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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 3:14:46 AM   
FieryOpal


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Why is not wanting to be with someone old enough to be your father a generalization? I don't "generalize" that there is anything wrong with those guys, it's just that I'm creeped out by the idea of fucking someone who could be my father.

Which is precisely why it creeps me out to be with a guy who's way too young for me, or to get into any sort of Mommy/son play.

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 3:28:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Why is not wanting to be with someone old enough to be your father a generalization? I don't "generalize" that there is anything wrong with those guys, it's just that I'm creeped out by the idea of fucking someone who could be my father.

Which is precisely why it creeps me out to be with a guy who's way too young for me, or to get into any sort of Mommy/son play.


Agreeing with FieryOpal

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 8:49:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Speaking as an "old fart" I can assure you that what looked good to you at age 16 still looks good to you at age 60.

As to the old farts that are obnoxious when rejected. I have a feeling that those fellows were the ones when young, always got what they wanted and never accepted "no" as an answer. The people who, as adults, threw tantrums whenever questioned or denied. (screaming manager types)

Is it any surprise that when they get of an age to have a bad case of IYG syndrome (Invisible to Young Girls) they react with denial and tantrums?

Never having been required to mature; is it any surprise that they point at anything that catches their eye, scream "gimme, gimme, gimme" and roll on the floor kicking and screaming when told "NO"

For myself, if I see something interesting in a profile, I may write to comment or ask questions. If I read something I like; I may write and praise. I don't have an inclination to troll for play partners younger than my daughters (they are approaching 30). But, if serendipity struck I doubt I would be screaming for help. <evil grin>

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 9:10:53 AM   
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I don't know if this exists; I don't frequent the forums often as my wrists are slapped almost everytime I post, but there needs to be a "Rant Only" area for folks who want to talk about general annoyances of CM-- like the OP did with her post.

Forgive me if this seems a little "duh," I'm not around here much, and I'm sure it exists already and I'm not seeing it.

This forum and Polls and Random Stupidity exist for this very reason. Hold your hands out now...

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 10:02:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Someone care to explain why a sub who expresses a desire for younger men will check out a 53 year old's profile?

Granted part of it is basically an intelligence and humor test, but anyway.

Men, as well as women, can be old in body, young at heart and occasionally think they are "all that" and "ten feet tall and bullet proof."

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 10:41:15 AM   
Zonie63


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ORIGINAL: MsStrangely

Just the pure disrespect I'm receiving from the over 50 men. I tell them I'm not interested and suddenly that makes me a " little Bitch Cunt". It is disgusting, I feel like I have to just block anyone I turn down. I've only been on the scene two and an half years, perhaps with time it is something I'll be use to...


A lot of it seems to be just general internet stupidity which also takes some getting used to. If someone says they're interested in people only of a certain age group, then others should respect that. If they don't, then they're just trolls and idiots, and what they say doesn't matter. Internet idiots don't count. They mean nothing.

There's no reason to take anything they say personally, because they're just assholes in general. They're usually that way every day, with nearly every person they deal with, to some degree or another. If they're not sending cranky e-mails, then they're trolling message boards or bawling out the clerk at the grocery store or yelling at the cashier at McDonald's. They're the ones living in a world of shit. They're sick and disgusted by everything, so they want everyone else to be just as sick and disgusted as they are. Misery loves company.

And some people are just plain mentally ill. It's like, if you see a guy walking down the street, dressed as Napoleon and going around saying "I am Napoleon! Bow down before me." Even if he started getting nasty and calling people names, it wouldn't really mean as much, since the guy is clearly demented and with a skewed perception of reality. I actually tend to feel sorry for people like that, and whatever they say, whatever insults they give just don't really mean anything.

Besides, if someone is going to insult me, they better be damn good at what they do. Amateurish, low-brow, teenage level insults are exceedingly boring and ineffective. I would prefer professionally-written, well-crafted insults.

I don't know if it's anything specific to older men, although I suppose if one is bitter and nasty anyway, those qualities might become more intensified as one ages. I just turned 50 myself, although I don't really see myself turning into some crotchety old man, bellowing at the neighborhood kids to keep off the lawn and talking about how "back in my day, we had it rough."

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 10:55:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		It doesn't happen, as much now but, back when I was 44 or 45, I would get messages from ladies and I would go to look at their profile and there would be the words: "No one over 40 years old ..."

I would read the whole profile and see if - maybe - it was a matter of not necessarily being a "hard limit" but a rule of thumb.

Using my usual filters (things in common, physical attraction, etc.), if the profile showed promise, I would send a response.

In that response, I would ask about the age range thing. It's a reasonable question, when someone appears to be going outside their "comfort zone".

In a couple of instances, I would get replies like: "Then, why did you even bother responding?" and words to the affect of how they were "doing me a favor" or "throwing an old dog a bone".

Unfortunately, there's a large number of people that don't see relationships the way we, as individuals, do (or we'd be coupling with a lot more people, I think).

There's also a large portion of people that have no clue what etiquette is or just common manners.

I miss Emily Post.





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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 11:02:23 AM   
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Speaking as an "old fart" I can assure you that what looked good to you at age 16 still looks good to you at age 60.



Maybe that is true for you, but it certainly isn't true for all. The young men who looked good to me when I was 16 look like children to me now, and carry zero appeal for that reason. I am not the only such person. I believe a book was written about someone whose sexual tastes did not mature along with him.

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 11:12:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't find 16-year-olds attractive at all. There are exceptions, I imagine -- girls who if they told me they were 16 I would be surprised because they look and act older. But 99% of them, no.

I actually measure the low end of my range in a non-age way. She has to have been in the work force for at least a year. So recent college grads and even some college students are included, but stay-at-home moms are not, nor are women living off alimony.

