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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/31/2016 10:51:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


Since I am the one who was "called out" my choice of weapon was a .22 pistol. Specifically a hi-standard auto-loader with a 10 round magazine loaded with wrm (winchester rimfire magnum)40gr.jhp(jacketed hollow point). When fired through a 10" barrel it will achieve about 1800 fps.muzzle velocity.
A running person will move about 9' per second. At 75' it will take the bullet about .024 sec to reach the target. What this means is that the bullet strike will be behind the point of aim by about a quarter of an inch. The foot is moving in a fore and aft direction and an up and down direction not side to side. thus the foot never leaves the sight picture and the point of aim and the point of impact will be seperated by a fraction of an inch.
Was that way too much information?



Maybe a little. ::grins:: .22 pistol. Okay.. you gave me something to do today while I wait for my candy to set (chocolate covered English toffee). I'm off to read about .22's. Thanks Thompson.

I'm still thinking that the bet isn't at all outrageous though. Certainly not impossible if someone practices.

I'm putting a dollar that Thompson can do it. I think Michael might have gotten pretty damn close and he was no sharp shooter.. just a good shot. Hmm.. maybe not. The only moving targets we were ever really involved with utilized neon guns, grandkids and The Nerf Wars Offensive. The kids developed a swarming technique and Michael always lost the War.




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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/31/2016 10:56:49 AM   
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Get your facts straight or shut the fuck up, douche-canoe

Dude...you have my most humble appologies for mistaking you for an ex marine...I obviously missinterpreted this of yours:
"For those who read down to the bottom and don't know; "once a Marine, always a Marine" as long as one hasn't been dishonorably discharged. "

(By the way, you've now "outed yourself" to me. I know whose sock you are. I'll be reporting it. There's rules about posting as two different posters on the same thread, chicken)

How about a clue...who do you believe I am?




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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/31/2016 12:11:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee



I believe thompson's original claim was that he could shoot the toe off of an attacker running towards him at 25 yards with a handgun.

A foot, of course, would be making an up and down and forward and back motion instead of an arc. That is a big difference in following a moving target.


Ah, that's the post I was looking for which I couldn't find. I thought it was just a 1' moving target hence my confusion.


Okay.. I'm thinking the guys going to be wearing shoes so, targeting a toe .. yeah.. that's a tough shot.

Sorry for the thread derail everyone. Go back to beating folks. I'm an advocate. ;)


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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 3/31/2016 12:24:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
ORIGINAL: Aylee

I believe thompson's original claim was that he could shoot the toe off of an attacker running towards him at 25 yards with a handgun.

A foot, of course, would be making an up and down and forward and back motion instead of an arc. That is a big difference in following a moving target.


Ah, that's the post I was looking for which I couldn't find. I thought it was just a 1' moving target hence my confusion.


Okay.. I'm thinking the guys going to be wearing shoes so, targeting a toe .. yeah.. that's a tough shot.

The big toe is the same place on everyone's foot. The big toe is about 1 inch from the tip to the frst knuckle and about an inch wide. The bulls eye on a 25 yard pistol target is 1.51" in diameter. For practice we used to hang a golf ball from the overhead with a string and set it to swinging side to side and hit it while it was singing.
When I was in school I was on the fencing team and the same thing was used to practice lunges. The coach was a bit of a stickler for form so no one was allowed to face a human opponent until they could demonstrate 100 consecutive hits on the moving golf ball. Side to side not fore and aft. Not terribly difficult if one knows how.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/1/2016 9:44:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


Since I am the one who was "called out" my choice of weapon was a .22 pistol. Specifically a hi-standard auto-loader with a 10 round magazine loaded with wrm (winchester rimfire magnum)40gr.jhp(jacketed hollow point). When fired through a 10" barrel it will achieve about 1800 fps.muzzle velocity.
A running person will move about 9' per second. At 75' it will take the bullet about .024 sec to reach the target. What this means is that the bullet strike will be behind the point of aim by about a quarter of an inch. The foot is moving in a fore and aft direction and an up and down direction not side to side. thus the foot never leaves the sight picture and the point of aim and the point of impact will be seperated by a fraction of an inch.
Was that way too much information?



Maybe a little. ::grins:: .22 pistol. Okay.. you gave me something to do today while I wait for my candy to set (chocolate covered English toffee). I'm off to read about .22's. Thanks Thompson.

