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Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 6:55:46 PM   
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JACKSONVILLE — A Florida jury found a software engineer guilty of attempted murder and shooting into a car full of teenagers, but they could not agree on first-degree murder in the death of one of the teenaged boys.

Thirty-one hours after deliberations over four days, a jury could not decide if Michael David Dunn, 47, was guilty of first-degree murder in the shooting death of Jordan Davis, 17, during a confrontation over loud rap music in a Jacksonville gas station parking lot.

Circuit Judge Russell Healey declared a mistrial on the first-degree murder count. State Attorney Angela Corey said after the verdict that her office would retry Dunn for first-degree murder.

The jury found Dunn guilty of three counts of attempted second-degree murder, each of which carries a 20-year minimum mandatory sentence. He was also found guilty of shooting a deadly missile during the November 2012 confrontation. That count is punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

Dunn shot and killed Davis, who was sitting in his SUV with three of his friends. Dunn fired at the vehicle 10 times, hitting it nine times. He says he acted in self-defense.

The trial was the latest Florida case to raise questions about self-defense and race; Dunn is white and the teens were black. It came six months after George Zimmerman was acquitted of any crime for fatally shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, about 125 miles south of Jacksonville. The Dunn trial was prosecuted by the same State Attorney's Office as was the Zimmerman case.

Dunn showed no emotion as the verdicts were read. Davis' parents each left the courtroom in tears.

Healey announced late Saturday afternoon that the jury had reached a verdict on four of the five counts, but the jurors said they were unable to reach a unanimous verdict on count 1 — first-degree murder — or any of its lesser included offenses.

Healey brought the jurors into the courtroom and recited them an Allen charge, which is an instruction to continue deliberations and make a decision.

"By law, I cannot demand this of you, but I want you to go back into the jury room," he told the jurors.

He encouraged them to talk about "any weaknesses of your own position" and to "not interrupt each other or comment on each other's views until each of you has had a chance to talk."

After that, "if you simply cannot reach a verdict, then return to the courtroom and I will declare this case mistried as to that count," he said.

Healey recited their latest question: "We have reviewed the weaknesses of our position, and have more to talk about. If we are unable to agree and reach a verdict, is the entire case mistried or is the single count mistried?"

He told them only the single count would be mistried, not the entire case. The question came less than two hours after the jury announced it had reached a verdict on four of the five counts.

Dunn faced charges of first-degree murder, three counts of first-degree attempted murder, and one count of shooting or throwing a deadly missile. Jurors also were given the option of considering lesser charges of second-degree murder, manslaughter, second-degree attempted murder and attempted manslaughter.

Prosecutors said Dunn fired 10 bullets at a sport-utility vehicle containing Davis and three other black teenagers. Dunn testified on the witness stand that he feared for his life and thought Davis was armed with a shotgun. But detectives said no weapon was found in the SUV.

Dunn's trial started Feb. 3, and jury deliberations began Wednesday. About 4:50 p.m. Friday, Healey announced that the jury had a question: Is it possible to not reach a verdict on one count and reach a verdict on other counts?

"The answer to that is yes," Healey said.

If jurors deadlock on a count, for example, Healey said jurors could publish verdicts on the other four counts. A mistrial would be declared on the deadlocked count. Prosecutors could later retry Dunn on that count, at their discretion.

Including meal breaks, the jury deliberated about three hours Wednesday and nearly nine hours Thursday before resuming work about 9 a.m. Friday. The jury is composed of four white men, four white women, two black women, one Asian female and one Hispanic man. There are also four alternate jurors.

At 6:50 p.m. Friday, the jury told Healey that it had "reached a wall." Deliberations ended for the night, and the jurors were driven back to their hotel.

"This is one admirable group, I'm telling you what," Healey said. "They're clearly taking this thing as seriously as they should. And I couldn't be more proud for how hard they're working and the number of hours that they've been deliberating to try and resolve this case."

Dunn's jury has now deliberated longer than their counterparts during Central Florida's Casey Anthony and George Zimmerman trials. Journalists and spectators passed time Friday on the fourth floor of the Duval County Courthouse, looking at their phones and taking brief walks to stretch their legs.

Based on his research, Healey said it appears that jury deliberations can continue on Sunday, if necessary. Sunday would have been Davis' 19th birthday.

"We don't really want the jury's verdict to come down on his birthday. But it may be that way," his father, Ron Davis, said on the courthouse steps after deliberations ended.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/15/michael-dunn-jury/5501117/

Im so glad this didnt go the way of zimmy....
wait to see the retrial results, but hes gonna go away for a long time
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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 7:21:24 PM   
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The answer, clearly, is to make it a crime to own, control, or operate a vehicle having in or on itself a sound system capable of producing more than, say, 80 decibels.

First offense could be loss of license for a year
Second offense, vehicle confiscation

Problem solved

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 7:26:01 PM   
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great selling point on anything over 80 decibels..
!!!!!!!!!!!Buy this * WARNING* May encourage crazy people with guns shooting in your general direction!!!!!!

