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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Dude, it's you. She's not YOUR submissive so it has nothing to do with her being submissive or not. It just has to do with her being a flirt and you wouldn't play along and that was your choice.

You didn't play along and you didn't flirt back so she got bored and moved on.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I don't get the demand for a picture if you had already spoken on a cam.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Wanna bet he wanted a naked pic?
She didn't feel good enough about meeting him clothed for coffee, so why does he think he had the right to order her to send naked pics?
No wonder she wouldn't meet him.

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23

Thoughts? Are there a lot of so called submissives that truly are not submissive, or is it me?

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23

Thoughts? Are there a lot of so called submissives that truly are not submissive, or is it me?

There are a lot of men pretending to be women. There are women pretending to be men. There are dominants who are not dominant. There are submissives who are not submissive.

You are correct. Everyone is not who and what they say they are. I'll let you in on a secret. People are not going to change to suit you. They are not going to be more honest. So don't worry about it. Get on with your own life.

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23



Correct. Such is the age of the internet. I suppose all topics have been beat to death on this forum. So the veterans don't find these new kind of topics entertaining.

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Sure, as others have said I'm sure there are plenty of gals who are interested in a little sub play, butnomore than that.
In this case I'm guessing she wasn't that into you. That doesn't necessarily mean she's not sub, just that she's not sub to you.

This isn't a judgement of your domliness, just your compatibility with this sub

Perhaps. But to be honest, she reminded me a lot of my ex-gf, prior to embracing my Dom.

Very hard to control, all about herself, and just flaky and dishonest.

These qualities i have noticed are more common with women who are exceptionally beautiful and know it.

Which.. unfortunately she was and is. She works about 20 hrs a week if that on Cam, and makes 5 figures every month or more... imagine the power a 20 yr old feels when she is able to do that.

J

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23



Correct. Such is the age of the internet. I suppose all topics have been beat to death on this forum. So the veterans don't find these new kind of topics entertaining.

I am so very sorry for answering. I am very sorry you had to waste so much valuable time on someone you admit had problems you most likely could not resolve. I am sorry she was not the unicorn you seek. I am sorry everyone doesn't give you the answers you need to resolve the issues you are still experiencing over her failure. I am sorry the message boards are not set up to aid in your personal search. I am sorry you seem to have some sort of chip on your shoulder. I am sorry I can not help you with that chip.

I am sorry I do not find certain topics entertaining when for some reason the OP will be combative with any and all replies.

Again, I am so very sorry to answer you. It was my fault entirely. I will not make the same mistake twice as I do learn from my mistakes.

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23

Thank you for the completely professional and intelligent response, perhaps i am sour a bit. You are right i believe. It's not easy for me to share experiences like this, because quiet frankly i put a ton of time and effort into the situation, and unfortunately, it didn't work out.
She may be submissive, i can swallow that.

But, she also may be too immature to be dependable / not a flake.

She proved to me she ordered that plane ticket. It cost her 200 dollars not to go. I already had the room reserved for our weekend... It was a loss on my end too.

Very anticlimactic .

There where a lot of red flags in hindsight, but i believe at that time i was too blinded by her beauty and the fact that she was a sub, rather than looking out for what was the best decision for me.

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Dude, it's you. She's not YOUR submissive so it has nothing to do with her being submissive or not. It just has to do with her being a flirt and you wouldn't play along and that was your choice.

You didn't play along and you didn't flirt back so she got bored and moved on.

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23

I believe i have run into this before.

Have you ever ran into the sub that didn't want to be a sub, but declared she was a sub?

It seems like there was one in my past. But it could of been the fact i never met her face to face. She was just incapable of following direction (and i didn't assume really any control, prior to our scheduled/failed meeting). For instance:

Her: I would love if you would send me a pic
Me: Sure, but it is pic for pic, so if i send one , you send one.
Her: OK :)
Me: Pic
Her: say please!
Me: I can't be handled that way, i don't say please when it is unecessary, and in this case it isn't, it's pic for pic, i have delivered, now its your turn.
Her: MMM I forgot how awesome you were, i'm not at home, i will send it tonight when i get home for u :)

Elapsed a day or so, no pic.

Then i called her out, then she said "say please" and i reffered her over to my last text lol.

Seems as though this one (this happened a year ago btw, and i have a good memory), just didn't want to be sub... instead just wanted to screw around and waste time.

Thoughts? Are there a lot of so called submissives that truly are not submissive, or is it me? Quite frankly after our interactions (there is much more history not disclosed from this particular one), i would say any dom who ever had her, could not control her unless face to face, and even then would have to modify her behaviour really really significantly to tame her.

J

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23

Thoughts? Are there a lot of so called submissives that truly are not submissive, or is it me?

There are a lot of men pretending to be women. There are women pretending to be men. There are dominants who are not dominant. There are submissives who are not submissive.

You are correct. Everyone is not who and what they say they are. I'll let you in on a secret. People are not going to change to suit you. They are not going to be more honest. So don't worry about it. Get on with your own life.

Correct. Such is the age of the internet. I suppose all topics have been beat to death on this forum. So the veterans don't find these new kind of topics entertaining.

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ORIGINAL: Blonderfluff

^^^^. And. Your OP is far from a "new topic". Try the search button to see how many very very similar threads have been started.

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Add oddly enough, they're sometimes the same topic from the same person....

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4410952/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4410952

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Add oddly enough, they're sometimes the same topic from the same person....

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4410952/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4410952

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Add oddly enough, they're sometimes the same topic from the same person....

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4410952/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4410952

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ORIGINAL: Kana

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23

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Generally speaking when I've encountered that situation it usually means that either the chemistry ain't right, or, far more likely,I'm not taking charge.
9 times out of 10 I've found that when gals act like that they are testing me, seeing how I respond.Whether they know it or not, they need their leash pulled tight...but in the proper way