I'm still thinking that the bet isn't at all outrageous though. Certainly not impossible if someone practices.

I'm putting a dollar that Thompson can do it. I think Michael might have gotten pretty damn close and he was no sharp shooter.. just a good shot. Hmm.. maybe not. The only moving targets we were ever really involved with utilized neon guns, grandkids and The Nerf Wars Offensive. The kids developed a swarming technique and Michael always lost the War.






there you go, quoting felch boy and I had to see it.

First there is no high standard 10" barrel winmag. http://highstandard.com/index.php/weapons-a-products/weapons?id=111

Second felch is trying to convince you that he is better than the the best army snipes and marksmen, sure he is in his vivid troll imagination.

Third its not accurate enough to for anyone to make such a claim, youd be lucky to hold under a 2" group.

Finally felch boy is trying to sell you that a foot hitting the ground in which its impossible to predict where with any kind of precision for less than 1/4 of a second, and felch with his imaginary gun that is lucky to hold a 2" group is going to aquire the target in less than a 1/4 second and hit a big toe....

Now lets get serious here, I have a bridge in florida, interested?

Theres a damn good reason I have felch on iggy





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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/1/2016 10:00:11 AM   
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Model TX9252 Thus endeth the lesson, you may sit down and learn the material before you speak, Real0ne.

And I dont even know high standard stuff real well, they could have a ton of them.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/1/2016 10:02:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne




there you go, quoting felch boy and I had to see it.


Felch boy? I did not quote anyone named felch boy so we don't even have a beginning. Why did you just tell such a blatant and deliberate lie?

If you want to have an adult conversation with me, I will engage in an adult fashion with you. If you want to play silly games, there are already children in the sandbox with you.

First and last, savvy?




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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/1/2016 10:20:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
ORIGINAL: thompsonx


Since I am the one who was "called out" my choice of weapon was a .22 pistol. Specifically a hi-standard auto-loader with a 10 round magazine loaded with wrm (winchester rimfire magnum)40gr.jhp(jacketed hollow point). When fired through a 10" barrel it will achieve about 1800 fps.muzzle velocity.
A running person will move about 9' per second. At 75' it will take the bullet about .024 sec to reach the target. What this means is that the bullet strike will be behind the point of aim by about a quarter of an inch. The foot is moving in a fore and aft direction and an up and down direction not side to side. thus the foot never leaves the sight picture and the point of aim and the point of impact will be seperated by a fraction of an inch.
Was that way too much information?

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Maybe a little. ::grins:: .22 pistol. Okay.. you gave me something to do today while I wait for my candy to set (chocolate covered English toffee). I'm off to read about .22's. Thanks Thompson.

I'm still thinking that the bet isn't at all outrageous though. Certainly not impossible if someone practices.

I'm putting a dollar that Thompson can do it. I think Michael might have gotten pretty damn close and he was no sharp shooter.. just a good shot. Hmm.. maybe not. The only moving targets we were ever really involved with utilized neon guns, grandkids and The Nerf Wars Offensive. The kids developed a swarming technique and Michael always lost the War.


there you go, quoting felch boy and I had to see it.

So we have your admission that you have no intelectual capacity to ignore what you see...it needs to be done for you.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.




First there is no high standard 10" barrel winmag. http://highstandard.com/index.php/weapons-a-products/weapons?id=111


Perhaps you might get a grown up to read the big words to you. That is a rifle, we are discussing pistols.
bullets= 40gr.jhp wrm(winchester rimfire magnum)
Pistol=high standard model tx 9252


http://www.highstandard.com/index.php/weapons-a-products/weapons?id=90

Second felch is trying to convince you that he is better than the the best army snipes and marksmen, sure he is in his vivid troll imagination.

Third its not accurate enough to for anyone to make such a claim, youd be lucky to hold under a 2" group.

The bulls eye on a 25 yard nra pistol target is 1.51" in diameter and your ignorant opinion is that no one can hit it.

Finally felch boy is trying to sell you that a foot hitting the ground in which its impossible to predict where with any kind of precision for less than 1/4 of a second, and felch with his imaginary gun that is lucky to hold a 2" group is going to aquire the target in less than a 1/4 second and hit a big toe....

