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MrBukani -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/24/2014 6:32:01 PM)
This is how the palestinians are using their children http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3c5uWIDBXY

SadistDave -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/24/2014 8:52:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle So, there is no other side to the story and you are choosing to let your ideology dictate what you are going to regard as the 'truth', in spite of the evidence to the contrary. In this instance it seems that for you, your perception of "animus" is enough to justify a death sentence. Good luck with that. With an attitude like that, you will end up like Phydeaux, who admits to supporting the Israelis regardless of what they do. You will excuse the rest of us being concerned with things like right and wrong and peace and justice, none of which exist on the Israeli agenda. You really have no ground to stand on with this. Your "ideology" is exactly the opposite of mine. Your anti-Semitism is pretty well known, as is your choice to take the Palestinians side over Israels at every opportunity. For someone who seems to think that any non-Palestinian source in the region is going to be unfair to Palestine maybe you shouldn't worry about Phydeaux. Whether you're aware of it or not, your consistant support of Palestine and disdain for Israel has pretty much assured your reputation is as an anti-Semite. As for me... I've never made any bones about it, nor have I ever tried to hide the fact that I believe that Islam is the the most dangerous religion on the planet. That pretty much makes me anti-Palestine by default. I'm not a big fan of the Jews or the Chriistians either, but they are relatively benign religions these days. Besides. You forget, I'm pro-death. When it comes to Palestinians I think any excuse is a good excuse to justify a death sentence. Unlike you and some of the other Muslim apologists here, I am fully aware that they don't really need any excuse to justify killing you, or me, or anyone else who happens to disagree with them about the ravings of their pedophile prophet. -SD-

tweakabelle -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/25/2014 12:33:41 AM)
Apologists for Israel often accuse Palestinians of using human shields. Is their point that if Palestinians commit war crimes that entitles the IDF to do the same? Or that if a few Palestinian fanatics abuse their kids then one can dismiss the entire Palestinian cause completely? Neither point makes any sense to me. They seem oblivious to (or deliberately ignore) the fact that the IDF does exactly the same thing ie it has a long history of using Palestinian children as human shields. Here are links to videos of IDF using Palestinian children as human shields: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXq57XK2L0A (includes an interview with an 11 year girl forced o at as a human shield for IDF troops; khttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAU8N-TQEdA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRQcTPIaETE When it comes to war crimes and human rights violations, *both* sides are equally guilty. Anyone who abuses or kills children deserves nio mercy. The guilty parties on *both* sides must be arrested given fair trails and be given severe punishments if found guilty.

MrBukani -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/25/2014 7:15:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle When it comes to war crimes and human rights violations, *both* sides are equally guilty. Anyone who abuses or kills children deserves nio mercy. The guilty parties on *both* sides must be arrested given fair trails and be given severe punishments if found guilty. Lovely change, so you are saying palestinians are equally guilty now. Won't be long before you take the jewish side now...[:D]

tweakabelle -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/25/2014 7:31:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle When it comes to war crimes and human rights violations, *both* sides are equally guilty. Anyone who abuses or kills children deserves nio mercy. The guilty parties on *both* sides must be arrested given fair trails and be given severe punishments if found guilty. Lovely change, so you are saying palestinians are equally guilty now. Won't be long before you take the jewish side now...[:D] I've been saying that - that both sides are equally bad when it comes to atrocities and war crimes - since I began posting here. So I haven't changed at all. Perhaps someone has decided to start reading what I am actually writing

EdBowie -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/25/2014 8:29:44 AM)
You've posted very specifically that people who call both sides to task for atrocities are 'apologists' for Israel. quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle When it comes to war crimes and human rights violations, *both* sides are equally guilty. Anyone who abuses or kills children deserves nio mercy. The guilty parties on *both* sides must be arrested given fair trails and be given severe punishments if found guilty. Lovely change, so you are saying palestinians are equally guilty now. Won't be long before you take the jewish side now...[:D] I've been saying that - that both sides are equally bad when it comes to atrocities and war crimes - since I began posting here. So I haven't changed at all. Perhaps someone has decided to start reading what I am actually writing

tweakabelle -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/25/2014 8:51:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie You've posted very specifically that people who call both sides to task for atrocities are 'apologists' for Israel. quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle I've been saying that - that both sides are equally bad when it comes to atrocities and war crimes - since I began posting here. So I haven't changed at all. Perhaps someone has decided to start reading what I am actually writing Produce the evidence.

