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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/26/2014 6:58:46 PM   
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yes the old testament nitpicker the septuagint

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/26/2014 9:21:55 PM   
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Every faith hates every other faith. If worshippers of the Greek and Norse pantheons still survived, and don't give me that neo pagan nonsense they worship made feel good amalgam not the faiths as they were historically practiced, they would hate each other just as much as the Christians hated both.



Why do you feel the need to resort to lies. Now I have no doubt that some faiths hate others, but to claim that they all do is just bullshit.

Example? One faith with no instance of any hatred of any other faith ever. 



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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/26/2014 9:54:13 PM   
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Every faith hates every other faith...

Why do you feel the need to resort to lies. Now I have no doubt that some faiths hate others, but to claim that they all do is just bullshit.

Example? One faith with no instance of any hatred of any other faith ever. 

Wicca

Now we're up to two, though that's only by Ken's count, because the first offering by GotSteel would cover several by itself.

But in all fairness, of course, we're talking about here on Earth.

K.



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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 1:17:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Every faith hates every other faith...

Why do you feel the need to resort to lies. Now I have no doubt that some faiths hate others, but to claim that they all do is just bullshit.

Example? One faith with no instance of any hatred of any other faith ever. 

Wicca

Now we're up to two, though that's only by Ken's count, because the first offering by GotSteel would cover several by itself.

But in all fairness, of course, we're talking about here on Earth.

K.


So far the planetary count of religions that get by without hating another religion has reached the stratospheric level of 2. And that with some difficulty too. Given that there are thousands of religions and sects available to choose from, finding two doesn't appear to be much of an achievement. Indeed, it's as far from impressive as it can be.

So it would appear that an accurate summary is: Almost all religions hate at least one other religion.

Recalling that many religions foreground virtues such as love and peace, and discourage hate and violence, that answer(s) to the question 'Why do almost all religions hate at least one other religion?' might be intriguing, even dare I say revealing.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 5:36:50 AM   
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Every faith hates every other faith. If worshippers of the Greek and Norse pantheons still survived, and don't give me that neo pagan nonsense they worship made feel good amalgam not the faiths as they were historically practiced, they would hate each other just as much as the Christians hated both.



Why do you feel the need to resort to lies. Now I have no doubt that some faiths hate others, but to claim that they all do is just bullshit.

Example? One faith with no instance of any hatred of any other faith ever. 



Wicca

Made up nonsense worse than most religions but based on religions that definitely hate other faiths. So no.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 5:39:09 AM   
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Every faith hates every other faith...

Why do you feel the need to resort to lies. Now I have no doubt that some faiths hate others, but to claim that they all do is just bullshit.

Example? One faith with no instance of any hatred of any other faith ever. 

Wicca

Now we're up to two, though that's only by Ken's count, because the first offering by GotSteel would cover several by itself.

But in all fairness, of course, we're talking about here on Earth.

In all fairness the count is still zero. GotSteel's example was not true. I presented that the Romans did hate other faiths.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 5:46:53 AM   
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yes the old testament nitpicker the septuagint

Alexander didn't have the Septuagint translated. It wasn't done until sometime in the 2nd century BCE over 100 years after Alexander died.

We don't actually know who had it translated but the legend associated with it claims it was Ptomely II who was the ruler of Egypt but was a Greek and supposedly had a lot of Jews in Alexandria who didn't speak Hebrew but did speak Greek. We do know it wasn't translated by scholars of Alexander's time because Koine Greek, the dialect it is in, emerged after his death.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 6:19:34 AM   
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While monotheism makes some sense versus polytheism. Why is it monotheism has such reputation of hatred towards polytheism?


It is stated in the Bible God is jealous. I have no hate toward polytheism but I do think it is wrong with a capital W.
If you see a Christian spewing hate for others, they are pretenders, if you see certain faiths saying ONLY WE will see God, they are wrong. People evolve too, and what they believe today might change due to the direction of what is spoken to their heart, in regard to the betterment of mankind led by The One. I understand it seems ridiculous, but it truly is beyond human comprehension. If one doesn't believe, truly believe, and follow, their is no guidance.

