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RE: Voter ID is the Real Fraud - 5/7/2014 2:56:33 PM

DomKen

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My 80 something year old aunt got on quite well for many years without a current drivers license. When Alabama passed their version of the voter ID law she went through quite a lot of back and forth to get the voter ID. Why would a retired person bother keeping a current ID except for these stupid voter ID laws?

Because without proper ID a person can be delayed in getting medical care. Without proper identification of the patient there is no access to medical history. If you aren't present when your 80 something goes into the E.R. to vouch for his identification; there can be long delays in getting medical history.

If your 80 something gets locked out of his living quarters and police notice him trying to get in; without being able to produce identification you might have to go collect him at the jail.

It is a sad sorry mess that we have to have documentation of our existence and produce them whenever some Gestapo minded organization requires but those are the facts of our society today.

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She had an expired license. She hadn't moved in 30 years and she lives in a small town the cops she isn't related to all know her. She really had absolutely no need to renew he ID.

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RE: Voter ID is the Real Fraud - 5/7/2014 2:59:31 PM

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The people who will be kept from voting... are fucking lazy ass holes I mean it's may voting happens in November can't find a half hour in 6 months to go and get id? You need this shit for so much more then simple voting. To do anything productive in life you need an id.

For my aunt it didn't take half an hour. It took several trips to the DL facility, which was quite a distance away for woman who no longer drives. If she wasn't stubborn and they hadn't made her mad I doubt she would have actually gotten it done.

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RE: Voter ID is the Real Fraud - 5/7/2014 4:40:32 PM

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To say it doesn't happen is niave.

You are misinformed. You are not naive, you are in denial.

The GOP is now reliant upon gerrymandering and voter suppression -- chicanery -- to win elections.

No credible sources report voting fraud anywhere in the USA.

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RE: Voter ID is the Real Fraud - 5/7/2014 4:54:58 PM

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Please do explain how its preventing someone from voting.

seriously you need a fucking ID FOR NEARLY EVERYTHING unless of course your not a legal citizen. How in the world have 30k people survived doing ANYTHING?

Want to go to an r rated movie and look young? ID
Want to buy Cigs? ID
Want to buy Alchohol? ID
Want to get a Job? ID
Want to get a passport? ID
Want to get welfare in most states? ID
Want to cash a check? ID
Want to use a credit card? ID
Want to use a check to pay for something? ID
Want to get a registered substance from a pharmacy? ID
Want to get a package from UPS or FEDEX? ID
Want to buy a gun? ID
Want to buy superglue? ID
want to buy spray paint? ID
Want to buy Cough Syrup? ID
want to fly? ID
Want to buy a car? ID
want to buy most train tickets? ID
Want to open a bank account? ID
Want to rent a house? ID
Want a mortgage? ID
Want to get married? ID
Want to adopt a pet? ID
Want to rent a hotel room? ID
Want a hunting license? ID
Want to get a cell phone? ID
Want to go to the casino? ID
Want to donate blood? ID
Want to buy an M rated video game? ID
Want to buy nail polish at some CVS's? ID

Why is everyone up in fucking arms, because they want to add to the list.

Want to vote? ID

At least half the items in this list require an ID only to establish proof of your age, not to prove who you are.

I bolded the ones that require you to prove who you are... That looks a like a lot more then half...

Where did you learn math?

A significant number of the ones you bolded are things I have done numerous times if not weekly or more often without an ID.

Seriously, when is the last time you had your ID checked to use a credit card.
I've used mine thousands of times in well over a dozen states and it's been years since anyone asked me for an ID.
Same for cashing a check at most merchants in this town.
Buy a car? Ever heard of craigslist?

Alcohol? Only some states.

As for a lot of the rest, a lot of the folks we're talking about are retirees who have their home paid off and have had the same account for 50 years.

As for your disingenuous point about elections being in November, you are obviously just spouting talking points without thinking because there are things called primaries.
How do I know? I voted in one yesterday.

That's right princess. In MAY.

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