There's a certain maturity that comes from paying your own bills that I find attractive.

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 11:22:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I don't find 16-year-olds attractive at all. There are exceptions, I imagine -- girls who if they told me they were 16 I would be surprised because they look and act older. But 99% of them, no.

I actually measure the low end of my range in a non-age way. She has to have been in the work force for at least a year. So recent college grads and even some college students are included, but stay-at-home moms are not, nor are women living off alimony.

There's a certain maturity that comes from paying your own bills that I find attractive.


I like your measurement scale. I use it too, but sadly I find it weeds out as many men on the high end of my scale as on the low end

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 1:49:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

It doesn't happen, as much now but, back when I was 44 or 45, I would get messages from ladies and I would go to look at their profile and there would be the words: "No one over 40 years old ..."

I would read the whole profile and see if - maybe - it was a matter of not necessarily being a "hard limit" but a rule of thumb.

Using my usual filters (things in common, physical attraction, etc.), if the profile showed promise, I would send a response.

In that response, I would ask about the age range thing. It's a reasonable question, when someone appears to be going outside their "comfort zone".

In a couple of instances, I would get replies like: "Then, why did you even bother responding?" and words to the affect of how they were "doing me a favor" or "throwing an old dog a bone".

Unfortunately, there's a large number of people that don't see relationships the way we, as individuals, do (or we'd be coupling with a lot more people, I think).

There's also a large portion of people that have no clue what etiquette is or just common manners.

I miss Emily Post.






I would have to agree with this. As most guys on here if a woman of any age sends them a message, even the obligatory "stranded slave in Rowanda", we usually respond. Hell most of the interesting and poignant conversations I have had and still have, are from those who message me first. Sure, that Rowandan slave girl eventually got tired of debating the ins and outs of Obamacare, but at least we talked about more than me sending her 500 dollars. Uhm, I forgot my point... Oh yeah, sure us guys probably get way less messages so can afford to respond and even chat. But seriously, is that our fault, when as my learned colleague so eloquently states even when we send out a relevant response, if we fall outside of that criteria it gets crushed.

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 1:57:29 PM   
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Speaking as an "old fart" I can assure you that what looked good to you at age 16 still looks good to you at age 60.


Oh, nonononononononononono

lololol

I am a very different person than I was 30 years ago, and my tastes have certainly changed.

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 2:03:11 PM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		I am 56 and I too am sick of the attitudes of the older men on here!


Umm, are there any men older than 56 on here, or am I the oldest?

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 2:07:20 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		You're misusing generalization vs preference.

When you say "all older men have bad teeth" that's a generalization.
If you say "I'm not interested in people with false teeth" that's a preference.

We don't object to you having preferences, you're getting flak for using the wrong word.
Helpful grammar Nazi here.

With that said, don't ever reject people online. If you simple delete the message, then the odds are overwhelming that they won't respond with anger. If you do reject them, that's when you get the nastygrams. No response is a response.

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 3:59:39 PM   
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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 4:09:28 PM   
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I am a very different person than I was 30 years ago, and my tastes have certainly changed.


Same here, I think hubby would be quite concerned if I would still be watching He-Man and crushing on him...

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 4:17:01 PM   
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I am 56 and I too am sick of the attitudes of the older men on here!

Umm, are there any men older than 56 on here, or am I the oldest?

Can't answer that, but I thought I should mention that I wouldn't "rule" out a gentleman in his mid-50's, all things considered. I do like a man with a head of hair, and the likelihood of finding that drops precipitously the older he gets.

But in your case, the deal breakers would be that you're a Dom and you live in a foreign country. Sorry, not local to me.

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 4:39:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would look at an older gentleman's profile on these occasions:

a) I thought I recognized him from real life.
b) I recognize him from the forums and would be curious to know more about them- as already stated- because I'm not opposed to forum friends or real friends of any age.
c) On accident. I look at profile's on accident way too often.

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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 5:02:10 PM   
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Speaking as an "old fart" I can assure you that what looked good to you at age 16 still looks good to you at age 60.

As to the old farts that are obnoxious when rejected. I have a feeling that those fellows were the ones when young, always got what they wanted and never accepted "no" as an answer. The people who, as adults, threw tantrums whenever questioned or denied. (screaming manager types)


I actually suspect that what you describe is true for most men. And I see on this thread that most who have come forward to say they have matured and are not interested in younger people are, of course, women. I do think there is a huge gender discrepancy on this issue. I do think most men still find younger women physically attractive due to their youth alone. I think men are hard-wired for this. And it is not a hard-wiring that has anything to do with how successful a relationship with a significantly younger person might be. It is purely a sexual response.

I do believe some women are also wired like men on this dimension, but most women search for maturity in their partner and most women are hard-wired to search for the traits that will make for a successful relationship. However, this doesn't mean a woman is willing to easily go 10/20/30 years over her age. Most women I know are with partners who are plus/minus 10 years from their own age and seem quite happy with that. I don't know if that is reflective of most women generally.

I find your thesis on rejection very interesting as it is not something I've ever considered before. It makes a lot of sense on its face. That men who are used to women saying yes more often than not are disturbed when that reverses.

Of course, some men, even when quite old, still attract certain types of significantly younger women. I generally find that to be due to some combination of the man's looks/success/money and certainly true of a man who has money alone. But I would hardly call those relationships. They seem more like "arrangements". I think both parties know what they are getting out of that arrangement. If it works for them fine. But no old guy should go around trying to convince others that a significantly younger woman is with them purely for their wonderful sense of …humor...





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RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. - 3/12/2014 5:05:24 PM   
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