Monotheism is the worship of One creator. It is said if you believe in the trinity, God is the head, Jesus is the route to him in prayer, and if you are truly saved you are instilled with the Holy Spirit, and it is to be fed with teachings of the Bible.
We live less by reasoning and more by leading.

Am I right? I most certainly pray to be but if I am not I hope God gives me a swift kick in the right direction.
It can be confusing for sure so I try to keep it simple. Sometimes I talk about mother earth, or angels, or what appears to be nonsense, not correlating with the subject at hand. Its a bit silly I know, and looks insane? But that's ok its a good insane. I mean it to be.

I am a bit of an gnostic, who marches to the beat of a different drummer, but strength does come in numbers. What is most important to be me is I am listening to God, doing the right things, trying too.
That is just one protestant story. I hope this helps in some way this Sunday to get an insider view of what it is like, at least for me.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 6:57:53 AM   
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While monotheism makes some sense versus polytheism. Why is it monotheism has such reputation of hatred towards polytheism?

I am sure MrB is is determined to be the best pot-stirrer in the world as that's all he seems to do.


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It is stated in the Bible God is jealous.

And if said god was all he is supposed to be - he wouldn't be jealous.

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I have no hate toward polytheism but I do think it is wrong with a capital W.

Why wrong?
I think your monotheism is wrong too.
But there again, I'm not a christian.

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If you see a Christian spewing hate for others, they are pretenders,

Have you not done exactly that by saying that polytheism is wrong with a capital W??
Way to go with the hypocrisy sista!!

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if you see certain faiths saying ONLY WE will see God, they are wrong.

And have you not said exactly that in other threads and posts on here?

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People evolve too, and what they believe today might change due to the direction of what is spoken to their heart, in regard to the betterment of mankind led by The One.

Which One??
Your one? My one? A different one??
You are as hypocritical as BenM in believing that 'the one' is only your one.

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I understand it seems ridiculous, but it truly is beyond human comprehension. If one doesn't believe, truly believe, and follow, their is no guidance.

It is only beyond the comprehension of those that are unable to think for themselves spiritually.
Those that can, lead; those that can't, follow blindly else they are lost.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Monotheism is the worship of One creator. It is said if you believe in the trinity, God is the head, Jesus is the route to him in prayer, and if you are truly saved you are instilled with the Holy Spirit, and it is to be fed with teachings of the Bible.

And you are espousing only your version of the monotheism logic.
You rebuke anyone else's version of any other 'theism'.

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We live less by reasoning and more by leading.

And like the majority of sheeple, you blindly follow, not lead.

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Am I right?

Nope. Not in my eyes nor anyone else that does not follow your particular doctrine.

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I most certainly pray to be but if I am not I hope God gives me a swift kick in the right direction.

He's a bit late isn't he??
You are already entrenched in your singular idealism.

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It can be confusing for sure so I try to keep it simple.

We noticed - it's a monorail of one-twue-wayism.

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Sometimes I talk about mother earth, or angels, or what appears to be nonsense, not correlating with the subject at hand. Its a bit silly I know, and looks insane? But that's ok its a good insane. I mean it to be.

I don't think there's anything good in any form of insanity.
But keep taking the pills - they might work one day and you'll be enlightened.

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I am a bit of an gnostic, who marches to the beat of a different drummer, but strength does come in numbers. What is most important to be me is I am listening to God,

If you are listening to your 'one true god' then you are not a 'gnostic' as those that follow the gnostic bible oppose the way the scriptures have been taught over the last few centuries.
In essence, to follow more than 'one true path' is an oxymoron by definition.

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doing the right things, trying too.

And it's "to", not "too" - and failing miserably.

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That is just one protestant story. I hope this helps in some way this Sunday to get an insider view of what it is like, at least for me.

And now you confess it's a protestant story!

