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check your privilege at the door. Not everyone was raised with the same opportunities as you were. Having good parents, role models, and educational systems is easy to take for granted until you don't have it. Try to put yourselves in someone else's shoes for once!

Jesus fucking christ. I cannot believe I actually have to give this speech on a BDSM bbs of all places, but there you have it.

I have no privilege...

I was orphaned at birth, left at the hospital by my mom
Went to one of the shittiest schools in PA
Grew up Poor...
Dropped out of HS at 16 to get a full time job to be able to have shoes that actually fit and didnt have holes. I got into a cyber school to finish my hsd while working 2 full time jobs

Was smart enough to realize id be like my foster parents if i didnt use the brain i have. Got into computers and now at 24 i make over 70k a year

Sorry but Get a fucking job, have a job and cant make ends meet,,, Get a skill that deserves better pay... Running a barcode over a scanner doesnt deserve more then 7.25 an hour... putting an item on a shelf doesnt either... Want to make more then 7.25 an hour... BE worth more then it...

Your not supposed to feed a family of 4 on 25k a year... if you cant support yourself why the fuck are you having children that I have to support because YOU havent figured out what a condom is..

For everyone one of these stories I hear, there are a few hundred were things went from bad, to worst, to ugly, and then on to things far more horrible. You bash at people to 'get a job' without considering that even with your upbringing, you STILL can not afford an ounce of humility. I know a few people looking for a job. And they frankly have a better chance at winning the Powerball Jackpot than getting out of the $7.25/hour. I would think someone like you, with a past life so rough, would understand that not everyone has things 'go their way' at all times. That 'set backs' are more common than 'advances in life'. The only way you could really reach this level of 'work philosophy' comes down to only one of two possibilities:

A ) You bullshitted everything in your story. Yeah, you walked to school up hill, both ways, in 10 feet of snow, with no shoes...

B ) At 24 and believe you understand everything in the world would show to anyone what you really know....

Given that your on post #1 (as of this writing), I'm more likely to believe 'A' than 'B'.

Rather than bitch at people to find jobs, what are YOU doing to help solve the problem? Nothing. All your 'life events' if they did happen, have taught you absolutely NOTHING of real worth. Your 24, degreed, making $70K/year and still without an ounce of wisdom into reality. Don't worry, in five to twenty years, you'll get an educational lesson that your unprepared to deal or handle. You wont know when it happens, or even why; but it'll tear up your existence. It will not be pretty or enjoyable by any stretch of the imagination. An then you'll be forced to come to terms with how much of an asshole you've been over the years to people that you don't even know. An you know what will be the really painful thing? Some snot-nose kid berates you out of ignorance because he thinks he knows everything there is to know about the world. An how do I know this, you ask?

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Rather than bitch at people to find jobs, what are YOU doing to help solve the problem? Nothing. All your 'life events' if they did happen, have taught you absolutely NOTHING of real worth. Your 24, degreed, making $70K/year and still without an ounce of wisdom into reality. Don't worry, in five to twenty years, you'll get an educational lesson that your unprepared to deal or handle. You wont know when it happens, or even why; but it'll tear up your existence. It will not be pretty or enjoyable by any stretch of the imagination. An then you'll be forced to come to terms with how much of an asshole you've been over the years to people that you don't even know. An you know what will be the really painful thing? Some snot-nose kid berates you out of ignorance because he thinks he knows everything there is to know about the world. An how do I know this, you ask?

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Based on working for major corporations for over the last 40+ years, I can assure you that any company in business today will soon realize that a 70K/year IT job being done by a 24-year-old is tailor-made for outsourcing at one-third that salary - or less.

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Sorry but Get a fucking job, have a job and cant make ends meet,,, Get a skill that deserves better pay... Running a barcode over a scanner doesnt deserve more then 7.25 an hour... putting an item on a shelf doesnt either... Want to make more then 7.25 an hour... BE worth more then it...

