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if you want to believe some bullshit lie that all religions hate others, then knock your socks off.

Unable or unwilling to produce any evidence to support your blanket denial of the claim that 'Almost all religions hate at least one other religion'.

No surprise there, hating at least one other religion seems to be almost a necessary pre-requisite for a religion - it really is that common.

And no attempt to even address the more important issue which is:

Why do almost all religions hate at least one other religion?

Why is it necessary for the faithful to slaughter each other (as has happened so many times during history and is still happening today)??? Why do the various clergy incite their followers to hate and violence while professing to promote love and peace? This has happened in all parts of the world, is still happening in numerous locations today and there doesn't appear to be any likeliehood of it changing for the better any time soon.

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if you want to believe some bullshit lie that all religions hate others, then knock your socks off.

Unable or unwilling to produce any evidence to support your blanket denial of the claim that 'Almost all religions hate at least one other religion'.

No surprise there, hating at least one other religion seems to be almost a necessary pre-requisite for a religion - it really is that common.

And no attempt to even address the more important issue which is:

Why do almost all religions hate at least one other religion?

Why is it necessary for the faithful to slaughter each other (as has happened so many times during history and is still happening today)??? Why do the various clergy incite their followers to hate and violence while professing to promote love and peace? This has happened in all parts of the world, is still happening in numerous locations today and there doesn't appear to be any likeliehood of it changing for the better any time soon.

They don't and you claiming over and over again that they do isn't going to change anything. It will only make you look like a hateful little troll.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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if you want to believe some bullshit lie that all religions hate others, then knock your socks off.

Unable or unwilling to produce any evidence to support your blanket denial of the claim that 'Almost all religions hate at least one other religion'.

No surprise there, hating at least one other religion seems to be almost a necessary pre-requisite for a religion - it really is that common.

And no attempt to even address the more important issue which is:

Why do almost all religions hate at least one other religion?

Why is it necessary for the faithful to slaughter each other (as has happened so many times during history and is still happening today)??? Why do the various clergy incite their followers to hate and violence while professing to promote love and peace? This has happened in all parts of the world, is still happening in numerous locations today and there doesn't appear to be any likeliehood of it changing for the better any time soon.

They don't and you claiming over and over again that they do isn't going to change anything. It will only make you look like a hateful little troll.

If you are concerned with appearances can I suggest you supply some evidence to support your blanket denials. At least try to find some evidence or argument to support your position. I know that evidence to deny that almost all religions hate at least one other religion is very hard to find - it doesn't exist - but do try to give a veneer of rationality to your blanket denials.

It will give the impression that your grasp of the subject has a bit more depth to it than the ideologically inspired knowledge-challenged knee jerk trolling you have served up to us to date.

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ITs really a matter of what is being taught. So yes the teachings can be quite hated. Its not the people, its what they are being filled with spiritually. Extremist bastardizing religions and them branching it all kinds of directions.
There appears to be a rampant disrespect of life and an overwhelming increase in deceit and lies. Its appears to be so normal, people just accept it.


I see you live in Australia. You should have a birds eye view of the solar eclipse today?

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It will only make you look like a hateful little troll.

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And I've already pointed out that that article glosses over the facts.
The Romans suppressed every major faith they encountered except the Egyptian. How is that tolerance?

Could you cite a source for that?

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As I understand it even the oppression of Christianity is largely imaginary:

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Candida Moss, a professor of early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame and a practicing Catholic, wants to shatter what she calls the “myth” of martyrdom in the Christian faith.

Sunday school tales of early Christians being rounded up at their secret catacomb meetings and thrown to the lions by evil Romans are mere fairy tales, Moss writes in a new book. In fact, in the first 250 years of Christianity, Romans mostly regarded the religion's practitioners as meddlesome members of a superstitious cult.

The government actively persecuted Christians for only about 10 years, Moss suggests, and even then intermittently. And, she says, many of the best known early stories of brave Christian martyrs were entirely fabricated.