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 7:44:26 AM   
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While monotheism makes some sense versus polytheism. Why is it monotheism has such reputation of hatred towards polytheism?

I am sure MrB is is determined to be the best pot-stirrer in the world as that's all he seems to do.

Tsk tsk seems you would be the pot stirrer at the moment.


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It is stated in the Bible God is jealous.

And if said god was all he is supposed to be - he wouldn't be jealous.

We would not have inherited jealousy if it was not meant to be so. Jealousy can be seen in a positive light.


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I have no hate toward polytheism but I do think it is wrong with a capital W.

Why wrong?
I think your monotheism is wrong too.
But there again, I'm not a christian.

I was explaining one individual journey. We can agree to disagree. Believe as you wish.

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If you see a Christian spewing hate for others, they are pretenders,

Have you not done exactly that by saying that polytheism is wrong with a capital W??
Way to go with the hypocrisy sista!!

I have no problems being a hypocrite in your eyes for my belief in One Creator, showing loyalty.

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if you see certain faiths saying ONLY WE will see God, they are wrong.

And have you not said exactly that in other threads and posts on here?

If that was your interpretation, then it must be true? Show me the posts, then I will eat them and throw them away.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
People evolve too, and what they believe today might change due to the direction of what is spoken to their heart, in regard to the betterment of mankind led by The One.

Which One??
Your one? My one? A different one??
You are as hypocritical as BenM in believing that 'the one' is only your one.

I do believe pointing a finger at me as a hypocrite, is quite fine with me. I think its fine with God too.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
I understand it seems ridiculous, but it truly is beyond human comprehension. If one doesn't believe, truly believe, and follow, their is no guidance.

It is only beyond the comprehension of those that are unable to think for themselves spiritually.
Those that can, lead; those that can't, follow blindly else they are lost.

Ive said this before and will say it again. If this is blind, give me a cane, so I can use it. Oh so sorry I have a cane thank you. My mistake. My intent was to bridge understanding sir. Tearing my post apart does nothing for you. Who are you feeding?

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Monotheism is the worship of One creator. It is said if you believe in the trinity, God is the head, Jesus is the route to him in prayer, and if you are truly saved you are instilled with the Holy Spirit, and it is to be fed with teachings of the Bible.

And you are espousing only your version of the monotheism logic.
You rebuke anyone else's version of any other 'theism'.

I rebuke the devil. Right now you are being a little devilish. I forgive you. I can be a devil to if I want to go there, but I just don't.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
We live less by reasoning and more by leading.

And like the majority of sheeple, you blindly follow, not lead.

Thank you, I take that as a huge compliment. Glory to God.
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Am I right?

Nope. Not in my eyes nor anyone else that does not follow your particular doctrine.

Sir I did not ask you to follow my doctrine.

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I most certainly pray to be but if I am not I hope God gives me a swift kick in the right direction.

He's a bit late isn't he??
You are already entrenched in your singular idealism.

Singular means One, Plural means many. Both are positive.

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It can be confusing for sure so I try to keep it simple.

We noticed - it's a monorail of one-twue-wayism.

Your spelling is off a little, use a r instead of the W. Then its spelled True.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Sometimes I talk about mother earth, or angels, or what appears to be nonsense, not correlating with the subject at hand. Its a bit silly I know, and looks insane? But that's ok its a good insane. I mean it to be.

I don't think there's anything good in any form of insanity.
But keep taking the pills - they might work one day and you'll be enlightened.

I took the pill already. Thank you very much. Who turned those lights on!!!!

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
I am a bit of an gnostic, who marches to the beat of a different drummer, but strength does come in numbers. What is most important to be me is I am listening to God,

If you are listening to your 'one true god' then you are not a 'gnostic' as those that follow the gnostic bible oppose the way the scriptures have been taught over the last few centuries.
In essence, to follow more than 'one true path' is an oxymoron by definition.

IS your path the same as mine? I don't think so. Let me ask? Nope they are different.

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doing the right things, trying too.

And it's "to", not "too" - and failing miserably.

