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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
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He pretty much DID imply that some don't deserve oral sex because of the way they look. No, he didn't say that he refused to do it. But the way he blurted out that he doesn't like the look of some of them, sort of out of nowhere, made me wonder if he hadn't blurted out the same sort of thing to women in person.

Oral sex is incredibly intimate anyway. I don't speak for all women, but I think for a lot of us there are concerns about hygiene, taste and odour. We worry about being judged (or certainly at the beginning of sexual maturity, hopefully this goes away with increasing confidence and good experiences). To hear someone vocalise that some are not pleasant to look at, they don't look like they 'deserve' to be kissed - it just adds one more thing to worry about. He's going to be close enough to see it in extreme detail, is he judging me? Does he think it's ugly? This may seem like a silly concern to you, but it's not a rare one.

In a way, the fact that you don't see many sets of privates can make it worse - a lot of women reach sexual maturity without having seen more than one or two vulvas in a school text book....

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ORIGINAL: Takecharge13

... there are pussies that just look like they deserved kissed and licked and some not so much.

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
I wonder how you would feel if a woman made you feel yours didn't look like it was suckable or fuckable. Assuming, that is, you're not into small-dick humiliation.

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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium

Oops. I got so carried away in the details of the last post that I plumb forgot my point was to respond to the small-dick comment.

I got in trouble, in my earlier posts on CM (a few months ago) when I mentioned my dick size in a post - so - all I'll say is I WISH women cared as much about a good-looking cock as we (at least "me") men care about the vagina.

But, if I had a horrid looking cock - my guess is that it wouldn't matter.

It would matter as much as if I had a huge cock - which is to say - it really doesn't seem to matter to women either way.

Alas, as are many differences between the sexes, what matters to one is nearly meaningless to the other. However, from what I can gather here, women don't really give much of a twit about a huge well trimmed cock - or an ugly shrunken teeny weeny polka dot bikini cock.

What women seem to care about are relationships. Period.

I guess that's good news for all the guys with cocks less than the average six or whatever inches - as - well - women don't care about this stuff - so it' would be hard to humiliate a guy when it really doesn't matter WHAT the guy's cock looks like.

Women would be, I would think, so very much easier to humiliate, since they seem to care more about THEIR looks than they care about a guy's looks - but that's not my "thing", so, I say no more lest I get into more trouble than I am right now.

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ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear

You still don't get it do you? Women (I'm submissive btw) for the most part, care about the entire package. You're still focused entirely on body parts. You may *think* the above was a tribute to women, it was IMO a transparent case of trying too hard and the effort falling flat.

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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

RS - It's interesting that you post the vagina cast art. I don't know if it's the same project, but I was asked to um.... model for such a project in college. Not a dignified process. I'll leave it to your imagination whether you might find a plaster model of my nether-regions on proud display somewhere.

Anyway. Of course people find different things attractive. It goes without saying that maybe you like one look, maybe you like another. I don't for one moment expect any guy to find every woman or every vulva equally pleasant.

I suppose what I objected to was the needlessness of the comment. Unless I missed it, no woman in the thread was suggesting that all men need to admire their vulva or find it especially enticing to look at. The tone of it was like he was correcting womankind - like he was saying 'what you women need to realise is that some of your vaginas are ugly'. He pretty much DID imply that some don't deserve oral sex because of the way they look. No, he didn't say that he refused to do it. But the way he blurted out that he doesn't like the look of some of them, sort of out of nowhere, made me wonder if he hadn't blurted out the same sort of thing to women in person.

Oral sex is incredibly intimate anyway. I don't speak for all women, but I think for a lot of us there are concerns about hygiene, taste and odour. We worry about being judged (or certainly at the beginning of sexual maturity, hopefully this goes away with increasing confidence and good experiences). To hear someone vocalise that some are not pleasant to look at, they don't look like they 'deserve' to be kissed - it just adds one more thing to worry about. He's going to be close enough to see it in extreme detail, is he judging me? Does he think it's ugly? This may seem like a silly concern to you, but it's not a rare one.

In a way, the fact that you don't see many sets of privates can make it worse - a lot of women reach sexual maturity without having seen more than one or two vulvas in a school text book. They honestly don't know what's normal and what's odd. They don't know just how wide a variation there is in that part of the body. Boobs might be everywhere in the media, but you also tend to see at least the rough size and shape of boobs on women all the time. Even if you're unhappy with your own, you know that some people have small ones and some have big ones and changing in the locker room will show you different types of nipples etc. Even changing for the pool with another woman, you're highly unlikely to see her labia. Combine 'is that how it's supposed to look' with 'well some don't look like they deserve to be licked' and you have a recipe for some insecurities.