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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 4:21:52 AM   
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I think some right wing characters like Putin for the same reason Obamanoids like Obama: Putin is an illusionist. Putin Russia is a full-blown fascist state, Obama USA is moving towards a fascist state. Putin said to Russian Oligarchy dozen of years ago: "You are as rich as we (Putin plus security apparatus) allow you to be". BTW: some anti-Obama left wingers like Putin as well. Perhaps the rationale is Putin being actually in charge vs. Obama the puppet.

Well put.

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 4:52:33 AM   
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BTW: some anti-Obama left wingers like Putin as well.

Who's that then?
(Pics or it didn't happen.)

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 5:15:20 AM   
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I guess it's not a new thing for the right to love themselves some dictators, though they were usually ones that promised to fight communism/socialism for us at any cost.



Oh shit I must have missed that rule in the "rightist" handbook. Thanks for the heads up. Now that that's cleared up can I pick which dictator I love or do I have to go with Putin like 59 suggested because he is a bit of an ass and I think I want to love on a different one. And another quick question, do I have to tell all the other conservatives I know that they have to start loving on a dictator or are you and 59 going to take on that job? I mean I know that you seem to think they love themselves some dictators but from the conversations I am hearing they seem to have missed the memo also.

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 10:44:57 AM   
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Who's that then?

Here are some arguments about Putin's progressiveness.
http://canadiandimension.com/articles/5281/
Some US classical progressives are buying exactly that. For example Lyndon LaRouche group:
http://larouchepac.com/
Also, Putin is seen as anti-war (especially for preventing Obama to bomb Syria). It attracts a few Democrats who are for peace. Putin actually is a war criminal, not anti war. The truth does not matter.

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 10:46:49 AM   
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I think some right wing characters like Putin for the same reason Obamanoids like Obama: Putin is an illusionist. Putin Russia is a full-blown fascist state, Obama USA is moving towards a fascist state. Putin said to Russian Oligarchy dozen of years ago: "You are as rich as we (Putin plus security apparatus) allow you to be". BTW: some anti-Obama left wingers like Putin as well. Perhaps the rationale is Putin being actually in charge vs. Obama the puppet.

Could you point out a leftist somewhere who like Putin?

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 10:51:17 AM   
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Who's that then?

Here are some arguments about Putin's progressiveness.
http://canadiandimension.com/articles/5281/
Some US classical progressives are buying exactly that. For example Lyndon LaRouche group:
http://larouchepac.com/
Also, Putin is seen as anti-war (especially for preventing Obama to bomb Syria). It attracts a few Democrats who are for peace. Putin actually is a war criminal, not anti war. The truth does not matter.

LaRouche is not a progressive he's a nut. and Putin is not anti war. He's fought a nasty war in against Georgia and a long running one against the Chechen's.

The Canadian article is from a guy writing 7 years ago. No one would make such claims today when Putin has become nothing but a dictatorial thug.

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 11:11:50 AM   
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LaRouche is not a progressive he's a nut.

LaRouche is very classic progressive, you can not get more progressive than LaRouche.

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 11:14:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		LaRouche is a little funny though, he pretends like they are a parallel idle government waiting to take over.

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 11:17:42 AM   
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Who's that then?

Here are some arguments about Putin's progressiveness.
http://canadiandimension.com/articles/5281/
Some US classical progressives are buying exactly that. For example Lyndon LaRouche group:
http://larouchepac.com/
Also, Putin is seen as anti-war (especially for preventing Obama to bomb Syria). It attracts a few Democrats who are for peace. Putin actually is a war criminal, not anti war. The truth does not matter.

Larouche is a progressive like I'm Pol Pot.
Putin is seen as an obstructivist arsewit who hates America (which is presumably why the neocons in the GOP like him so much) for blocking the Syria thing. I'd hope that these alleged "pro peace" Democrats noticed that, but then hypothetical groups like that are at the mercy of deliberate misinterpretation to provide a brush to tar the rest of the other side with. That's why people like you invent them in the first place.

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 11:22:20 AM   
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LaRouche is not a progressive he's a nut.

LaRouche is very classic progressive, you can not get more progressive than LaRouche.

Nope. LaRouche is a conspiracy lunatic.

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 3:55:21 PM   
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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/8/2014 4:04:45 PM   
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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/10/2014 3:23:43 AM   
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LaRouche is not a progressive he's a nut.

LaRouche is very classic progressive, you can not get more progressive than LaRouche.

Nope. LaRouche is a conspiracy lunatic.



Dom Ken, La Rouche is as *Left* as *Left* can get!
Doesn't he believe in,....."global warming?" (or whatever they're calling it this week?)

Now who'd you rather hang out with for a weekend, Erkel or Putin?
If it's Erkel you'd follow him around as he kissed a few babies and things like that.
""Hold on, a phone call; "Yes Eric, send the cartels down some more guns, and bump up the price again."
Then, you could watch him sign some things and at 10 pm he's out in back sneaking a ciggy and then bed.
Now if you were hanging out with Putin it'd be horseback and motorcycle riding, maybe check out a new tank!
Camp out at a nice lake for the night with catered chow and two gorgeous, long legged, fire-breathing whores for each guy!
Then night clubbing with more gorgeous women and free vodka.
The cops wouldn't even fuck with you, "I'm with Putin!"
"Oh,...nostrovia! Da! Da!"
Next day you race some of his cars on a cross country track then it's down to the red sea in his private jet stocked with,.....vodka, beer and long-legged, gorgeous, fire breathing whores!
Hell, if you got "lucky" with Erkel he might take you for a limo ride, do a few lines of coke, and let him suck your cock!
Like I said, nothing to think about!