My mistake. Too, also means also

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That is just one protestant story. I hope this helps in some way this Sunday to get an insider view of what it is like, at least for me.

And now you confess it's a protestant story!


I shared a story, it could be myth or fiction to you. Bottom line is, the straight line is, the fact is you want to argue. Smiles at you and waves and goes out to tend the garden. Have a good day Grouchy. ( I use only words from your signature.)


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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 7:52:52 AM   
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I shared a story, it could be myth or fiction to you. Bottom line is, the straight line is, the fact is you want to argue. Smiles at you and waves and goes out to tend the garden. Have a good day Grouchy. ( I use only words from your signature.)

I don't want to argue. But I will call out a massive hypocrisy when I see it.


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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 8:36:42 AM   
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So far the planetary count of religions that get by without hating another religion has reached the stratospheric level of 2. And that with some difficulty too. Given that there are thousands of religions and sects available to choose from, finding two doesn't appear to be much of an achievement. Indeed, it's as far from impressive as it can be.

So it would appear that an accurate summary is: Almost all religions hate at least one other religion.

Recalling that many religions foreground virtues such as love and peace, and discourage hate and violence, that answer(s) to the question 'Why do almost all religions hate at least one other religion?' might be intriguing, even dare I say revealing.



He asked for one example, I gave him one. Now I could have listed several off the top of my head, but I doubt that would satisfy him so why bother. I have been to a lot of different churches in my years and I have never found one that didn't teach love and peace and discourage hate and violence. Now I am sure they are out there but to claim almost all do it is just another bullshit lie.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 8:45:00 AM   
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Every faith hates every other faith. If worshippers of the Greek and Norse pantheons still survived, and don't give me that neo pagan nonsense they worship made feel good amalgam not the faiths as they were historically practiced, they would hate each other just as much as the Christians hated both.



Why do you feel the need to resort to lies. Now I have no doubt that some faiths hate others, but to claim that they all do is just bullshit.

Example? One faith with no instance of any hatred of any other faith ever. 



Wicca

Made up nonsense worse than most religions but based on religions that definitely hate other faiths. So no.


I honestly didn't expect you to except that one, and I doubt you will except anyone others put out there. You have made up your mind and no one is going to change that. One of the things I have learned in dealing with closed minded people is there really is no point in trying to explain things to them. It's just a waste of time. Even faced with facts they continue to lie so why bother. I'd rather go to the park and enjoy this nice spring weather.

edited to add and since you have made it clear you think all religions are made up fairy tales, what difference would it make if wicca was too? You act like you thought I might come up with a religion that was real in your eyes and the only thing I can come up with there is atheism. At least that is the one you seem to live for preaching about.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 9:02:42 AM   
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I honestly didn't expect you to except that one, and I doubt you will except anyone others put out there. You have made up your mind and no one is going to change that. One of the things I have learned in dealing with closed minded people is there really is no point in trying to explain things to them. It's just a waste of time. Even faced with facts they continue to lie so why bother. I'd rather go to the park and enjoy this nice spring weather.

edited to add and since you have made it clear you think all religions are made up fairy tales, what difference would it make if wicca was too? You act like you thought I might come up with a religion that was real in your eyes and the only thing I can come up with there is atheism. At least that is the one you seem to live for preaching about.

There are religions made up long enough in the past that some people could argue that they aren't made up. Wicca is not that. Wicca is the worst part of western culture. It is a half assed amalgamation of the traditions and beliefs of many different groups mashed together by cultural illiterates. It's very creation shows a hatred and contempt for the beliefs being ripped off.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 9:24:53 AM   
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I honestly didn't expect you to except that one, and I doubt you will except anyone others put out there. You have made up your mind and no one is going to change that. One of the things I have learned in dealing with closed minded people is there really is no point in trying to explain things to them. It's just a waste of time. Even faced with facts they continue to lie so why bother. I'd rather go to the park and enjoy this nice spring weather.

edited to add and since you have made it clear you think all religions are made up fairy tales, what difference would it make if wicca was too? You act like you thought I might come up with a religion that was real in your eyes and the only thing I can come up with there is atheism. At least that is the one you seem to live for preaching about.

