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Phydeaux -> RE: Obamacare takes off... (12/6/2013 8:25:08 PM)
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ORIGINAL: joether
Pot calling the kettle black! HOW many threads have you been shown your lies and crap are bogus with facts and evidence?
None.
As for your assertion quote:
'Tails posts tend to hold factual information.
I'll make a bet with you. I'll pick a year - you can pick the month. We'll count the next 150 quotes from Motter tail.
'tend' would certainly suggest a majority of the time. But I will be way generous.
I'll bet that Mottertail doesn't make any kind of link to mainstream source 15% of the time. Ie., less than 15% of the time does he quote a mainstream source.
I'll make a side bet that 75% of the time that he is either deriding his opponent or his argument. And over the last 6 months I'll bet he's used the offensive term nutsxxxxx in at least 200 posts.
Put your money where your mouth is.
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Now, some history....
Not one of the companies you list below:
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ORIGINAL: Phyedaux
ABC news reported it.
CBS reported it
The New York times reported it.
Wall street journal.
Not to mention The Hill
and the Federal Register.
....published any material in 2009, 2010, or 2011 that cancellations of insurance policies would take place.
Simply not true, and once again, revealing your ignorance on the topic. Both of the capitol hill reporting services reported on the numbers published in the federal register.
Additionally, your assertion that no main stream media reported on possible insurance losses is just plain and simply wrong.
When I read Sibelius's preliminary rules what - 3 years ago it was immediately obvious that the statement "if you like your healthcare you can keep it" was blatantly false.
When the preliminary memo was leaked along with estimates of how many people would lose insurance - it was covered in many mainstream new arenas. Of course, since you don't watch/listen to any mainstream news channels you wouldn't have heard it or read about it.
I posted months ago that millions of people were going to lose health care coverage. I said that for 2013 the net effect of this law would be that FEWER people had health insurance - and that this would be possibly true for the entire year of 2014.
If you don't count "medixxxx" as insurance (as I do not) it is almost assured that 2014 will have a net loss of insurance. And, if the country is so stupid as to continue down this path, that losses as much as 10x bigger will occur in 2015 - or whenever O'Stupid care hits the group/employer markets.
just because fanboy that you are *you* didn't see this coming, doesn't mean thousands of others didn't.
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If your going to blame Democrats for not seeing the higher than expected cancellations due to the ACA. Then its fair to blame 9/11 on Republicans since they are the ones that created the problems that arrived as at that date. And we can blame conservatives for 4/19/95, since their 'political ideology' pushed events to that explosive day.
Really? You really just blamed Republicans for 9/11? LOL... Do please continue. In fact I think I will close my sig with
Joelther 'it's fair to blame 9/11 on Republicans".
And you blame conservatives for Timothy Mckvay. Niice.
Well, I don't blame the dims for 9/11, even tho it was Clinton that declined to pay Suday a few million dollars for Osama bin Laden..
Returning to the question of healthcare for a minute - its as if you seem to think the health care cancellations happened by accident.
Do you understand that the regulations were FORMULATED by the obama administration. Do you realize that administration had thousands of hours of consultations with insurers?
So of course its fair to blame dimocrats - the passed the law, they formulated the policies.
Did you not listen to the testimony at congress, or that happened in the California insurance public hearings, or the New York Insurance public hearing.
Insurance executives said: They were required to cancel those policies in order to drive enough subscribers to the exchanges. That without them the exchanges could not function. And that is why the states and insurers in half the states are declining to extend current policies.
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If the Democrats had a crystal ball to look into the future, its more likely they would have pushed the President's original bill than what would become known as the Affordable Care Act. They would know in 2009 that Republicans were totally dishonorable and without credibility to be taken seriously, and pass a better bill rather than compromise on it.
If the dimocrats had the brains god gave sexually transmitted diseases they would have seen the writing on the wall for the past three years that said that the majority of americans do not like this bill.
So joelther.
I told you that the rollout of this healthcare was going to be a flop. It was.
I told you that millions of people would lose healthcare - they have.
I told you that the IRS was going to go to an honor system and not verify. They have.
I've made 5 more predictions in previous threads, regarding total number covered, IRS problems that will arise in April due to political interference - and what will happen over the summer.
So. The media with their every shallow coverage are starting to line up to their natural liberal bent.
But I guarantee you that january will give fresh stories of rollout troubles.
I guarantee you young people will not sign up in the numbers needed, and according to projections.
And I guarantee that even after the extended enrollment that the president will be millions of subscribers short of the 30 million - oops 7 million projection for coverage.
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