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ORIGINAL: Dv8Top

...The ability to show respect is a fundamental requirement, at least in my world, of a submissives behavior...why is it that the standard response from the submissives I've attempted to contact is *no response* followed by blocking? ...

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That being the case,why is it that the standard response from the submissives I've attempted to contact is *no response* followed by blocking?

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Well, you made this post so if you write to someone and read through your forum responses, this was the first thing they'd see...

"Hate to jump into a damn interesting Flame War but if you're a "geek" then you know damn well that most threads digress after the first 3 responses, so get over it!

BTW I think you need a SERIOUS attitude adjustment! If you can't play well with other children you need to find a place of your own to play with yourself...

DV8Top

I know I'm an Asshole and I have a number to prove it!! "

That was the very first post listed when I brought up your forum posts and such would not have lead me to read anymore from you.

Combine that with a profile that is a bit on the questionable side as far as 'good manners and social graces', I'm not suprised you garner a block or two without response.

In other words.. it's not them, it's you.

Celeste

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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ORIGINAL: Dv8Top

...The ability to show respect is a fundamental requirement, at least in my world, of a submissives behavior...why is it that the standard response from the submissives I've attempted to contact is *no response* followed by blocking? ...

just going out on a limb here, but perhaps they are not displaying their "inherent" submissive grace and manners because they aren't in "your" world?  not that this slave touts it, but there has been many a post and even a witty little tag line running around these parts that says something to the effect of "i am submissive, but i am not YOUR submissive"...ring a bell?

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ORIGINAL: Dv8Top

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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ORIGINAL: Dv8Top

...The ability to show respect is a fundamental requirement, at least in my world, of a submissives behavior...why is it that the standard response from the submissives I've attempted to contact is *no response* followed by blocking? ...

just going out on a limb here, but perhaps they are not displaying their "inherent" submissive grace and manners because they aren't in "your" world?  not that this slave touts it, but there has been many a post and even a witty little tag line running around these parts that says something to the effect of "i am submissive, but i am not YOUR submissive"...ring a bell?

Very interesting, I'm not asking anyone to be *my* submissive, nor am I demanding, or commanding respect, I am merely questioning a basic principal of civilized humanity, social graces.  True one doen't "need" to have social graces,  but to tell you the truth even my dogs are taught how to act appropriately in society....

George

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So Celeste enlighten me, what is it in my profile that is lacking in good manners and social graces??

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ORIGINAL: Dv8Top

I've always believed that a primary characteristic of a good submissive was social graces and good manners.  The ability to show respect is a fundamental requirement, at least in my world, of a submissives behavior.

That being the case,why is it that the standard response from the submissives I've attempted to contact is *no response* followed by blocking?  I'm not rude, crude, or abusive, my notes have always been respectful...

I'm not bitchin about standard Internet behavior, just wondering how a woman can call herself a submissive and not have social graces, good manners, or simple respect for someone attempting to communicate to respond to a query with a simple "thanks but no thanks", "fuk off" or whatever, but at least acknowledge the senders recognition of the profile YOU posted?

DV8

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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So Celeste enlighten me, what is it in my profile that is lacking in good manners and social graces??

First of all I said it was 'questionable'. When I read your profile and then combined that with the very first post to the forums that popped up, it told the beginning of a story that I woudn't wish to continue to read.

"The last thing I want is to be butting heads with a thick headed Dom like myself day to day, pretty simple isn't it?"
 
You are thick-head (self-admitted) and a bit condescending with this statement ..

This is know as self depricating humor, the act of denegrating ones self to provide a humorous tone to the initial contact in an exchange..I think you'll find most psychologists see this as a healthy sense of self...

as if the person reading it hasn't the wit to figure out for themselves that you are looking for a submissive and not another dominant. This is not bad in and of itself. But.. to continue ..
 
"My interests are listed, less any of you judgemental types say that I'm not "real"!"
 
Again, condescending and apparently designed to be off putting to anyone who you wouldn't consider 'real'. Again, in and of itself, not so bad.

lol a shot at the CM community that sees fit to judge one by the communities concepts of "real" or "poseur"!  in and of itself a comment on the CM community!
 
Combine them, however, with the first post in which you claim yourself an 'asshole' (and yes, taken out of context, but anyone reading your forum post would also take it out of context..

I am a recognized member of a world wide Motorcycle Club called the Assholes..I am an Asshole

which is the point) and have the number to prove it and it may be a reason a submissive would block you without response.
 
There seems to be a certain lack of self-control .. and all one has to go by are your words. I happen to have read all your posts, but if someone stopped after the first one, I wouldn't have been surprised. If they continued to read on, they might get a different idea of you because that isn't the pattern one would get from the totality of your posting. That said, a book is often judged by it's cover and the cover presented isn't all that attractive. It's human nature to judge and, quite honestly, there are a myriad of dominants on line with more attractive covers despite how cute your picture is.. the inside needs to be attractive as well.. but you can't see to the end if you stop reading after the first paragraph.  
 
Celeste

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ORIGINAL: Dv8Top

I learned the protocols of BDSM in San Francisco from friends, and eventually cohorts, in the Lifestyle.  Respectfull communications, the application of good manners and social graces in all environments was a basic skill trained in to all submissives. 

If someone presents themselves to me as a submissive I expect them to have those same good manners and social graces.

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If someone presents themselves to me as a submissive I expect them to have those same good manners and social graces.

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WRT the out of context quote, the poster I was responding to in that exchange was acting as a petulant child, my response was the same I would give to anyone in that situation...

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

All I see is someone that asked a question but when its answered honestly they don't like the answer. Over the period of time I have been cruising the forum here I have come to enjoy Celeste's posts for their humour and respect her for her ability to call it exactly as she sees it. None of that has anything to do with her being a submissive or slave but as one cool woman.
George, you asked a question, Celeste gave an honest answer based on the information YOU have provided. If I were you, which of course I am not as I have never felt the need to ask that particular question and I certainly do not share any of your opinions, I would take the answer to heart and use it in the purpose it was intended.....to assist you in solving your apparent problem.