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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

You dont get it Ken....... The meme is shoot first and ask questions later, otherwise you are a pussy..... [;)]

Well I'm sure nobody means you. We know you have a dick, because you walked in here with it out.

K.

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The 72 year old man was confused and in need of assistance. Unless of course you consider him an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction only stoppable by 4 rounds to the chest. I certainly don't. I'm certainly a blanket wrapped around the chest, a cup of coffee, some calm words and patience until the police arrived would have worked.


So when proved wrong you try to change the POV how yankee of you.
You are clearly unaware that Alzhiemer's victims can get quite violent, he is armed, and he thinks he is defending
his home.
Four shots were fired one hit.

He was 72 years old and had been out in the cold for at least 4 hours. He was not going to put up much of a fight even with a flashlight. I'm not such coward that a frail old man has to be shot if he swings a flashlight at me, are you?

Let a 72 year old hit you up side of the head with a flashlight and get back to me.
Hendrix had no way of knowing how long Westbrook had been out in the cold.

I've been hit by younger men and never had the need to shoot them.

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But it was Hendrix who was doing the defending

No. Hendrix was doing the attacking. Let's face it, Bama, this was yet another situation in which some aggressive, paranoid berk was able to wrap himself up in the Second Amendment and all the state's protection flowing from it in order to make it look like 'defence'. He had a gun, ready to hand, because he likes his gun and likes what it can do. He didn't have a flashlight to hand in order to see that the man was old and had a flashlight rather than a gun . . . because he doesn't care about flashlights and see no relevance.

The matter of this old man having Alzheimer's is a side issue, to me. What I can't get is why the killer here made too little an effort to evaluate the situation.

Flashlights have been around for a very long time, now. For me, it is *not* an excuse that one is not to hand on a dark night at a time when you need to determine whether someone requires being shot at, or not.

In what lunatic world do you have a gun at the ready - cleaned, primed, loaded - to shoot at someone in the dark - but no flashlight so that you can *properly see* the person you're shooting at? It should not be an acceptable excuse that he thought that the old man's flashlight was a gun, because he couldn't see it properly. That is disgraceful.

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The 72 year old man was confused and in need of assistance. Unless of course you consider him an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction only stoppable by 4 rounds to the chest. I certainly don't. I'm certainly a blanket wrapped around the chest, a cup of coffee, some calm words and patience until the police arrived would have worked.


So when proved wrong you try to change the POV how yankee of you.
You are clearly unaware that Alzhiemer's victims can get quite violent, he is armed, and he thinks he is defending
his home.
Four shots were fired one hit.

He was 72 years old and had been out in the cold for at least 4 hours. He was not going to put up much of a fight even with a flashlight. I'm not such coward that a frail old man has to be shot if he swings a flashlight at me, are you?

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

The 72 year old man was confused and in need of assistance. Unless of course you consider him an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction only stoppable by 4 rounds to the chest. I certainly don't. I'm certainly a blanket wrapped around the chest, a cup of coffee, some calm words and patience until the police arrived would have worked.


So when proved wrong you try to change the POV how yankee of you.
You are clearly unaware that Alzhiemer's victims can get quite violent, he is armed, and he thinks he is defending
his home.
Four shots were fired one hit.

He was 72 years old and had been out in the cold for at least 4 hours. He was not going to put up much of a fight even with a flashlight. I'm not such coward that a frail old man has to be shot if he swings a flashlight at me, are you?

Let a 72 year old hit you up side of the head with a flashlight and get back to me.
Hendrix had no way of knowing how long Westbrook had been out in the cold.

I've been hit by younger men and never had the need to shoot them.

With their hand or a flashlight?
I suspect you are being disingenuous again.

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FR

Why wasn't Westbrook's flashlight on, wouldn't that have solved everything?

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You dont get it Ken....... The meme is shoot first and ask questions later, otherwise you are a pussy..... [;)]

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my brother

Obviously your graduate program didn't require an MAT.

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Can you not learn to use the quote system??
Reading your posts is awkward.
If the buttons don't work, just type it to quote.

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But it was Hendrix who was doing the defending

No. Hendrix was doing the attacking. Let's face it, Bama, this was yet another situation in which some aggressive, paranoid berk was able to wrap himself up in the Second Amendment and all the state's protection flowing from it in order to make it look like 'defence'. He had a gun, ready to hand, because he likes his gun and likes what it can do. He didn't have a flashlight to hand in order to see that the man was old and had a flashlight rather than a gun . . . because he doesn't care about flashlights and see no relevance.

The matter of this old man having Alzheimer's is a side issue, to me. What I can't get is why the killer here made too little an effort to evaluate the situation.

Flashlights have been around for a very long time, now. For me, it is *not* an excuse that one is not to hand on a dark night at a time when you need to determine whether someone requires being shot at, or not.

In what lunatic world do you have a gun at the ready - cleaned, primed, loaded - to shoot at someone in the dark - but no flashlight so that you can *properly see* the person you're shooting at? It should not be an acceptable excuse that he thought that the old man's flashlight was a gun, because he couldn't see it properly. That is disgraceful.

Bad news somebody else said that.

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But it was Hendrix who was doing the defending

No. Hendrix was doing the attacking. Let's face it, Bama, this was yet another situation in which some aggressive, paranoid berk was able to wrap himself up in the Second Amendment and all the state's protection flowing from it in order to make it look like 'defence'. He had a gun, ready to hand, because he likes his gun and likes what it can do. He didn't have a flashlight to hand in order to see that the man was old and had a flashlight rather than a gun . . . because he doesn't care about flashlights and see no relevance.

The matter of this old man having Alzheimer's is a side issue, to me. What I can't get is why the killer here made too little an effort to evaluate the situation.

Flashlights have been around for a very long time, now. For me, it is *not* an excuse that one is not to hand on a dark night at a time when you need to determine whether someone requires being shot at, or not.

In what lunatic world do you have a gun at the ready - cleaned, primed, loaded - to shoot at someone in the dark - but no flashlight so that you can *properly see* the person you're shooting at? It should not be an acceptable excuse that he thought that the old man's flashlight was a gun, because he couldn't see it properly. That is disgraceful.

Bad news somebody else said that.

Yes, that 'somebody else' was me, Bama, much earlier in this thread. And you didn't respond to my comment that time, either.

On the other hand, you *have* mentioned elsewhere that, as a fundamental principal, it's incumbent on the shooter to be able to see what he is shooting at. In this case, the shooter did not know what he was shooting at. This is evidenced by his being unable to distinguish between a gun and an unlit flashlight. He could have seen what he was shooting at if he'd had a working flashlight. He did not. All he had - or all he cared about having - was a working gun.

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For your edification Hendrix was actually but in his mind Westbrook was defending his home.