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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

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DomKen
I told you, look up the origin of the words angel and devil. It will make it very clear.

In short for the thick angel means good guy on the Persian side and deva means good guy on the other. Devil derives from deva but the meaning is reversed. Asura is the evil counterpart to the benevolent deva. One sides good guys became the other sides bad. Seems pretty fucking clear to me.
http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/aryans/religion.htm

Etymology
Devil descends from the Middle English devel, from Old English dēofol, that in turn represents an early Germanic borrowing of Latin diabolus. This in turn was borrowed from Ancient Greek diábolos (διάβολος), "slanderer",[5] from diaballein "to slander": dia- "across, through" + ballein "to hurl". In the New Testament, "Satan" occurs more than 30 times in passages alongside diábolos, referring to the same person or thing as Satan.

The word angel in English is a fusion of the Old English/Germanic word engel (with a hard g) and the Old French angele. Both derive from the Latin angelus which in turn is the romanization of the ancient Greek ἄγγελος (ángelos[5]), "messenger", "envoy",[6] which is related to the Greek verb ἀγγέλλω (angéllō), meaning "bear a message, announce, bring news of" etc.[7] The earliest form of the word is the Mycenaean a-ke-ro attested in Linear B syllabic script

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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It would make you wonder what is the good of religion, but those are abused cases, there are many good teachings and churches, that are loving.

How do you differentiate? Certainly you'll hate and oppress for Jesus, for example:

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4679368

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Take your sign and shove it. Don't use Gods promise as your colors. What you should put on your sign is the picture of an explosion.
Smoke that peace pipe. Ok for you I am a bigot. TOUGH. You Are immoral period. It is an abomination!

How do you say that others doing the same thing you do are doing it wrong?

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Oh darling, must be keep going over this? I have expressed there are certain things we just don't believe in.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Now I will apology to you for being a little colorful with my words, but I did feel a little badgered at the time. I would never want to hurt anyone.

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

At least the ancients were honest about greed. It had very little to do with religion. Romans adapted foreign gods. But again show me with sourcing. Oh no you dont do links do you?
Talktalktalktalk chicken.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

At least the ancients were honest about greed. It had very little to do with religion. Romans adapted foreign gods. But again show me with sourcing. Oh no you dont do links do you?
Talktalktalktalk chicken.

The Romans created Christianity.

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Oh darling, must be keep going over this? I have expressed there are certain things we just don't believe in.

Then by all means don't fuck any ladies. But when you use your vote to diminish the quality of life for another group that's something different.

I for instance don't believe in your religion, should I use my vote to ban it?

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Now I will apology to you for being a little colorful with my words, but I did feel a little badgered at the time. I would never want to hurt anyone.

If you had your way what would you do with the abominations?

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

At least the ancients were honest about greed. It had very little to do with religion. Romans adapted foreign gods. But again show me with sourcing. Oh no you dont do links do you?
Talktalktalktalk chicken.

The Romans created Christianity.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
I would do nothing, just let people live their life. Free choice. We all have it.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Its an opinion, just as yours is an opinion.

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We are allowed to express that opinion.

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If you felt we were in wrong, we had no good intent, we were out to get you, then by all means, yes, vote against it.

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ORIGINAL: https://www.barna.org/barna-update/teens-nextgen/94-a-new-generation-expresses-its-skepticism-and-frustration-with-christianity
The study shows that 16- to 29-year-olds exhibit a greater degree of criticism toward Christianity than did previous generations when they were at the same stage of life. In fact, in just a decade, many of the Barna measures of the Christian image have shifted substantially downward, fueled in part by a growing sense of disengagement and disillusionment among young people. For instance, a decade ago the vast majority of Americans outside the Christian faith, including young people, felt favorably toward Christianity’s role in society. Currently, however, just 16% of non-Christians in their late teens and twenties said they have a "good impression" of Christianity.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Oppression is a strong word to use, dont you think?

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Considering it means cruel and unjust.

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A vote is not cruel nor unjust.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Lets try to be fair on that. What you consider cruel I consider a kindness.

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Since you quoted a study in favor of your position my single vote doesnt make a hill of beans. So no point of arguing since you believe the cards will fall in your direction anyway.

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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Every faith hates every other faith. If worshippers of the Greek and Norse pantheons still survived, and don't give me that neo pagan nonsense they worship made feel good amalgam not the faiths as they were historically practiced, they would hate each other just as much as the Christians hated both.

That seems like an over generalization that history doesn't really support. In cultures that have multiple deities especially ones where families have there own deities where's the harm in one more god? I can certainly cite numerous examples of other religions being tolerated under polytheistic empires.

Looks like one.

And even the Romans hated pantheistic faiths they were not well familiar with. They banned the practices of the druids and spread the slander that their rites involved human sacrifice, weird how every one of Rome's enemies sacrifices humans (see Carthage).

Druids were a direct threat not because of religion, but the ability to join all northern nations into one.
Carthage was slandered because it was romes greatest enemy and a threat to it's existance.

Only jews and especially christians were persecuted because they were the only ones refusing to pay hommage to roman gods.

Persians left religious freedom

tried to forcibly conquer India for religious reasons (source of angels and devils)

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Hittites did

Too liitle is known about them to support that claim

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Hellenes did

Who did the classic Greeks conquer?

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Alexander did it

Alexander did not. He spread Hellenic society including religion everywhere his empire went. His successors were even worse.

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ORIGINAL: Gotsteel

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Lets try to be fair on that. What you consider cruel I consider a kindness.

Go on by all means try to justify that claim.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Pinches your cheeks, offers you a piece of cake and says oh please, now is that you climbing that wall in the picture?

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ORIGINAL: https://www.barna.org/barna-update/teens-nextgen/94-a-new-generation-expresses-its-skepticism-and-frustration-with-christianity#.U2gBcVd9dbU
Today, the most common perception is that present-day Christianity is "anti-homosexual." Overall, 91% of young non-Christians and 80% of young churchgoers say this phrase describes Christianity. As the research probed this perception, non-Christians and Christians explained that beyond their recognition that Christians oppose homosexuality, they believe that Christians show excessive contempt and unloving attitudes towards gays and lesbians. One of the most frequent criticisms of young Christians was that they believe the church has made homosexuality a "bigger sin" than anything else. Moreover, they claim that the church has not helped them apply the biblical teaching on homosexuality to their friendships with gays and lesbians.

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ORIGINAL: AdamKessler

Organized religion is a dungeon of the mind and spirit that your parents put you in shortly after you're born. Few people find the keys out, despite it being right in front of them. They aren't looking for them. And fewer still are the ones that found the key and are willing to walk outside. There is so much beauty in the world and in our minds, but so little of it is in those damn, ancient books.