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/10/2014 5:47:23 PM   
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Also, Putin is seen as anti-war (especially for preventing Obama to bomb Syria). It attracts a few Democrats who are for peace.


I don't think anyone with even half a brain, democrat or GOP, honestly thinks Putin is anti-war. Putin is ANTI-US and doesn't even try to hide it. He only wants to use international norms to constrain our behavior because the Russian military lacks the strength to do so directly. He'd never let himself be inconvenienced in the slightest by those same norms. Of course he argued against us attacking Syria- they are a Russian client state. That hardly puts him in contention for any peace prizes.

He ground the city of Grozny into powder a decade ago without batting an eye, and had a pretty good time shooting up Georgia in the more recent past. I'd venture that he is more cold-blooded in the application of military force than either Obama (who had the stones to go after Bin Laden and has also be hard-nosed about unrelenting attritional drone strikes on Al Qaeda generally) or GW Bush (who rolled us into Afghanistan and Iraq both). Putin just lacks the means to fully express himself (although a quick romp through Ukraine was probably recently subtly threatened, given how the government there suddenly veered away from economic integration with Europe).

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/10/2014 6:13:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FellowSlave

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LaRouche is not a progressive he's a nut.

LaRouche is very classic progressive, you can not get more progressive than LaRouche.



Sorry dude...LaRouche is straight up bat guano crazy...


Saying he has any credibility or a following, progressive or otherwise is going to make you seem completely mis-informed and clueless.

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/10/2014 6:20:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FellowSlave

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LaRouche is not a progressive he's a nut.

LaRouche is very classic progressive, you can not get more progressive than LaRouche.

Nope. LaRouche is a conspiracy lunatic.



Dom Ken, La Rouche is as *Left* as *Left* can get!
Doesn't he believe in,....."global warming?" (or whatever they're calling it this week?)

Now who'd you rather hang out with for a weekend, Erkel or Putin?
If it's Erkel you'd follow him around as he kissed a few babies and things like that.
""Hold on, a phone call; "Yes Eric, send the cartels down some more guns, and bump up the price again."
Then, you could watch him sign some things and at 10 pm he's out in back sneaking a ciggy and then bed.
Now if you were hanging out with Putin it'd be horseback and motorcycle riding, maybe check out a new tank!
Camp out at a nice lake for the night with catered chow and two gorgeous, long legged, fire-breathing whores for each guy!
Then night clubbing with more gorgeous women and free vodka.
The cops wouldn't even fuck with you, "I'm with Putin!"
"Oh,...nostrovia! Da! Da!"
Next day you race some of his cars on a cross country track then it's down to the red sea in his private jet stocked with,.....vodka, beer and long-legged, gorgeous, fire breathing whores!
Hell, if you got "lucky" with Erkel he might take you for a limo ride, do a few lines of coke, and let him suck your cock!
Like I said, nothing to think about!



The ruskies for better or worse are our freindemies ....


Putin is a powerful thug who runs a thugocracy....


It`s because putin is a bully.....as well as a homophobe, that our rightist fawn over him....

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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/12/2014 8:20:00 AM   
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"Fox's Ben Carson: Putin Is Right For Calling America "Godless"


It shows that neither of these POS knows jack about America...




http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/02/12/foxs-ben-carson-putin-is-right-for-calling-amer/198028




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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/12/2014 10:53:34 AM   
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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/13/2014 7:40:02 AM   
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RE: Why do rightists have a man-chrush on putin? - 2/13/2014 7:56:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: FellowSlave

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LaRouche is not a progressive he's a nut.

LaRouche is very classic progressive, you can not get more progressive than LaRouche.

Nope. LaRouche is a conspiracy lunatic.



Dom Ken, La Rouche is as *Left* as *Left* can get!
Doesn't he believe in,....."global warming?" (or whatever they're calling it this week?)

Now who'd you rather hang out with for a weekend, Erkel or Putin?
If it's Erkel you'd follow him around as he kissed a few babies and things like that.
""Hold on, a phone call; "Yes Eric, send the cartels down some more guns, and bump up the price again."
Then, you could watch him sign some things and at 10 pm he's out in back sneaking a ciggy and then bed.
Now if you were hanging out with Putin it'd be horseback and motorcycle riding, maybe check out a new tank!
Camp out at a nice lake for the night with catered chow and two gorgeous, long legged, fire-breathing whores for each guy!
Then night clubbing with more gorgeous women and free vodka.
The cops wouldn't even fuck with you, "I'm with Putin!"
"Oh,...nostrovia! Da! Da!"
Next day you race some of his cars on a cross country track then it's down to the red sea in his private jet stocked with,.....vodka, beer and long-legged, gorgeous, fire breathing whores!
Hell, if you got "lucky" with Erkel he might take you for a limo ride, do a few lines of coke, and let him suck your cock!
Like I said, nothing to think about!



The ruskies for better or worse are our freindemies ....


Putin is a powerful thug who runs a thugocracy....


It`s because putin is a bully.....as well as a homophobe, that our rightist fawn over him....



That's an interesting view. According to this http://www.gallup.com/poll/164438/first-time-americans-views-russia-turn-negative.aspx there aren't a whole lot of people on either side of the fence who care for the man. "Americans' opinions of Putin are declining as well. Currently, 19% view Putin favorably, while 54% hold an unfavorable opinion of him." Kinda puts your claim that "rightists" have some kind of crush on him in a more realistic light.

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