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MarkinLaredo -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/5/2014 5:59:00 PM)
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: MarkinLaredo
I guess I should clarify my business experience for the sake of argument.
I have owned and managed transportation and logistics companies, been a hiring manager for many years and currently own my own small business. I managed the maritime division of a company that had a gross income of over $500,000,000.00 annually, with over 200 employees in the offices alone. I am a member of several associations and have received several awards in business. I retired, got bored, went back into working in an office and remembered I hated it, and recently went back to where I started as an owner operator of my own small trucking company.
I could work in any field I chose to work in, have offers from fortune 500 companies several times a year, and turn them down because I do not choose to work in that environment. I make the statements about business not as a paperboy, but as an executive level manager. I do not know what business thompsonx is in, and the statement about newspaperboy or drug dealer shows his lack of ability to have a discussion without name calling. I would not want to work in any office he was running.
This is the internet....
I'll let that sink in for a moment....
A place were anyone can be anything. From a well muscled, strong guy, to someone with ten advanced degrees. Does she have a c-cup or a d? Is that Dom/me single or cheating behind their spouse's back? To say that people can embellish their resumes online is a well known concept to most internet goers.
Your information sounds....alittle hard....to accept as true. Why would someone that can command high profile positions, salaries, and other perks.....enter into a forum like this one? On a topic like this one? While being gay or lesbian may not get you fired, being someone that practices 'safe, sane, and consensual BDSM' can. An employers do not like employees that could run the risk of costing them money on 'unacceptable behavior' in society. How many companies in Iran are run by a women? Not many....
You entered into a discussion where most of us know each other. You blasted forward with an attitude that shows a huge lack of ignorance. And you got replies you did not like. There is a time why you could blast a whole philosophical group, and other times you'll get quite a few replies to counter your viewpoint.
For example...Why do liberals not bash President Obama for all the crap around Snowden and the NSA spying on Americans? To which one or more liberals on here might give you their view. A few others might give you similar or different views. Some of the conservatives on here, are actually intelligent and educated (I don't need to inflate their ego's anymore). And there are plenty of liberals that are the same. An when some of these liberals get out of line, I'll take 'em to task for it (i.e. discussions on the 2nd amendment). Many of us have past jabs and discussions with each other (the many threads on Climate Change come to mind...).
My intention on my post was...NOT...to push you into a corner. While it could be considered harsh, you did start off being pretty harsh yourself. So, in the interest of being fair, I'll apologize if I 'ruffled your feathers'. A good discussion between different viewpoints on a topic in my opinion is good for a society. Forces us to consider different viewpoints and possibly learn something we didn't know before. It usually follows after we say something....dumb....and get owned for it.
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ORIGINAL: MarkinLaredo
Well, I would guess that any author who does not want to sell books might need a day job.
My experience is, unless your a good author; holding a decent job is wise. Unfortunately, I've had to accept and learn the hard way in life, that too is not a simple calculation in life...
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ORIGINAL: MarkinLaredo
Examples of racist liberals.
Roger Clinton, the President’s brother on audiotape
Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve’s ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve’s fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him.”
Just because former President Bill Clinton could be liberal, does not mean those related to him are also liberal. Former President George W. Bush, and former Governor Jeb Bush have very different views on many things. While they are both holding conservative views, one is much deeper conservative than the other. Which might help in explaining why Jeb is not likely to win future GOP nominations unless those doing the voting choose someone closer to the moderate philosophy. Also, I dislike belittling elected officials (or those that have left office). I may dislike Sen. Ted Cruz and former Governor Sarah Palin, but I will not refer to them in many of the disrespectful nicknames I've seen on this and other boards.
I have no evidence that suggest Roger Clinton is a liberal or not. The quote, if that is true is offensive. The man should apologize for it if possible.
