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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 11:44:29 AM   
DsCouple23


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I suppose this at the time was a lesson on " you cant truly control one unless she wants to be, and from afar it's much more difficult to do so".


I see you're in Denver. Have you talked to DarkSteven about the local community there? Sure, only considering local people makes your pool of potentials much smaller, but you avoid so much time wasting.

ETA - well, your profile says Denver, but above you say Los Angeles, so I'm confused.








Yes i was based in LA when these events took place a year or so ago.

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 11:47:29 AM   
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You know I added that BTW for a reason, I wanted to see how you react to someone who's just the teeniest bit confrontational. Your response was hugely condescending and filled with one up manship.

I try to avoid people, dom or sub, with these behaviors.


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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 11:49:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

<just laughs>

You know I added that BTW for a reason, I wanted to see how you react to someone who's just the teeniest bit confrontational. Your response was hugely condescending and filled with one up manship.

I try to avoid people, dom or sub, with these behaviors.


Well then avoid this post lol... take your own advice.

Intelligent responses are welcome though.

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 11:50:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23

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On the basis of this conversation you decided she wasn't submissive? Alrighty then.

I don't think you encountered a non sub, I think you encountered a non female who couldn't come up with a picture.

Unicorns are rare, you might be better served by taking your time and getting to know people --- preferably in person.

Chatte- She is cam verified many many times. We facetimed about 10x, talked for 3 months ... she was real.

I'm not dumb enough to waste time on someone who isn't a female. I can detect that usually within first 5-10 days of talking.

This was just one example of her, being very annoying/impossible/ really unreasonable.. perhaps classified as a complete brat.
She has money as well... and although i have money too... that may be the reason for this attitude, as well as working in the Adult Industry.


So you spoke for three months, and "facetimed" about 10. So what was the point of the picture. You knew what she looked like.

You also didn't say anything about the two of you having any kind of dom/sub relationship, so she isn't obligated to send you anything just because you asked.

Given the face time, I doubt she was a male, but based on what you say you said, I would have simply told you to pound salt and blocked you.

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 11:56:49 AM   
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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 12:01:35 PM   
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I'll say this, though, DsCouple: a lot of your posts have a competitive air to them. I think that if you can figure out a way to give fewer fucks, you'll meet more women. And I don't mean "on CollarMe," though that would be included too.

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 12:07:32 PM   
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Wow, this is hilarious.

I'll say this, though, DsCouple: a lot of your posts have a competitive air to them.


I found it indicative that he felt it necessary to say that he had been with around 40 women, all at least 7.5s (in another post) and then felt the need to mention that he has a Mercedes.


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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 12:12:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah yeah, that was the same poster, wasn't it? The one who rated the many women he'd been with.

I fear there are people who don't understand that rating a woman's looks or claiming to have been with mass numbers of them is not a selling point to some of us. Neither is claiming to have a Mercedes.

I claim to have a 15 year old Honda that runs great but admittedly could use some body work.



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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 12:52:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		My reaction to the story was similar to that of CrazyML. She didn't feel submissive toward you, wasn't into you. Maybe she strung you along out of boredom.

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 1:35:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23


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I'm not mocking anyone. I was giving my "credentials," if you will. I've met a lot of kinky women online, so I've happy with a system I'm constructed for myself, though I doubt it would fit everyone's personality.

So I'll say: if a face-to-face meeting takes more than two weeks to engineer from first email, it's never going anywhere. There are extremely rare exceptions to this, but for all the rest of us, meet fast, and see if there is chemistry in real life.

Also, a good leadership tip is: don't give people opportunities to fail. Only give them opportunities to succeed.


Couldn't agree more. This one as i said i cultivated for 4 months. Anyone i have ever met on here i have talked to bare minimum for 2 months.

I for sure gave her a chance to succeed in this case... my real opinion is, she is just young and dumb... and just needs a few years more under her belt to truly give it a genuine go. She is a party girl for sure, and makes around 12-15k per mo... she is a handful. I have suspicion she was dishonest as well... just my instinct to go off of, but she did admit to kissing some other guy that night i told her not to go out... it's compounded with the fact she had no dad growing up and her mother just passed away. Lots of stuff going on in her chaotic life.

