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DomKen -> RE: Evolution/Creation debate (2/6/2014 7:33:01 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Marc2b
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The problem is the Gish Gallop.
The creationist will throw out lies at a ferocious pace on a wide variety of scientific topics that no single scientist could possibly be prepared to refute.
An example by the "creator"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx6UKslLPso
which is why most people involved in the science education side of this think these "debates" are a waste of time.
I'm well aware of the creationist tactics designed to hide the fact that they're full of shit. I am also aware that many in the scientific community consider debating creationists to be giving them a credibility they don't deserve.
But the fact remains that far to many Americans don't understand why creationists are idiots when they say things like "evolution is only a theory," or "evolution can't explain the origins of life." The scientific community
needs to be more proactive in educating the public about science and the scientific method. This is a battle that needs to be waged in the schools, the courts, and the public sphere (to be fair, many are already waging this battle but things need to be stepped up).
Debates would be part of that battle. All of it broadcasted live.
The debate I would like to see? Three of the top (good debaters as well as scientifically brilliant) scientists - Tyson, Dawkins (if he can be convinced), and ? - versus three "top" creationists. Each team would have three backup members - Aron Ra, ?, ? - with access to the internet
and whatever research ("research" in the creationists case) they desire. This would not leave the burden of having to be omnipotent on one person. A three hour long debate (with a midway break of course) with opening statements, questions to each other, questions from the audience,
and closing statements.
And one more thing . . . no mercy for the creationists. Exposes them liars and idiots they are.
I think you will find that no creationist will agree to that sort of debate. They want the sort that happened between Nye and Ham. 2 guys behind podiums with a time limit and no ability to research the others claims. The scum over at answersingenesis (Ham's group) are claiming victory even now because the fools who send them money believe them when they tell them that every thing Nye couldn't refute is true.
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