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Will the American Empire collapse?


America is and will remain strong for 100+ years
  18% (8)
America is declining in power, collapse in 75 years
  6% (3)
Collapse in 50 years
  13% (6)
Collapse in 25 years
  9% (4)
Collapse in 15 years
  6% (3)
Collapse in 10 years
  11% (5)
The collapse has already happened
  23% (10)
It's hard to say
  9% (4)


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RE: Will the American Empire collapse? - 1/21/2014 8:21:41 PM   
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In the 21st C America controls the seas and provides some assurance of safe passage for oil and other commodities.


Has anybody told the Somalis that?


I seem to recall the USN told that group who attacked the Maersk Alabama something along those lines.

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RE: Will the American Empire collapse? - 1/21/2014 8:26:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		OOOPS....Most importantly.I forgot...certain folks at Goldman sachs (Government sachs), AIG, bear stearns and all of the other fatcat ASSHOLE THIEVES on WALL STREET and International bankers who have Usurped the financial health of the American people...(Corporate welfare and bailouts also deserve a special place.

I was thinking a wealth addict treatment of glicerine and Tabassco suppositories along with chain gangs. NO white collar prisons either. Were talking hardcore slammer time.

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RE: Will the American Empire collapse? - 1/22/2014 12:11:11 PM   
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And US Treasuries bills are totally different?

Okay, China has enough US "holdings", that if they divested themselves of them the US economy would collapse over night.

As I pointed out the reason why China has not yet done that is that "the US is the world's market place and without the the good old USA there would be no place to sell their goods."

So what China and the oil rich countries are doing is "looking for ways to disconnect themselves from the US dollar", which will still collapse the US economy, just slower.


You seem to be debating with yourself. They will, they won't; it will collapse, they don't want it to collapse. When you owe the bank a bunch of uncollateralized debt the bank fears the debtor and it is in the interest of the bank to keep the debtor solvent.

As to your statement that the US is the world's marketplace, ask Apple and Nike how that's working out for them.

I think you will find that the Eurozone is also a significant marketplace.

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RE: Will the American Empire collapse? - 1/22/2014 12:15:36 PM   
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In the 21st C America controls the seas and provides some assurance of safe passage for oil and other commodities.

Has anybody told the Somalis that?


Oh, we will, Moon. As soon as they get their camel caravans organized and join in on the world's trade.

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RE: Will the American Empire collapse? - 1/22/2014 12:20:03 PM   
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I hope and pray the the UNITED STATES INC.

Based on the Federal Reserve system (about as federal as Fed Ex) COMPLETELY and FULLY collapses
and the American public either at last get "a constitutional republic" ..(Id be for that) Or something even better....

Either way...there are certain politicians, congressman, senators, p[olicemen LAWYERS, judges and a few other who i would
absolutely LOVE seeing HANGING from street lamp posts for what they have done.

Not just here but around the world.

Thats my "Rational" view.

It wont collapse quickly enough for me.

Before there was a Federal Reserve there were at least 30 bank runs and a number of severe recessions in our history. What's your point?

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RE: Will the American Empire collapse? - 1/22/2014 4:47:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
In the 21st C America controls the seas and provides some assurance of safe passage for oil and other commodities.

Has anybody told the Somalis that?


Oh, we will, Moon. As soon as they get their camel caravans organized and join in on the world's trade.

That might take a while, Vince: they'll need something some fucker wants to buy first...

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RE: Will the American Empire collapse? - 1/22/2014 6:43:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
In the 21st C America controls the seas and provides some assurance of safe passage for oil and other commodities.

Has anybody told the Somalis that?


Oh, we will, Moon. As soon as they get their camel caravans organized and join in on the world's trade.



I believe Moon was actually referring to the Somali pirates who make a living taking over merchant ships at sea.

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RE: Will the American Empire collapse? - 1/23/2014 12:13:59 AM   
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< Message edited by Pedestrian -- 1/23/2014 12:14:17 AM >

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RE: Will the American Empire collapse? - 1/23/2014 6:56:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML
In the 21st C America controls the seas and provides some assurance of safe passage for oil and other commodities.

Has anybody told the Somalis that?


Oh, we will, Moon. As soon as they get their camel caravans organized and join in on the world's trade.



I believe Moon was actually referring to the Somali pirates who make a living taking over merchant ships at sea.

I was. I'm astonished that needs explaining.
So's the Joker:


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