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 7:28:25 PM   
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I was just reading all of the different articles Lucy. By the looks of it just on these convictions alone, he should be sitting in a comfortable cell for a very long time.

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 7:28:59 PM   
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I am not thoroughly versed on the case; but based on what little I do know.... why did they hang up?

Seems guilty to me....

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 7:31:33 PM   
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I was just reading all of the different articles Lucy. By the looks of it just on these convictions alone, he should be sitting in a comfortable cell for a very long time.

I got to 70 years n stopped counting, that seems fair enough for me.....

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 7:34:01 PM   
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Ok. Was there a point of discussion you wanted to offer, Lucy?

He goes to prison for a long time.

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 7:37:09 PM   
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My sentiments exactly. If the DA amends the 1st degree to a lessor charge of 2nd degree and goes back to trial, I think another jury will find him guilty one would hope. To know that man will be off the streets for what would be the remainder of his natural life is satisfactory, however, I'm sure the parents of the young man that was murdered would like to see it different.

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 7:38:19 PM   
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I couldnt expect more from you if I tried, thank you for your wisdom and selflessness as arbiter of topics great and small
have a great weekend.

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 7:55:24 PM   
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I couldnt expect more from you if I tried, thank you for your wisdom and selflessness as arbiter of topics great and small
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You are most welcome, Lucy.

Try to remember, it's innocent until proven guilty, the way we do it in my country. That does make a difference in these things.

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 8:44:52 PM   
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My sentiments exactly. If the DA amends the 1st degree to a lessor charge of 2nd degree and goes back to trial, I think another jury will find him guilty one would hope. To know that man will be off the streets for what would be the remainder of his natural life is satisfactory, however, I'm sure the parents of the young man that was murdered would like to see it different.

They should go back and ask for end and manslaughter, I don't see how the jury could fail to put him away
then.
During the Zimmerman trial they pointed out that with the use of a firearm and the age of the victim manslaughter
would be over 20 years.
Doesn't seem they wanted to let him off they just thought 1st degree wasn't met.


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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 8:45:56 PM   
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My sentiments exactly. If the DA amends the 1st degree to a lessor charge of 2nd degree and goes back to trial, I think another jury will find him guilty one would hope. To know that man will be off the streets for what would be the remainder of his natural life is satisfactory, however, I'm sure the parents of the young man that was murdered would like to see it different.

The murder charge included 2nd degree. Apparently at least one juror held out for a complete acquittal.

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 8:49:44 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DominantWoman65

My sentiments exactly. If the DA amends the 1st degree to a lessor charge of 2nd degree and goes back to trial, I think another jury will find him guilty one would hope. To know that man will be off the streets for what would be the remainder of his natural life is satisfactory, however, I'm sure the parents of the young man that was murdered would like to see it different.

The murder charge included 2nd degree. Apparently at least one juror held out for a complete acquittal.

That makes no sense.

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 8:53:28 PM   
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It's nothing new for prosecutors to over-charge. They do it to try and get plea bargains and because it helps them "make their bones".

This is one of those cases, though, where the prosecutor would have been much better off with aggravated manslaughter. It would have been a slam-dunk.

"Intent follows the bullet". He may not have meant to kill anyone (premeditation being a necessary factor for 1st degree) but, his action (firing a weapon into a car) caused a death. Case closed, your honor.

This prosecutor has her own troubled history.





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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 9:04:56 PM   
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I just read where the jury had the option for 2nd degree or manslaughter. The DA stated they were going to retry again on 1st.

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 9:07:28 PM   
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Apparently at least one juror held out for a complete acquittal.



Or at least one insisted the defendant intended to kill someone from the beginning of the encounter.

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 9:09:56 PM   
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I just read where the jury had the option for 2nd degree or manslaughter. The DA stated they were going to retry again on 1st.



This is something that bothers me in our legal system. It's almost as if the government is saying: "Well, the government brought 1st degree and we couldn't prove it so, go ahead and convict him of something else".

Just try the fucking the case that the evidence supports.





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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 9:15:03 PM   
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I agree. I didn't see why they went with 1st degree in the first place, that was a hard mountain to climb.


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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 9:23:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DominantWoman65

My sentiments exactly. If the DA amends the 1st degree to a lessor charge of 2nd degree and goes back to trial, I think another jury will find him guilty one would hope. To know that man will be off the streets for what would be the remainder of his natural life is satisfactory, however, I'm sure the parents of the young man that was murdered would like to see it different.

The murder charge included 2nd degree. Apparently at least one juror held out for a complete acquittal.

That makes no sense.

Nothing makes sense under SYG.

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RE: Jury couldn't agree on 1st-degree - 2/15/2014 9:53:38 PM   
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It's nothing new for prosecutors to over-charge. They do it to try and get plea bargains and because it helps them "make their bones".

This is one of those cases, though, where the prosecutor would have been much better off with aggravated manslaughter. It would have been a slam-dunk.

"Intent follows the bullet". He may not have meant to kill anyone (premeditation being a necessary factor for 1st degree) but, his action (firing a weapon into a car) caused a death. Case closed, your honor.

This prosecutor has her own troubled history.





No proof of intent had to be the sticking point.

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