I stood tall on a simple text only because i don't say please in real life for an unnecesary reason... i wanted to break her out of the mindset that i was like her "followers" online who just bend to everything she says... afterall i'm not the submissive one here.

J

I have a question. You said you "told her not to go out". Why?
Oh. Just a hint. Just because we are subs, doesn't t mean we don't respond to, and appreciate, good manners. Saying "please" isn't submissive. It is just polite.

Oh. And for the record? You wouldn't have made it past 2 e-mails with me. My advice? FWIW. Your whole insta-Dom approach is going to attract the exact type of woman you are complaining about.


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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 1:37:00 PM   
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No submissive has to submit to someone who does not yet own him/her. If you expect that you will most likely be sorely disappointed.

She could very well be submissive and just not want to submit to you. Most good submissives need to be inspired to submit and, apparently, you are not doing that for her. Just because someone checks off the Submissive box, it doesn't mean s/he will submit to just anyone checking off the Dominant box.

You seem very argumentative and confrontational judging by some of your replies in this thread.

The nice thing about all this is, anyone that views your profile can go up to the top and click on "View Forum Posts" and see everything you've posted here. Then they will know who they're really dealing with & they can make in informed decision.

NBMG

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 2:51:49 PM   
DsCouple23


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Wow, this is hilarious.

I'll say this, though, DsCouple: a lot of your posts have a competitive air to them. I think that if you can figure out a way to give fewer fucks, you'll meet more women. And I don't mean "on CollarMe," though that would be included too.


I've never had a problem meeting them... i was merely presenting a situation that occured Red. I too have my own system.

Not sure why you would think i have no problem... quite an offbase opinion... perhaps because you wish to jump on the flame train?

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 2:53:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

I don't have to avoid this thread, in fact I want to insert myself into it as often as possible, since you appear to be using the profile side to find your unicorn, I'd like to give anyone talking to you an idea of how you behave to those you find objectionable.






Lol Chatte... i'm venomous, you slighted me first... gee i wonder will i just laugh it off? I can . Your posts always make me laugh. Hater's tend to have problems with themselves. This is what i mean that on here we cant just talk about the topic.. we have to march down the "op is insufficient road". Not sure why. I appreciate all the intelligent opinions on here. Those i am happy about.

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 2:58:13 PM   
DsCouple23


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DsCouple23,

No submissive has to submit to someone who does not yet own him/her. If you expect that you will most likely be sorely disappointed.

She could very well be submissive and just not want to submit to you. Most good submissives need to be inspired to submit and, apparently, you are not doing that for her. Just because someone checks off the Submissive box, it doesn't mean s/he will submit to just anyone checking off the Dominant box.

You seem very argumentative and confrontational judging by some of your replies in this thread.

The nice thing about all this is, anyone that views your profile can go up to the top and click on "View Forum Posts" and see everything you've posted here. Then they will know who they're really dealing with & they can make in informed decision.

NBMG

Lol, i'm not embarassed one bit about my posts. So stop thinking it effects me in the slightest.

Secondly, i didn't tell her to submit one bit... all i told her was that i don't needlessly say please to anyone. Quite frankly, you don't know the context of the situation, or maybe didn't read what i wrote about it. Really the whole heart of this particular scenario was meant to have people share subs that weren't subs.

Just to comment on the situation. This is the past... i don't regret it at all.. in fact i was close to closing the deal... she was the one who wrecked our meeting. Not I.

The pic texting, was just one example of her being difficult. I'm not going to bow down and say please, when we agreed already pic for pic. It was only the principle of the matter that i was stressing. Not the actual pic itself. Principle is important when you have a girl, who has thousands of customers and text's them as well.. you must differentiate yourself from them, so you must be reasonably strict.
J

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 3:01:18 PM   
DsCouple23


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ORIGINAL: Blonderfluff


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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I'm not mocking anyone. I was giving my "credentials," if you will. I've met a lot of kinky women online, so I've happy with a system I'm constructed for myself, though I doubt it would fit everyone's personality.

So I'll say: if a face-to-face meeting takes more than two weeks to engineer from first email, it's never going anywhere. There are extremely rare exceptions to this, but for all the rest of us, meet fast, and see if there is chemistry in real life.

