV interview. There is no evidence of the assault.

I think the presumption of innocence applies.


You forgot to mention the restraining order on your Hero. The assault on the law enforcement Officer happened 5 years before. Oh Zimmerman also went shopping for TV interviews he got one on Fox News but Barbra Walters turned him down, he wanted to much. So the pot does call the kettle black.

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 9:26:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ






quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

BTW PTSD has well known and well understood symptoms and his behavior is not PTSD.


You mean like:

"excessive emotions; problems relating to others, including feeling or showing affection; difficulty falling or staying asleep; irritability; outbursts of anger; difficulty concentrating; and being "jumpy" or easily startled. "

Yeah, it doesn't sound like any of that could apply to him.




quote:

ORINGINAL: angelikaJ
So apparently GZ suffers an entirely different form of PTSD: Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder?
That explains an awful lot.






quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
Could it be Post Trayvon Disorder Syndrome?




There is a reason why you are one of my favorite posters.

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As I have stated many times GZ openly admitted he is diagnosis with Attention Defecate Hyper Active disorder and takes two highly dangerous drugs for it. All are related to violent behavior.

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 9:34:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ






quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

BTW PTSD has well known and well understood symptoms and his behavior is not PTSD.


You mean like:

"excessive emotions; problems relating to others, including feeling or showing affection; difficulty falling or staying asleep; irritability; outbursts of anger; difficulty concentrating; and being "jumpy" or easily startled. "

Yeah, it doesn't sound like any of that could apply to him.




quote:

ORINGINAL: angelikaJ
So apparently GZ suffers an entirely different form of PTSD: Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder?
That explains an awful lot.






quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
Could it be Post Trayvon Disorder Syndrome?




There is a reason why you are one of my favorite posters.

edit: fix quote boxes



(It really is a gift....and a curse).

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 9:42:23 AM   
Nosathro


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

FFS, you should know that the police and prosecutors dont press cases without some kind of evidence. Its a bit fucking stupid to suggest otherwise, even for you.


That's amazingly ignorant, even for you.
Ever heard of Mike Nifong? He was disbarred, you know.
How about Angela Corey?
Famed liberal Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz thinks she should be disbarred.

And that's just high-profile prosecutors, not just every dumbshit redneck cop that, in the words of He Who You Admire The Most "acted stupidly". Hate to break it to you, but cops actually are in some circumstances required to make arrests without evidence.
Prosecution should be a different matter, but is sometimes not (see above); and in any case you're changing the subject and jumping the gun.
Zimmerman has not been prosecuted.


Currently Zimmerman is under investigation and is charge with a crime he is out on bail remember, I guess not. Angela Corey has never been charged with anything nor disciplined by the bar. As to Dershowitz he believes the government should torture children. As to lawyers being disbarred they can apply for reinstatement. Some famous lawyer who are disbarred Richard Nixion, Spiro Agnew, Jack Thompson, and F. Lee Bailey (barred in Florida)

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 4:14:03 PM   
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Actually there is a police photo of showing the a small bruise on the father nose. Also a video of Zimmerman breaking the computer.


Where? Because I sought and did not find.....

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Oh Zimmerman also went shopping for TV interviews


No serious person can fail to see the apples/oranges nature of this ridiculous comparison

After weeks and weeks of vilification in the national news, GZ wanted an interview to clear his name.
Shellie Sluttie and her mommy wanted an interview for their 15 minutes and whatever money they could scrounge out of it.

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 4:15:05 PM   
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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/1/2013 4:46:39 PM   
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The assault on the law enforcement Officer happened 5 years before.


Five years before what?

The alleged assault on a police officer occurred in 2005; the altercation with TM in 2012.
Looks like 7 years to me unless you want to look up the months and then quibble.

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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/2/2013 2:47:32 AM   
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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/2/2013 4:06:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		First, personal integrity has nothing to do with an assault charge. Second, anyone can get in a fight, including with a cop. We have all seen any number of videos where people charged with resisting arrest or assault on a police officer did little or nothing more than verbally challenge their authority. I myself have been there. Although I was somehow not charged, four of my friends were charged with multiple felonies in an altercation that resulted in an IA investigation and the dismissal of three officers. All charges against my friends were dropped.

As were the charges against GZ.

According to you guys, he's guilty if he is accused, guilty if he was accused but the charges were dropped, and guilty if he was tried and acquitted....



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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
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RE: George Zimmerman Arrested - 12/2/2013 4:42:33 AM   
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First, personal integrity has nothing to do with an assault charge
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I expect there's some personal belief involved, but I don't have any issue equating getting charged with assault as an indictment on one's personal integrity. Not at all.

quote:

Second, anyone can get in a fight, including with a cop.


Perhaps, but in my experience going to all sorts of places with all sorts of people, I haven't gotten in a fight, and certainly not with cops performing their duties. Am I a behaviouraly outlier? I don't know.



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