There are religions made up long enough in the past that some people could argue that they aren't made up. Wicca is not that. Wicca is the worst part of western culture. It is a half assed amalgamation of the traditions and beliefs of many different groups mashed together by cultural illiterates. It's very creation shows a hatred and contempt for the beliefs being ripped off.


You are missing the point. If you feel all religions are based on fairy tales and peopled by mindless idiots who blindly follow their imaginary friend in the sky, then what difference does it make when the religion started. To you they are all wrong anyway so what is the difference between them? To sit there and try to tell me one is a better example than the others discounts everything you have ever preached on here about faith.


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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 10:25:01 AM   
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Every faith hates every other faith...

Why do you feel the need to resort to lies. Now I have no doubt that some faiths hate others, but to claim that they all do is just bullshit.

Example? One faith with no instance of any hatred of any other faith ever. 

Wicca

Now we're up to two, though that's only by Ken's count, because the first offering by GotSteel would cover several by itself.

But in all fairness, of course, we're talking about here on Earth.

K.


So far the planetary count of religions that get by without hating another religion has reached the stratospheric level of 2. And that with some difficulty too. Given that there are thousands of religions and sects available to choose from, finding two doesn't appear to be much of an achievement. Indeed, it's as far from impressive as it can be.

So it would appear that an accurate summary is: Almost all religions hate at least one other religion.

Recalling that many religions foreground virtues such as love and peace, and discourage hate and violence, that answer(s) to the question 'Why do almost all religions hate at least one other religion?' might be intriguing, even dare I say revealing.



Some dubious characteristics "Christians" and Muslims share....... a suffocating arrogance,anti-intellectualism and a deadly form of elitism.....


If anyone could point out any recent Pagan based violence....I would like to know of any.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/27/2014 5:21:31 PM   
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I honestly didn't expect you to except that one, and I doubt you will except anyone others put out there. You have made up your mind and no one is going to change that. One of the things I have learned in dealing with closed minded people is there really is no point in trying to explain things to them. It's just a waste of time. Even faced with facts they continue to lie so why bother. I'd rather go to the park and enjoy this nice spring weather.

edited to add and since you have made it clear you think all religions are made up fairy tales, what difference would it make if wicca was too? You act like you thought I might come up with a religion that was real in your eyes and the only thing I can come up with there is atheism. At least that is the one you seem to live for preaching about.

There are religions made up long enough in the past that some people could argue that they aren't made up. Wicca is not that. Wicca is the worst part of western culture. It is a half assed amalgamation of the traditions and beliefs of many different groups mashed together by cultural illiterates. It's very creation shows a hatred and contempt for the beliefs being ripped off.


You are missing the point. If you feel all religions are based on fairy tales and peopled by mindless idiots who blindly follow their imaginary friend in the sky, then what difference does it make when the religion started. To you they are all wrong anyway so what is the difference between them? To sit there and try to tell me one is a better example than the others discounts everything you have ever preached on here about faith.


Wrong. And stupidly wrong.

I can and do respect people of faith that hold sincere beliefs and live by them, it's just so very rare. I find people who embrace the latest trend to be somewhat lower than internet trolls.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/28/2014 2:02:52 AM   
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So far the planetary count of religions that get by without hating another religion has reached the stratospheric level of 2. And that with some difficulty too. Given that there are thousands of religions and sects available to choose from, finding two doesn't appear to be much of an achievement. Indeed, it's as far from impressive as it can be.

So it would appear that an accurate summary is: Almost all religions hate at least one other religion.

Recalling that many religions foreground virtues such as love and peace, and discourage hate and violence, that answer(s) to the question 'Why do almost all religions hate at least one other religion?' might be intriguing, even dare I say revealing.