A running man moves at about 9' per second putting his foot on the ground for about .333 seconds. Once the foot is planted it is stationary. The bullet takes about .0247 seconds to travel 75'. Perhaps you could get a grown up to do the math for you?

Now lets get serious here, I have a bridge in florida, interested?

If you have ten toes, a pair of balls and 25k my offer is open to you also.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/1/2016 8:12:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Quite understndable. You have neither the money or toes to spare.


Again, are you entirely sure you know my financial situation?

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Videos can be easily faked.


Sure, thompson.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You are the one who said "I am calling you out" I have offered you access to my lawyer, giving you the address and the time we will be available.


You've offered unnamed people at some base in San Diego, no one specific.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Since base legal is a walk in the lawyer will be whoever is on duty at the time. Base legal is in building 12 which is 3100 chosin ave. mcrd san diego ca.


So you don't actually have a lawyer even though you've repeatedly claimed otherwise. Understood.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Not only that but my guess is your mom wont let you cross the street by yourself either.


60+ years on this planet and this is the cheap shot you choose? Have a do-over. Put some effort into it this time.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
I would be the one with the gun...no duress on my part...the one being shot at would be the one under duress.


Again, it's becoming increasingly obvious you've never been in a stressful situation where you've needed to fire a weapon, let alone actually fired a weapon.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Well mikey for someone who claims to have been a marine you do not seem to know who smedley was nor what simper fi actually means.


I believe the phrase is "semper fi". The I and E keys are on opposite ends of the keyboard.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Since I am the one who was "called out" my choice of weapon was a .22 pistol. Specifically a hi-standard auto-loader with a 10 round magazine loaded with wrm (winchester rimfire magnum)40gr.jhp(jacketed hollow point). When fired through a 10" barrel it will achieve about 1800 fps.muzzle velocity.


Who uses .22 rimfire besides children? Why not use a normal (ie 1911 or M9/M9A1) sidearm?

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Then you obviously believe wrongly. My original claim was 10' not 75'. It was ifmaz who first stated that I had said 75'. Since either shot is well within my capability I went one better and said I could not only do it but specify which toe.


This again? You said 10' in 2014, over a year before I joined the site and nearly two years before we had a conversation regarding any sort of distance. Our conversations started in January of 2016 and were initially 100-500 yards, then reduced to 25 yards, after which you said "at 25 yards I can specify which toe". You then abruptly accused me of lying about the 25 yard distance and resurrected a nearly two-year-old thread claiming you wanted to take the conversation back to where it had "originated" even though that conversation never involved me and had ended over a year before I joined the site. You have still not addressed this obvious discrepancy yet continue to whine about your 2014 post. What's more likely: that I took the time to search for your posts, noted one from 2014, drew you into a conversation, and made a bet at a longer distance or that you resurrected a nearly two year old thread after realizing you could not make the shot you insisted was easy?

You've put up artificial barrier after artificial barrier: first, my offer of $100 to the charity of your choice would instead go into your wallet; $100 was suddenly "chicken shit" even though you continue to insist the shot was easy to make; the demand for $25,000 and to have lawyers involved even though you are still unable to refer me to your lawyer; you want to shoot at me, presumably because you're psychotic; your availability, after three months, is limited to a single day during normal working hours. What's a more likely scenario: you can make the shot and are putting up artificial barriers for no discernible reason or you are putting up artificial barriers in an attempt to hide your inability to make the "easy" shot?

You've repeatedly said you would be (not "might be", but "would be" and "will be") attending a ceremony in San Diego on the 31st. The MCRD website says the graduation day starts at 0630 with a breakfast buffet until 0900, a color ceremony at 0900-0930, graduation seating 0830-0945 with a message that attendees must be in their seats by 0945, and the graduation ceremony itself at 1000-1200. During this time, however, you were happily posting on this website, starting at 5:46AM and continuing pretty regularly through 12:39PM before starting up again at 8:12PM. Per Google Maps, a trip from Barstow to MCRD is roughly 2 hours and 42 minutes (let's call it 2:30 and be overly optimistic about road conditions and traffic); a round trip would be approximately 5 hours. Did you drive to MCRD on the 31st to spend under 3 hours there after all the ceremonies had completed only to rush back to the comfort of your couch and continue posting on this site? Assuming for a moment you confused the days and meant the 1st, you started posting today at 5:26AM and continued steadily through 10:37AM, starting back up at 4:47PM. Making a 2 hour and 30 minute drive leaves you with a scant 10 minutes to say hi to people at MCRD before hopping back in your car and high-tailing it back to Barstow in order to continue posting here. You will, of course, retort that you decided not to attend as I was unable to attend, no doubt disappointing your drill instructor friends anticipating your arrival. While plausible, it is far more likely you lied about going to San Diego.

