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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

So critical thinking that humans can affect climate by their activities? Or the critical thinking that assumes that because we humans are so tiny that we can't change something as great and mighty as our planet earth? Honestly man, I've read the numbers, and they don't match up with the ones from Bullshit Mountain

Because the critical thinking is this:

Lots of water from melting ice caps and other ice sources + Water from combustion reactions = More water in the climate system
More water in the climate system = increased warming due to increased water vapour + a rise in sea level attributed to both extra water and increased temperatures.

Do you not realize the irony of your statement?

Thats not critical thinking *at all*

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I don't think I can get any simpler than that, but if you try hard, you might understand it

Ah so every result leads to the litany of global warming. I was trying to have a discussion with you to prove that

a). You need the ability to reason, and use math in this kind of argument.
b). As I showed, the water from combustion is actually immaterial to the argument, at least as far as raising sea levels. But you need the ability to make those determinations - and you don't have them.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Only stupid people arent worried about whats happening to the earth.
That they mostly seem to be americans is just unfortunate.
Of course third world countries have death , destruction and blinding poverty to concern themselves with. but for such ignorance in the first world countries, its...beyond pitiful.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Only stupid people arent worried about whats happening to the earth.
That they mostly seem to be americans is just unfortunate.
Of course third world countries have death , destruction and blinding poverty to concern themselves with. but for such ignorance in the first world countries, its...beyond pitiful.

Good to know the first world countries such as the US do not have death, destruction, and blinding poverty to distract us. I wonder how many citizens of Detroit or any other inner cities give a hang about GW? Not many I bet.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

So critical thinking that humans can affect climate by their activities? Or the critical thinking that assumes that because we humans are so tiny that we can't change something as great and mighty as our planet earth? Honestly man, I've read the numbers, and they don't match up with the ones from Bullshit Mountain

Because the critical thinking is this:

Lots of water from melting ice caps and other ice sources + Water from combustion reactions = More water in the climate system
More water in the climate system = increased warming due to increased water vapour + a rise in sea level attributed to both extra water and increased temperatures.

Do you not realize the irony of your statement?

Thats not critical thinking *at all*

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I don't think I can get any simpler than that, but if you try hard, you might understand it

Ah so every result leads to the litany of global warming. I was trying to have a discussion with you to prove that

a). You need the ability to reason, and use math in this kind of argument.
b). As I showed, the water from combustion is actually immaterial to the argument, at least as far as raising sea levels. But you need the ability to make those determinations - and you don't have them.

LOL, you are honestly too funny bro. You say that it's not critical thinking and you fail to even tell me what is critical thinking/show me an example of such. I have the ability to reason just fine, I've got a grasp on reality and what is happening around me. Something yours truly sorely lacks.

So you say I don't need straight numbers to do this kind of critical thinking, then I use critical thinking and you say I need the ability to reason and use math in this kind of argument, when you just said I don't need numbers! WTF man, if I don't have any numbers then I'm supposed to use critical thinking, you can't argue that I'm not doing math when I essentially did math without any numbers! Seriously, if you're going to indirectly call me stupid, don't go contradicting yourself like that, it's just pathetic

4 degrees my ass, where's you get them? Did your kid happen to make them for you one afternoon and you felt so proud of him/her that you hung them in your office?

And you didn't show shit with combustion water, you said 0.1mm, there was no supporting evidence. Not to mention I was simply humouring your whole water thing because I felt it would give you a chance to feel smart for once. OF COURSE COMBUSTION H2O IS MINIMAL BY COMPARISON TO THE ICE SHEETS. You have massive blocks of ice breaking off ice sheets daily which contain more water than carbon based fuels do. Its a no brainer.

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Lots of water from melting ice caps and other ice sources + Water from combustion reactions = More water in the climate system
More water in the climate system = increased warming due to increased water vapour + a rise in sea level attributed to both extra water and increased temperatures.

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I don't worry about it at all. There is nothing I can do about it, if it is happening. And don't tell me to stop driving my car or cooking on the grill.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Randians are even more delusional than fundie evangelists

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Randians are even more delusional than fundie evangelists

But not quite so much as 'tolerant' liberals.

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I don't know that I expected much different results. Even to the extent man is contributing, it is very gradual so the effects as I have been arguing if borne out to be true, IF the globe is to suffer, by the time everybody gets on board, it will be...too late.

One reason is because (globalized) man will still be burning fossil fuels and will continue to do so.