He asked for one example, I gave him one. Now I could have listed several off the top of my head, but I doubt that would satisfy him so why bother. I have been to a lot of different churches in my years and I have never found one that didn't teach love and peace and discourage hate and violence. Now I am sure they are out there but to claim almost all do it is just another bullshit lie.

The point of contention here is not what the various religions preach - it is whether they can manage to do their business without hating at least one other religion. On that point, to date, there have been 2 nominations of religions that get by without hating another religion. It is noteworthy that you were unable to add to that grand total, despite your claims.

Once we wade through the platitudes and look at what religions actually do (as opposed to what they claim they do) we find that almost all religions hate at least one other religion.

How much does the failure to answer the question 'Why do so many religions hate other religions?' reveal? We can note the difference between the grandiose claims about love and peace and the actual practice of hatred of other religions as just another example of hypocrisy by organised religion (not that there's any shortage of those). But that still leaves the question unanswered. So, once again:

Why is it that almost all religions hate at least one other religion?

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/28/2014 3:49:52 AM   
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In all fairness the count is still zero. GotSteel's example was not true. I presented that the Romans did hate other faiths.


Whoa hold up a second, there's been some moving of the goal posts. The claim being contested was:

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Every faith hates every other faith.


Ergo all one must do to refute the claim is show one faith which at least tolerates a single other faith, this has been done several times thus far.

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RE: The Dungeon of monotheism - 4/28/2014 6:01:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

So far the planetary count of religions that get by without hating another religion has reached the stratospheric level of 2. And that with some difficulty too. Given that there are thousands of religions and sects available to choose from, finding two doesn't appear to be much of an achievement. Indeed, it's as far from impressive as it can be.

So it would appear that an accurate summary is: Almost all religions hate at least one other religion.

Recalling that many religions foreground virtues such as love and peace, and discourage hate and violence, that answer(s) to the question 'Why do almost all religions hate at least one other religion?' might be intriguing, even dare I say revealing.



He asked for one example, I gave him one. Now I could have listed several off the top of my head, but I doubt that would satisfy him so why bother. I have been to a lot of different churches in my years and I have never found one that didn't teach love and peace and discourage hate and violence. Now I am sure they are out there but to claim almost all do it is just another bullshit lie.

The point of contention here is not what the various religions preach - it is whether they can manage to do their business without hating at least one other religion. On that point, to date, there have been 2 nominations of religions that get by without hating another religion. It is noteworthy that you were unable to add to that grand total, despite your claims.

Once we wade through the platitudes and look at what religions actually do (as opposed to what they claim they do) we find that almost all religions hate at least one other religion.

How much does the failure to answer the question 'Why do so many religions hate other religions?' reveal? We can note the difference between the grandiose claims about love and peace and the actual practice of hatred of other religions as just another example of hypocrisy by organised religion (not that there's any shortage of those). But that still leaves the question unanswered. So, once again:

Why is it that almost all religions hate at least one other religion?


I do not make it a habit of hating other religions. Why would I hate a religion who preaches about goodness and peace, even if we don't believe the same way? It is an individual choice and leading. I have posted enough to make it clear I believe in God, that's my way. Its what I know and believe in. Its easy to find good in many religions if one looks at the good. If an organization is preaching hate I am not going to care for the teaching nor attend such a place. The word religion is more of a root problem for me because everyone is following different doctrines and everyone thinks only their faith is that of the chosen. I don't believe that. Since I believe in God and the route I do, he represents the good for me then I can say I would seriously hate the practice of Satan worship. That would be an example.
On another thread I defended a certain faith because of the good people I know who practice, but in the process of doing that, the very faith I was defending turned on me, and began putting down my own faith,. I don't support abuse of power. That is not a Godly agenda. I believe it is negligent to allow one person access over and over to situations that harm Many. Put them out of society in a place they cant harm others. Preaching take responsibility is not productive when people in positions to change things are so far removed, that their decisions make no sense. This wouldn't be allowed nor continue for the average person. There is no way on Gods green Earth I could follow that. Especially when I investigated it further.

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