Politesub53 -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/25/2014 3:45:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Produce the evidence. That reminds me Tweakable, I used to love watching mission impossible. [;)]

PeonForHer -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/25/2014 3:54:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Produce the evidence. That reminds me Tweakable, I used to love watching mission impossible. [;)] God, PS, you are old. [;)]

VideoAdminGamma -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/25/2014 9:47:40 PM)
Fast reply I have pulled some posts for violations of the Community Guidelines. I have also pulled the string of replies to those violations. Calling someone a racist, anti-Semite, or anything similar is considered a personal attack. Please do not do so. If there are any questions please contact me or Chi, and do not to this post. Thank you for being a part of CollarMe, Gamma

MrBukani -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/26/2014 2:52:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle When it comes to war crimes and human rights violations, *both* sides are equally guilty. Anyone who abuses or kills children deserves nio mercy. The guilty parties on *both* sides must be arrested given fair trails and be given severe punishments if found guilty. Lovely change, so you are saying palestinians are equally guilty now. Won't be long before you take the jewish side now...[:D] I've been saying that - that both sides are equally bad when it comes to atrocities and war crimes - since I began posting here. So I haven't changed at all. Perhaps someone has decided to start reading what I am actually writing First off your stories are often long and boring. Secondly we always see negative headers on your threads against Israel. So it's obvious you are taking sides. The fact you are saying now both sides are equally bad is a lie. You don't even believe it yourself. PS I checked your OP nothing bad about Palistinians... Where is your claim to be found exactly?

MrBukani -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/26/2014 3:11:44 AM)
Why do arabs throw stones? Here's your anwer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djdfM30hGoU [:D]

vincentML -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/26/2014 6:39:04 AM)
quote: First off your stories are often long and boring. Secondly we always see negative headers on your threads against Israel. So it's obvious you are taking sides. The fact you are saying now both sides are equally bad is a lie. You don't even believe it yourself. PS I checked your OP nothing bad about Palistinians... Where is your claim to be found exactly? I am confident that Tweak can defend herself without my help but I couldn't resist responding to the points made above. Nobody has the obligation to be entertaining here. If you want entertainment go to a movie, turn on the telly, masturbate. Don't expect us to amuse you. Secondly, so what if she were taking sides? This isn't Faux News. We are under no imperative to be fair and balanced. FFS. [:-]

thishereboi -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/26/2014 6:50:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: First off your stories are often long and boring. Secondly we always see negative headers on your threads against Israel. So it's obvious you are taking sides. The fact you are saying now both sides are equally bad is a lie. You don't even believe it yourself. PS I checked your OP nothing bad about Palistinians... Where is your claim to be found exactly? I am confident that Tweak can defend herself without my help but I couldn't resist responding to the points made above. Nobody has the obligation to be entertaining here. If you want entertainment go to a movie, turn on the telly, masturbate. Don't expect us to amuse you. Secondly, so what if she were taking sides? This isn't Faux News. We are under no imperative to be fair and balanced. FFS. [:-] Funny you would use Fox as an example because they do try to claim to be fair and balanced and I think most who have followed them know that's bullshit. Kinda like this case where the past posting history tells us one thing and the poster tells us another.

EdBowie -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/26/2014 1:38:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Produce the evidence. OK... quote: Ed Bowie: What makes it even worse is that there are Israeli politicians and power mongers who have used the situation to commit atrocities against people who have no choice but to live where they can be denied water, etc. Today, everybody's hands are bloody... But that is no excuse for the approach of denying the full history of the Holocaust.[/I] And: The fact that today's Israeli leaders have turned the notion of struggle for survival into something bad needs to be addressed without pretending that it has nothing to do with the Holocaust. [/I] Your claim: quote: tweakabelle: There's no hyperbole like pro-Zionist hyperbole hey Mr Bowie?

vincentML -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/26/2014 1:55:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: First off your stories are often long and boring. Secondly we always see negative headers on your threads against Israel. So it's obvious you are taking sides. The fact you are saying now both sides are equally bad is a lie. You don't even believe it yourself. PS I checked your OP nothing bad about Palistinians... Where is your claim to be found exactly? I am confident that Tweak can defend herself without my help but I couldn't resist responding to the points made above. Nobody has the obligation to be entertaining here. If you want entertainment go to a movie, turn on the telly, masturbate. Don't expect us to amuse you. Secondly, so what if she were taking sides? This isn't Faux News. We are under no imperative to be fair and balanced. FFS. [:-] Funny you would use Fox as an example because they do try to claim to be fair and balanced and I think most who have followed them know that's bullshit. Kinda like this case where the past posting history tells us one thing and the poster tells us another. You would have an acceptable point if there were a 'fair and balanced' to report. However, Israel has always had a huge asymmetry of power over the Palestinians and has used that power to widen settlements and occupy or intrude into Palestinian villages. Any talk of fair and balanced here is a sham. And a diversion from the OP.