Your not supposed to feed a family of 4 on 25k a year... if you cant support yourself why the fuck are you having children that I have to support because YOU havent figured out what a condom is..

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It may be free for him but someone is paying for it.

True, but you asked how much of his income was going towards it. None, so it is free for him and his family.
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And it's sad for kids who are around others who do celebrate it. They see it on tv and know they are missing something. Just because someone has the right to do something doesn't mean I can't say it makes me sad.

I think you were being a bit judgmental, though. You originally said that it was sad, not that it makes you sad.
I don't see much difference between the two.

If you say a thing is sad, it's making a value judgment on that thing, and that everyone else should see it the same way. When you say it makes you sad, it's less of a demand that others see it the same way.

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And it's sad for kids who are around others who do celebrate it. They see it on tv and know they are missing something. Just because someone has the right to do something doesn't mean I can't say it makes me sad.

Do you feel sad for all 5 billion or so people worldwide that do not celebrate Christmas, because they are also not Christian?

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FR

One thing I've noticed in this thread is that there are some posters who seem to feel a certain level of disdain and scorn towards people who do menial or unskilled labor, as if they're worth less than those who might earn higher salaries.

Hell, at least they're doing an honest day's work. A lot of people in society rail against those who don't work, who get welfare, and yet, these Wal-Mart employees clearly want to work.

Okay, so maybe they're not rock stars or rocket scientists, but they're doing what they can. Why should working people be treated with such scorn and derision?

Many people these days lament the loss of the American work ethic, but it's not that difficult to figure out when one sees such a nasty, mean-spirited attitude towards those who do "the dirty jobs." Why should anyone have any work ethic if the only reward for doing so is to be treated like some kind of sap or sucker, someone who "deserves" to be exploited? If this is the mentality which dominates American business today, no wonder our economy is in such sad shape.

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One thing I've noticed in this thread is that there are some posters who seem to feel a certain level of disdain and scorn towards people who do menial or unskilled labor, as if they're worth less than those who might earn higher salaries...

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One thing I've noticed in this thread is that there are some posters who seem to feel a certain level of disdain and scorn towards people who do menial or unskilled labor, as if they're worth less than those who might earn higher salaries.

Hell, at least they're doing an honest day's work. A lot of people in society rail against those who don't work, who get welfare, and yet, these Wal-Mart employees clearly want to work.

Okay, so maybe they're not rock stars or rocket scientists, but they're doing what they can. Why should working people be treated with such scorn and derision?

Many people these days lament the loss of the American work ethic, but it's not that difficult to figure out when one sees such a nasty, mean-spirited attitude towards those who do "the dirty jobs." Why should anyone have any work ethic if the only reward for doing so is to be treated like some kind of sap or sucker, someone who "deserves" to be exploited? If this is the mentality which dominates American business today, no wonder our economy is in such sad shape.

THis...faved, liked and seconded

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And all those businesses will fail because profits in a healthy economy should be razor thin. Deflation is always a disaster. Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history.

And, you are wrong. Profits don't have to be "razor thin." Profits should be healthy enough to lure people into supplying the market, but not so high as to lure too many suppliers, leading to oversupply and resource misallocation.
"Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history."

If the profit margin on any item is higher than a couple of percent then, in the theoretical free market, other competitors will move in and under cut prices until that razor thin margin is achieved. That's how people who understand economics knows that at its very most basic heart the US economy is corrupt and has been since sometime in the early 80's when the idea of a 2% profit margin became unacceptable to the investment class.

Your definition of "razor thin" and an entrepreneur's definition of "razor thin" may vary.

Why aren't there more competitors coming in to undercut prices? What is preventing them?

And, just so we're on the same page, you don't get to define what the proper level of profit is for someone else. You are more than welcome to do that for yourself. But, when it's someone else taking risks and making the effort, that someone else gets to define for him or herself, what the proper level of profits is.

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I don't receive a union retirement. That is paid by AT&T.