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evidence to deny that almost all religions hate at least one other religion is very hard to find - it doesn't exist

I don't think that's true. The religious traditions that comprise what we call "Hinduism" are all Monist at their core. It is of no consequence whether someone's devotions are dedicated to Shiva or Krishna or Christ. In fact, they were initially unaware of and didn't understand the virulent character of our Western monotheisms, which demanded that only one God and only "his" Laws be credited with legitimacy. Buddhism, for its part, regards hatred of any kind as a form of attachment that must be abandoned. I think a case could be made that it is mainly our Western monotheisms that have historically wreaked mayhem against those who "reject" the One True Way.

K.

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ITs really a matter of what is being taught. So yes the teachings can be quite hated. Its not the people, its what they are being filled with spiritually. Extremist bastardizing religions and them branching it all kinds of directions.
There appears to be a rampant disrespect of life and an overwhelming increase in deceit and lies. Its appears to be so normal, people just accept it.


I see you live in Australia. You should have a birds eye view of the solar eclipse today?

This may be a factor in inter-religious violence. But it begs the question why are these violent lessons being taught, presumably by clergy who ought to know better, or are in a position to stop the violence.

If as you say religious teachings can lead to "rampant disrespect of life and an overwhelming increase in deceit and lies" one begins to wonder what use is religion at all?

Sorry I was unaware of any eclipse here today - and it was cloudy anyways

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evidence to deny that almost all religions hate at least one other religion is very hard to find - it doesn't exist

I don't think that's true. The religious traditions that comprise what we call "Hinduism" are all Monist at their core. It is of no consequence whether someone's devotions are dedicated to Shiva or Krishna or Christ. In fact, they were initially unaware of and didn't understand the virulent character of our Western monotheisms, which demanded that only one God and only "his" Laws be credited with legitimacy. Buddhism, for its part, regards hatred of any kind as a form of attachment that must be abandoned. I think a case could be made that it is mainly our Western monotheisms that have historically wreaked mayhem against those who "reject" the One True Way.

K.

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So we now have the grand total of 4 churches that seem to be free of the internecine warfare that afflict so many religions. That's 4 out of a total of thousands of churches, religions and sects. If that is the best you can do, its not terribly impressive.

So unimpressive that, as the total stands, it counts more as supporting evidence that almost all religions hate at least one other religion than disproving the claim. That is without even visiting the long history of inter-religion warfare and violence, parts of which are well known to just about everyone (see for example the histories of Christianity and Islam).

And still no insight into why religion seems to involve so much hate and violence ....

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It will only make you look like a hateful little troll.

Pstt while contesting tweak on this issue it might help to not exemplify the problem she's pointing out.

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The long conflict between the Hindu princes and the Persian empire was very distinctly religious in nature.

So you say, but what support do you have to offer to support that claim? Or for that matter, to support your more sweeping previous one? Cultural and territorial frictions between groups cannot be classed as religion-based hostilities just because the religions of the groups differ. And even where religion-based hostilities do intrude, the hostilities would have to be religion-based on both sides for your claim to stand. In cases where monotheistic intruders start telling the locals that their religion is shit, you can expect hostilities to result. But that isn't because, "every faith hates every other faith."

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It would make you wonder what is the good of religion, but those are abused cases, there are many good teachings and churches, that are loving.

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Take your sign and shove it. Don't use Gods promise as your colors. What you should put on your sign is the picture of an explosion.
Smoke that peace pipe. Ok for you I am a bigot. TOUGH. You Are immoral period. It is an abomination!

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And I've already pointed out that that article glosses over the facts.
The Romans suppressed every major faith they encountered except the Egyptian. How is that tolerance?

Could you cite a source for that?

As I understand it even the oppression of Christianity is largely imaginary:

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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/the-lookout/notre-dame-professor-tackles-myth-christian-martyrdom-151620492.html
Candida Moss, a professor of early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame and a practicing Catholic, wants to shatter what she calls the “myth” of martyrdom in the Christian faith.

Sunday school tales of early Christians being rounded up at their secret catacomb meetings and thrown to the lions by evil Romans are mere fairy tales, Moss writes in a new book. In fact, in the first 250 years of Christianity, Romans mostly regarded the religion's practitioners as meddlesome members of a superstitious cult.

The government actively persecuted Christians for only about 10 years, Moss suggests, and even then intermittently. And, she says, many of the best known early stories of brave Christian martyrs were entirely fabricated.