tweakabelle -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/26/2014 2:55:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Produce the evidence. OK... quote: Ed Bowie: What makes it even worse is that there are Israeli politicians and power mongers who have used the situation to commit atrocities against people who have no choice but to live where they can be denied water, etc. Today, everybody's hands are bloody... But that is no excuse for the approach of denying the full history of the Holocaust.[/I] And: The fact that today's Israeli leaders have turned the notion of struggle for survival into something bad needs to be addressed without pretending that it has nothing to do with the Holocaust. [/I] Your claim: quote: tweakabelle: There's no hyperbole like pro-Zionist hyperbole hey Mr Bowie? Even taken at face value, the 'exchange of posts' you have posted above fails to confirm your claim. However this failed attempt is false, deliberately misleading and deceptive. The text that you wrote appearing above was posted in post # 94. My alleged response to this claim appearing above was posted in post # 84. *So the claim your post alleges I made in response to your remarks was made 10 posts before* your claim was posted**. It cannot be a response to your remarks as set out above. My "There's no hyperbole like pro-Zionist hyperbole hey Mr Bowie?" comment was a response to your fanciful claim that the Israel/Palestine conflict was caused by a 90 year campaign by the Muslim Brotherhood to "kill every Jew on the planet", an assertion made only by the more extreme of Right wing Zionists in my experience. Any reading of my post #84 will confirm this. If this attempted deception is the best you can do, you might like to consider remaining silent rather than embarrassing yourself further.

Politesub53 -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/26/2014 4:18:43 PM)
Tweakabelle. It is the old tactic of reposting things out of context, whether that be an article re Palestine on the net, or to the order things were posted in. Much the same as claiming any evidence showing Israeli policy in a bad light is false, even if posted in an Israeli paper.

EdBowie -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/26/2014 4:41:38 PM)
You've lost control. My position (That both sides have done atrocities, and that the Holocaust actually did happen the way the links I provided document), is a matter of record. Whether you like it or not, they are both undeniably true. The Holocaust and its genocidal precursors did happen, and both sides have built on that reality to carry things to the point they are today, atrocities all around. The photographs are not faked, the history is not faked, and you haven't produced a single thing except name calling to back up your claims that those facts are either 'absurd', or 'Pro-Zionu=ist'. Your attack on both of those premises is right there for anyone to read, as is your flip flop. quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Produce the evidence. OK... quote: Ed Bowie: What makes it even worse is that there are Israeli politicians and power mongers who have used the situation to commit atrocities against people who have no choice but to live where they can be denied water, etc. Today, everybody's hands are bloody... But that is no excuse for the approach of denying the full history of the Holocaust.[/I] And: The fact that today's Israeli leaders have turned the notion of struggle for survival into something bad needs to be addressed without pretending that it has nothing to do with the Holocaust. [/I] Your claim: quote: tweakabelle: There's no hyperbole like pro-Zionist hyperbole hey Mr Bowie? Even taken at face value, the 'exchange of posts' you have posted above fails to confirm your claim. However this failed attempt is false, deliberately misleading and deceptive. The text that you wrote appearing above was posted in post # 94. My alleged response to this claim appearing above was posted in post # 84. *So the claim your post alleges I made in response to your remarks was made 10 posts before* your claim was posted**. It cannot be a response to your remarks as set out above. My "There's no hyperbole like pro-Zionist hyperbole hey Mr Bowie?" comment was a response to your fanciful claim that the Israel/Palestine conflict was caused by a 90 year campaign by the Muslim Brotherhood to "kill every Jew on the planet", an assertion made only by the more extreme of Right wing Zionists in my experience. Any reading of my post #84 will confirm this. If this attempted deception is the best you can do, you might like to consider remaining silent rather than embarrassing yourself further.

tweakabelle -> RE: Israel still torturing children (1/26/2014 5:13:09 PM)
In a disturbing development the IDF has been accused of using banned dum-dum bullets. Last March, Mahmoud Adel Faris al-Teiti, 25, was shot in the head during clashes between the IDF and residents of a Palestinian refugee camp. This report credits Reuters Al-Akhbar and Maan new agencies, as well as local media as sources. Dum-dum bullets have long been outlawed and their use is considered a war crime. This is the first time I have seen this allegation levelled against the IDF.

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