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vincentML -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 2:13:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: njlauren quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie What kind of lame ass trolling is that supposed to be? quote: ORIGINAL: crazyml How good is your Apache? He is being sardonic, the only true native languages in the US are things like Apache and Cherokee, and even they were immigrants......the point being that the US is nation of immigrants, and English is not the 'native' language per se, though it became the dominant one. Two points, Lauren: The three generation model of assimilation and acculturation tells us that the second generation immigrants are mixed while the third generation are mostly fully assimilated. Language is an implement of POWER. Many who bitch about bilinguals or non-English speakers are really revealing their whine about fear of losing political power, imo.

truckinslave -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 3:39:55 PM)
quote: How will you know when that happens? We will all know it when we see it. quote: And are you going to freeze immigration from Australia? Scotland? Canada? Yes. Yes. Yes. quote: Are you going to give them tests? Huh? quote: Are you going to test those born here who are illiterate? No.

truckinslave -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 3:43:17 PM)
quote: What parameters do you use to define assimilation, Truck? I don't know, of course. But a lot of us have already said we don't have it now. Maybe its like art- we'll know it when we see it? I do know that our unemployment rate is about the same as the percentage of illegals amongst us.....

truckinslave -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 3:50:22 PM)
So. Unless you're for unlimited immigration, both illegal and illegal, aren't you somewhere on the continuum with us? As or your husband- has anyone here posted anything "negative" that applies to him? While I love how you slam us for engaging in negative stereotypes and then stereotype Asians positively, lol, I think there's frequently truth in them. And the applicable one here is that your husband reprsents the "old" immigration- people who came here to become Americans. The "new" immigration is noticeably not so inclined.

truckinslave -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 3:54:56 PM)
quote: I for one simply hate Indians When I enter a motel lobby that smells of curry I turn around and leave. I cannot understand them. Especially on the phone, I cannot understand them. The exaggerated politeness that just seems to go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on... yeah, that's a problem too.

truckinslave -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 4:00:06 PM)
quote: One of the reasons this has happened I think is that unlike past generations, when immigrants tended to concentrate in big cities, or maybe certain areas of certain states, it has become a lot more widespread. There's just more of it. We have the highest percentage of non-English- speaking immigrants in our history. Those immigrants are also much more likely to be from nations that have less in common with Western values..... We are being balkanized.

Hillwilliam -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 5:19:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 I feel like I stumbled into a thread of Duck Dynasty or Honey BooBoo followers. Really? My husband is Korean, now an American citizen. College educated, owns a business and speaks 3 languages. I am glad he didn't "assimilate" into being the standard American because lazy, racist and judgmental are so not a turn on. How about we impose a moratorium on jobless people breeding, or the undeducated? How about if we force our so far behind Asian countries children to learn another language fluently not the typical basic 2 years of Spanish or French. We are raising a nation of obese whiny electronics obsessed brats with values that make them think pressing 1 for English is a hassle? White privilege stinks in here. So does the limited knowledge of how many immigrant do assimilate into our culture but the ones that do, especially from Asian countries, tend to take over because of their work ethic, something we are losing here daily. Oh and Jim? He is at the jobsite today going over plans with the electrician. Sorry if I sound bitchy but I can be when I read pages of white people problems. Why would you assume that I'm talking about people who are not white? Who's the racist?

thompsonx -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 5:23:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies It's just a piece of cloth. 64 pieces of cloth, actually, stitched together to form a symbol which is held dear and important to a whole lot of people. There is no requirement whatsoever that a business owner display it, but if he chooses to do so, then he ought to be aware that there is a code that goes along with it. I'd take my business elsewhere, too. That certainly makes a lot of sense. Some foriegner comes to our country and is so happy about it that he actually flys the flag 24/7. But because the fuckng dumbass doesn't know all the rules for loving the country that has adopted him it is only fair that we butt fuck this bitch.

thompsonx -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 5:31:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Our current issue is with the immigrant owned liquor store down the street. They have an American flag flying 24/7 and the light has been broken for 3 weeks. We've said something to them 4 times about how disrespectful that is and the last time the young guy said, "How about I go out and tear the fucking thing down?" So, we bought our Christmas party liquor elsewhere..... Perhaps it might have been more productive for you to have spoken with the father as the senior member of the family?

thompsonx -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 5:38:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Nope. No jail, no fine, but it is a guaranteed way to seriously piss off existing and potential customers who care about such things. More likely to piss off some bigot who is too lazy or stupid to learn a foriegn language.

thompsonx -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 5:45:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave quote: but, back then, immigrants wanted to BE American...not just live in America. And there's the rub. I want to freeze immigration, legal and illegal, until we assimilate the folks already here legally. Just how does one determine who is here legally? True the naturalized one can prove it but how do you prove your legitimacy to be here? Your birth certificate has only a foot print...how do you prove that foot print is yours?