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ORIGINAL: MarkinLaredo
Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler’s Book, “Inside The White House”
“I’ll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”
A different era in America. Democrats in his time were Republicans. Republicans in that day would have been Democrats of today. The change in this political philosophy seem to change at the beginning of the Clinton first time administration. A subtly lost on most conservatives, for reasons I don't understand. Mr. G. W. Bush would have been ROASTED for saying such a thing. Mr. Obama is intelligent enough to not say something that stupid on race. Would the next President of the USA say something like this? We'll have to find out...
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ORIGINAL: MarkinLaredo
Left-wing radio host Neil Rogers
“Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey’s cars?”
The guy was out of line and the station apologized for it. Be better if this Mr. Rogers apologized, but he apparently retired in 2009. Mr. Nugent has states some pretty offensive things, and there have been plenty of people that could have apologized for his behavior and none have.....
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ORIGINAL: MarkinLaredo
Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)
Blacks and Hispanics are “too busy eating watermelons and tacos” to learn how to read and write.” — Mike Wallace, CBS News. Source: Newsmax
“You’d find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they’d just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva.”
I can find this on many conservative oriented media sites. Not only that, its often used to slam others in a discussion. Yes, Mr. Wallace stated something that looks and sounds offensive. And there are plenty of others Americans on the conservative side of politics that have stated equally and worst things. Don't see many conservatives holding them responsible do we?
Now can you take conservatives to task for all the offensive and racists quotes that have been said? Its easy to bash others, but harder to defend or apologize for stuff people that share your political outlook.
Ann Coulter
Rush Lingbaugh
Allen West
Clive Bundy
Rick Santorum
Ted Nugent
I can find many more. But here is the point. For everyone one offensive and/or racist thing stated by (as you see it) a liberal; I can find....MANY...examples of stuff conservatives have stated that is offensive and/or racists. If your going to hold that liberals are held to tough accountability and responsibility standards for their words; would that not mean you hold each of these people to several times that?
If you can't, your a hypocrite!
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ORIGINAL: MarkinLaredo
I guess that is enough for one post, trust me the libs are not all out there helping minorities. Most of them would have a black person arrested for driving into their neighborhood if they could get away with it. I could post hundreds of examples of liberal politicians and activists making outright racist statements, and probably several hundred more of them making anti-Semitic remarks. Care to bet on it?
Plenty of minorities live in my neighborhood. Asian, middle east, Europe, African, South America, Latin America, Native America. Maybe even one from Mars....
If that person is driving in a manner not consistent with good driving skills; yes, I will call the police on them. Doesn't matter their skin color! And yes, I could easily match you and more for conservatives will offensive and/or racist remarks. You forget, I've been on this forum....LONGER. And I know which of the posters on here are more likely to have made offensive and/or racists comments. And the usual suspects on this forum know of one name I could bring up quite readily. In fact, they just groan upon reading the previous sentence....
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ORIGINAL: MarkinLaredo
Now I will let you all think on this: Is it beneficial to minorities to bind them to a system that takes their confidence in themselves and replaces it with a crutch of alleged inability to make it on their own?
You view things as a crutch. Could you say the same being one of those minority groups? If the reports are true, in a few decades, whites will be the minority. Would it not be wise to make sure programs, laws, and systems are in place if that were to happen? Since that is what business people in high level management positions do.....plan on future events (good or bad).. If what you said above in this post is true, I would expect you to understand this from a business perspective. The question is could you also understand this from a social and financial perspective?
I know plenty of Eagle Scouts that had a very tough time acquiring the award (and from minority groups in America). They didn't get it by just hard work and study. It took many people along the way to get them to that point.
I guess you can get away with calling anything said by anyone you disagree with a lie. I put my employment and business experience out there because, unlike many chickenshit posters in forums, the people I work with know that I am not the average vanilla guy. If you were to ask nicely I could provide linked in and other places where my very same photos I have on my profile here are used. I do not hide who I am, I do not hide how I live my life. You call me a liar, or at the very least say you do not believe that anyone with my background is on the forums... how do you know who you are talking to? Do you think that everyone on here is broke? Do you think that businessmen, even upper management types are not into BDSM? Now I think you are really just a twit, people who post on any forum should not hide behind anonymity, that is cowardice of the worst kind.
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