Also, a good leadership tip is: don't give people opportunities to fail. Only give them opportunities to succeed.


Couldn't agree more. This one as i said i cultivated for 4 months. Anyone i have ever met on here i have talked to bare minimum for 2 months.

I for sure gave her a chance to succeed in this case... my real opinion is, she is just young and dumb... and just needs a few years more under her belt to truly give it a genuine go. She is a party girl for sure, and makes around 12-15k per mo... she is a handful. I have suspicion she was dishonest as well... just my instinct to go off of, but she did admit to kissing some other guy that night i told her not to go out... it's compounded with the fact she had no dad growing up and her mother just passed away. Lots of stuff going on in her chaotic life.

I stood tall on a simple text only because i don't say please in real life for an unnecesary reason... i wanted to break her out of the mindset that i was like her "followers" online who just bend to everything she says... afterall i'm not the submissive one here.

J

I have a question. You said you "told her not to go out". Why?
Oh. Just a hint. Just because we are subs, doesn't t mean we don't respond to, and appreciate, good manners. Saying "please" isn't submissive. It is just polite.

Oh. And for the record? You wouldn't have made it past 2 e-mails with me. My advice? FWIW. Your whole insta-Dom approach is going to attract the exact type of woman you are complaining about.



Blonderfluff,

I never insta-dom.

I told her not to go out because i know she gets drunk and does stupid things. It's quite possible alchohol played a huge factor in the problem, and i'm sure still is.

She spent 400 on a plane ticket... least she could do was not party the night before... and lo and behold, she messed it all up.

Bottom line. She isn't a sub. Not until she chooses to be, and at that time, she didn't choose at all. Perhaps she is only a sub in the bedroom...

I'd say she is just off in her own understanding of what she is or wants. Perhaps that misled me initially to talk with her.

Idk, just thought it was an interesting experience and wondered if others had kind of similar ones before.

J

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 3:02:45 PM   
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My reaction to the story was similar to that of CrazyML. She didn't feel submissive toward you, wasn't into you. Maybe she strung you along out of boredom.



She bought a plane ticket... facetime'd me and told me nearly every intimate detail about her life almost every day for 3 months.
Even sent me a gift certificate to my favorite restaurant. She was for sure feeling something. But was too immature and just not ready i believe for something real and serious. Plus alchohol played a factor as well.

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 3:05:24 PM   
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Bottom line. She isn't a sub. Not until she chooses to be, and at that time, she didn't choose at all.
You don't know that. All you know is that she chose not to be submissive to you. That doesn't mean that she won't meet the person that inspires her to submit.



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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 3:05:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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Wow, this is hilarious.

I'll say this, though, DsCouple: a lot of your posts have a competitive air to them.


I found it indicative that he felt it necessary to say that he had been with around 40 women, all at least 7.5s (in another post) and then felt the need to mention that he has a Mercedes.



Find away. lol not sure why you think that all matters to me. Or anyone else.. they can use the search key as good as you can.



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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 3:06:50 PM   
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Bottom line. She isn't a sub. Not until she chooses to be, and at that time, she didn't choose at all.
You don't know that. All you know is that she chose not to be submissive to you. That doesn't mean that she won't meet the person that inspires her to submit.




In my experience in life, she is just not mature enough. Probably will take her a few years at least to get to the point of really wanting it. She's simply a bit too immature for my taste anyhow, perhaps a much older guy who likes brats may be able to take her on, idk, time will tell.

Either way, it wasn't for me, which wasn't even the point of this thread.

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RE: In your expert opinion... - 12/23/2013 3:16:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Wow, this is hilarious.

I'll say this, though, DsCouple: a lot of your posts have a competitive air to them.


I found it indicative that he felt it necessary to say that he had been with around 40 women, all at least 7.5s (in another post) and then felt the need to mention that he has a Mercedes.



Find away. lol not sure why you think that all matters to me. Or anyone else.. they can use the search key as good as you can.





I know it doesn't matter to you. That much is really obvious. Clearly, since others have commented, they have also noticed the same behavior. And the search button comment makes no sense.


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