OsideGirl -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 5:46:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Our current issue is with the immigrant owned liquor store down the street. They have an American flag flying 24/7 and the light has been broken for 3 weeks. We've said something to them 4 times about how disrespectful that is and the last time the young guy said, "How about I go out and tear the fucking thing down?" So, we bought our Christmas party liquor elsewhere..... Perhaps it might have been more productive for you to have spoken with the father as the senior member of the family? We spoke to multiple members of the family, the first time was the father.

thompsonx -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 5:48:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie Sounds like you are just itching to shed the blood of all sorts of creatures. The topic here has been about those unwilling or unable to learn the language in their new country, I thought it was about people unwilling or unable to learn to speak spanish. I would like to see a link to the site that validates your position that english is the national language of the u.s.

thompsonx -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 6:12:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 This afternoon I had to deal with a Hispanic cashier who could barely speak English, let alone understand it, who so screwed up the checkout that I have to go back to the store Thursday to get it straightened out. Learning spanish is just not that hard. You have lived in texas most of your life. So it is not like this is a first encounter. I mean you move to some countries from the US and they expect you to learn the language. Unless and until the u.s. decides to have a national language then there is no national language for the u.s. So what the fuck is the problem with having future citizens or people with green cards learn the English language and be proficient to the point that they can understand what the fuck is said to them and can reply in such a manner that you do not start looking for a fucking translator. Or when they become the majority they might make spanish the national language. Of course now some individuals will now call me a racist, I have read a great many of your post and I have never detected any racism in the ones I have read. I think you were just having a bad hair day and this indvidual was just next in line..

Hillwilliam -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 6:20:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Nope. No jail, no fine, but it is a guaranteed way to seriously piss off existing and potential customers who care about such things. More likely to piss off some bigot who is too lazy or stupid to learn a foriegn language. The last time I looked, there were over 100 different languages and dialects spoken in Dade county FL alone, much less the country. Are you going to learn them all?[8\|]

tj444 -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 6:47:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Nope. No jail, no fine, but it is a guaranteed way to seriously piss off existing and potential customers who care about such things. More likely to piss off some bigot who is too lazy or stupid to learn a foriegn language. what languages do you speak? just wondering.. I speak Canadian and just a little American.. enough to get by.. [:D] (I would like to learn Spanish & perhaps Mandarin also tho)

truckinslave -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 7:28:25 PM)
quote: Just how does one determine who is here legally? True the naturalized one can prove it but how do you prove your legitimacy to be here? Your birth certificate has only a foot print...how do you prove that foot print is yours? I've been patient. Really I have. But that post proves you will never write anything here worth reading. Goodbye.

LafayetteLady -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 8:09:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl They have an American flag flying 24/7 and the light has been broken for 3 weeks. We've said something to them 4 times about how disrespectful that is. really? It's just a piece of cloth. So then it is ok to talk about your royal family as nothing but a bunch of mutant inbreds, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pKc924M3s What is it with disrespecting the flag? Xmas is more fun if you don't sweat the small stuff.... re. the thread, yeah, pisses me off too. Some companies over here actually advertise the fact that they have English call centres, I mean isn't it the bare minimum you expect from a help line to be able to understand what the person says

EdBowie -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 8:14:47 PM)
It proves that projection is still alive and well. Find one single post from me that backs up your crap insinuations. quote: ORIGINAL: Rawni quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie What kind of lame ass trolling is that supposed to be? quote: ORIGINAL: crazyml How good is your Apache? It's the kind of comment that went right over your head. There's more than language barriers and this proves it.

EdBowie -> RE: I am quickly developing a problem with immigrants. (12/25/2013 8:20:45 PM)
Do you have nothing better to do than keep up these bald faced lies? At no point have I ever made any such claim about English, and you damn well know it.. If you think this is a funny game, shall we just go ahead and revisit all your past attempts at justifying child molestation? quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie Sounds like you are just itching to shed the blood of all sorts of creatures. The topic here has been about those unwilling or unable to learn the language in their new country, I thought it was about people unwilling or unable to learn to speak spanish. I would like to see a link to the site that validates your position that english is the national language of the u.s.

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