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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/20/2016 10:59:47 PM   
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Don't think by grossing me out that your position has any validities.

Your lust seems to have prevented you from recognizing my position.
The bulls eye on a 25 yd. target is about an inch and a half in diameter. People who know how to shoot hit that inch and a half bulls eye pretty reguarly.
I never said a word about hitting a foot at 25 yards until ifmaz lied about me of doing so. At which time I agreed that I could do it. He appears to spend his time at the range drooling over cars in the parking lot that he cannot afford,swilling down booze in the adjacent beer joint and complaining about the chafe on his tummy from his gucci iwb holster. He seems to feel that because he hasn't spent the requisite time on the line practicing the skills necessary to use a pistol effectively he is offended that anyone else would.
Now he has "called me out" ,just as any red blooded jr. high schooler would, "after second period study hall behind the gym".
My original claim, which originally appeared in this thread, shows I said 10' not 25 yards.
You claim you were with "alcoholics all of us" for a while. Did you not know anyone in that group who could shoot a pistol?
Do you shoot that well? If not are you jealous of those who can?
If you think I cannot do as I say I can perhaps you would like to join him in his trip to california with your own $25,000?
Or...
are you willing to accept the fact that it is not all that difficult of a shot for someone who knows how to shoot?


I'm not going back to read every tit for tat exchange here. The main point of contention is if you need to defend yourself, whether it's 10 feet or 25 yards, ya shoot at the center of mass if at all possible. I know this, imaz knows this, most handgun owners who are prepared to use their weapons for self defence know this and the American people know this. All combat handgun instructors teach this.

Besides, ya never know if some one is wearing bullet proof socks



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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/21/2016 1:03:41 AM   
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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/21/2016 6:40:44 AM   
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Your lust seems to have prevented you from recognizing my position.
The bulls eye on a 25 yd. target is about an inch and a half in diameter. People who know how to shoot hit that inch and a half bulls eye pretty reguarly.
I never said a word about hitting a foot at 25 yards until ifmaz lied about me of doing so. At which time I agreed that I could do it. He appears to spend his time at the range drooling over cars in the parking lot that he cannot afford,swilling down booze in the adjacent beer joint and complaining about the chafe on his tummy from his gucci iwb holster. He seems to feel that because he hasn't spent the requisite time on the line practicing the skills necessary to use a pistol effectively he is offended that anyone else would.
Now he has "called me out" ,just as any red blooded jr. high schooler would, "after second period study hall behind the gym".
My original claim, which originally appeared in this thread, shows I said 10' not 25 yards.
You claim you were with "alcoholics all of us" for a while. Did you not know anyone in that group who could shoot a pistol?
Do you shoot that well? If not are you jealous of those who can?
If you think I cannot do as I say I can perhaps you would like to join him in his trip to california with your own $25,000?
Or...
are you willing to accept the fact that it is not all that difficult of a shot for someone who knows how to shoot?


I'm not going back to read every tit for tat exchange here. The main point of contention is if you need to defend yourself, whether it's 10 feet or 25 yards, ya shoot at the center of mass if at all possible. I know this, imaz knows this, most handgun owners who are prepared to use their weapons for self defence know this and the American people know this. All combat handgun instructors teach this.

It is a a truism that when someone says "everyone knows that" the fact is that no one "knows"that. Center of mass is an easy target, which is why it is taught. My point was and is that I and any capable marksman can stop an assailant with a less than lethal shot.
That I can and you others cannot speaks more to jealousy than the validity of your opinion.


Besides, ya never know if some one is wearing bullet proof socks


Typically those projectils moving faster than about 900fps will penetrate kevlar body armor


The CCI Velocitor hyper-velocity round uses the standard long rifle case size and a standard weight 40 gr (2.6 g) bullet of proprietary hollow-point design to augment expansion and trauma. This cartridge has a muzzle velocity of 1,435 ft/s (437 m/s).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/23/2016 5:58:35 PM   
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Is it the lack of money or the lack of balls that has caused you to shut up instead of put up?

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/23/2016 7:50:10 PM   
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Is it the lack of money or the lack of balls that has caused you to shut up instead of put up?


It's the lack of a phone number, name, etc for your make-believe lawyer.

I was thinking you would quit this stupidity but I see I was, unfortunately, wrong.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 4:14:59 AM   
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1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

You are a liar. Show me where I said that prior to the time stamp on your post.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 7:14:40 AM   
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1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

You are a liar. Show me where I said that prior to the time stamp on your post.


I don't know why you keep posting this as I've already explained it to you. If it makes you feel better by mistakenly calling me a liar, so be it; everyone in this lazarus thread knows who the liar is.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 7:19:08 AM   
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1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

You are a liar. Show me where I said that prior to the time stamp on your post.


I don't know why you keep posting this as I've already explained it to you.


No you posted links to post after the time stamp and that proves you are a liar.



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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 7:38:32 AM   
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1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

You are a liar. Show me where I said that prior to the time stamp on your post.


I don't know why you keep posting this as I've already explained it to you.


No you posted links to post after the time stamp and that proves you are a liar.


I've already told you, the post you made was from 2014, which is over a year before I joined the site, and was not directed at me (how could it, as I hadn't joined); it was directed at igor2003. I know this because of the (in reply to igor2003) at the bottom of your 2014 post. OUR conversations, the ones between you and I (and not igor2003) that came after I joined the site and were directed at each other (not igor2003), went from 100-500 yards down to 25 yards, at which time you said "at 25 yards I can specify which toe". Thus the wager then became you being able to hit a specific toe from 25 yards; your previous posts (ie the ones in this thread, which, again, ended over a year before I joined the site and were directed to igor2003) are irrelevant.

I don't know why this is so difficult for you to comprehend. The post you're referring to is now nearly two years old. Our conversations are less than 6 months old, the wager originating on 1/1/2016 -- over a year after your 2014 post, which, again, was not directed at me.

The only thing you've proven is your inability to admit when you are wrong. OK, and a few other things but I'm taking the high road by not insulting a confused old man.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 7:50:15 AM   
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1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

You are a liar. Show me where I said that prior to the time stamp on your post.


I don't know why you keep posting this as I've already explained it to you.


No you posted links to post after the time stamp and that proves you are a liar.


I've already told you, the post you made was from 2014, which is over a year before I joined the site, and was not directed at me (how could it, as I hadn't joined); it was directed at igor2003. I know this because of the (in reply to igor2003) at the bottom of your 2014 post. OUR conversations, the ones between you and I (and not igor2003) that came after I joined the site and were directed at each other (not igor2003), went from 100-500 yards down to 25 yards, at which time you said "at 25 yards I can specify which toe". Thus the wager then became you being able to hit a specific toe from 25 yards; your previous posts (ie the ones in this thread, which, again, ended over a year before I joined the site and were directed to igor2003) are irrelevant.

I don't know why this is so difficult for you to comprehend. The post you're referring to is now nearly two years old. Our conversations are less than 6 months old, the wager originating on 1/1/2016 -- over a year after your 2014 post, which, again, was not directed at me.

The only thing you've proven is your inability to admit when you are wrong. OK, and a few other things but I'm taking the high road by not insulting a confused old man.

And you have yet to show where I made that statement before your time stamp. The reason I moved this discussion here is so you could post from the original data. So far you have been unable to do so.
So your original date stamped lie has yet to be refuted.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 7:44:41 PM   
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And you have yet to show where I made that statement before your time stamp. The reason I moved this discussion here is so you could post from the original data. So far you have been unable to do so.
So your original date stamped lie has yet to be refuted.


You're a special kind of stupid.

I don't know where you're getting this time stamp thing from. As I've repeatedly explained, your post was from 2014 and not directed at me. I can't understand this for you and have no idea how this fits into the wager we made on 1/1/2016. I have no idea why you're repeatedly calling me a liar about a post I never even knew you made because the thread ended over a year before I joined the site.

But OK, let's try this another way. Show me where you said 10' in any conversation between you and I in the year 2016.


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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 8:17:01 PM   
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1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

Cite please.
Where did you get this. I never said this before you posted this lie.



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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 8:30:05 PM   
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While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

Cite please.
Where did you get this. I never said this before you posted this lie.





You talk so much shit I don't know whether to offer you a breath mint or toilet paper.

How is it a lie, thompson? I made an offer to you: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice. You responded "at 25 yards I can specify which toe".

Additionally, why are you avoiding the discrepancy between you posting in 2014 (again, over a year before I joined the site), addressing the post to someone else, and then attempting to bring a nearly 2 year old post into a current conversation?

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 8:35:08 PM   
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1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

Cite please.
Where did you get this. I never said this before you posted this lie.



How is it a lie, thompson? I made an offer to you: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.


So now you admit that I never said that. That you and not I set the distance.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 8:41:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx



ORIGINAL: ifmaz
1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

Cite please.
Where did you get this. I never said this before you posted this lie.



How is it a lie, thompson? I made an offer to you: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.


So now you admit that I never said that. That you and not I set the distance.


Seriously, you are a special kind of stupid.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 8:44:39 PM   
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1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

Cite please.
Where did you get this. I never said this before you posted this lie.



How is it a lie, thompson? I made an offer to you: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.


So now you admit that I never said that. That you and not I set the distance.


A simple yes or no will be sufficient

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 8:47:18 PM   
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1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

Cite please.
Where did you get this. I never said this before you posted this lie.



How is it a lie, thompson? I made an offer to you: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.


So now you admit that I never said that. That you and not I set the distance.


A simple yes or no will be sufficient


I said a foot at 25 yards. You upped the ante with a toe at 25 yards. I agreed. You resurrect a two year old thread saying you never agreed to 25 yards and have spent, what, four pages worth of posts arguing over something that took place a year before I joined the site.

In response to your question: yes, you are a special kind of stupid.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 8:53:43 PM   
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1/19/2016 7:57:24 PM


While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

Cite please.
Where did you get this. I never said this before you posted this lie.



How is it a lie, thompson? I made an offer to you: shoot a fast-moving, foot-sized target from 25 yards and I will donate $100 to the charity of your choice.


So now you admit that I never said that. That you and not I set the distance.
[/quote]

A simple yes or no will be sufficient
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I said a foot at 25 yards. You upped the ante with a toe at 25 yards. I agreed. You resurrect a two year old thread saying you never agreed to 25 yards and have spent, what, four pages worth of posts arguing over something that took place a year before I joined the site.

In response to your question: yes, you are a special kind of stupid.

My question was So now you admit that I never said that. That you and not I set the distance.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/24/2016 9:19:57 PM   
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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/26/2016 3:36:54 AM   
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In response to your question: yes

I will be at mcrd san diego next week. I have been invited to attend the graduation of d co. 1st bn. I will be free thursday morning. Base legal is in building 12 at 3100 chosin ave.
They will be open at 0800.
The public is invited to the graduation so all you need to get on the base is show your id and have the registration and insurance for your vehicle. The p at the gate will give you directions to base legal. After you have signed the waiver and deposited the money with "my lawyer" (the next jag officer in line) we (as in me and thee) have been invited to visit the home of one of the drill instructors of d co. He lives on some acreage about fifteen minutes from the base.
We will, however, have an audience...several other drill instructors want to watch.
You can bring a doctor if you like but please do not forget the money...cash no cheques or promisory notes.

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