Surely by now, three months after the original wager, you could have provided something, ANYTHING, to show you were remotely capable of doing what you said. No one teaching any form of self defense recommends shooting at a foot (let alone a toe) instead of center mass yet somehow an elderly male on a BSDM forum that clearly constitutes a large portion of his social interaction insists that not only is such a shot easy but should be taught, however when asked to demonstrate such a feat he defers repeatedly and makes unreasonable demands. Who is more than likely wrong in this scenario: the entirety of the self defense community or the lonely, elderly man who has put up numerous artificial barriers and has been lying about numerous items in his claims?

I'm sure you'll have some decidedly lowbrow comeback involving my intelligence level or my mother, but really anything you post after this, unless it's a video of you making the shot under the conditions discussed, will only further illustrate what we already know: you are a fake and a liar.

It gives me no pleasure to tear down a lonely old man. This will be my last post on the subject.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 4:09:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You are the one who said "I am calling you out" I have offered you access to my lawyer, giving you the address and the time we will be available.


You've offered unnamed people at some base in San Diego, no one specific.

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Since base legal is a walk in the lawyer will be whoever is on duty at the time. Base legal is in building 12 which is 3100 chosin ave. mcrd san diego ca.


So you don't actually have a lawyer even though you've repeatedly claimed otherwise. Understood.

Not just some base but a specific base in a specific building...a lawyer who does what I tell him to do is my lawyer.



ORIGINAL: thompsonx
I would be the one with the gun...no duress on my part...the one being shot at would be the one under duress.


Again, it's becoming increasingly obvious you've never been in a stressful situation where you've needed to fire a weapon, let alone actually fired a weapon.

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Well mikey for someone who claims to have been a marine you do not seem to know who smedley was nor what simper fi actually means.


I believe the phrase is "semper fi". The I and E keys are on opposite ends of the keyboard.


I have mentioned before I incorporate misspelled words in my post so tht fools that have nothing to say can post and feel as if they have contributed. It is a public service I perform for the retarded.

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Since I am the one who was "called out" my choice of weapon was a .22 pistol. Specifically a hi-standard auto-loader with a 10 round magazine loaded with wrm (winchester rimfire magnum)40gr.jhp(jacketed hollow point). When fired through a 10" barrel it will achieve about 1800 fps.muzzle velocity.


Who uses .22 rimfire besides children? Why not use a normal (ie 1911 or M9/M9A1) sidearm?



minimal recoil,twice the muzzle velocity, pretty simple when one thinks about it.

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Then you obviously believe wrongly. My original claim was 10' not 75'. It was ifmaz who first stated that I had said 75'. Since either shot is well within my capability I went one better and said I could not only do it but specify which toe.


This again? You said 10' in 2014, over a year before I joined the site and nearly two years before we had a conversation regarding any sort of distance. Our conversations started in January of 2016 and were initially 100-500 yards, then reduced to 25 yards, after which you said "at 25 yards I can specify which toe". You then abruptly accused me of lying about the 25 yard distance and resurrected a nearly two-year-old thread claiming you wanted to take the conversation back to where it had "originated" even though that conversation never involved me and had ended over a year before I joined the site. You have still not addressed this obvious discrepancy yet continue to whine about your 2014 post. What's more likely: that I took the time to search for your posts, noted one from 2014, drew you into a conversation, and made a bet at a longer distance or that you resurrected a nearly two year old thread after realizing you could not make the shot you insisted was easy?


Yet you have failed to produce any evidence of this challange prior to the date stamp on the post in question which says that you are repeating your challange.

You've put up artificial barrier after artificial barrier: first, my offer of $100 to the charity of your choice would instead go into your wallet; $100 was suddenly "chicken shit" even though you continue to insist the shot was easy to make; the demand for $25,000 and to have lawyers involved even though you are still unable to refer me to your lawyer; you want to shoot at me,

Just your big toe.


presumably because you're psychotic; your availability, after three months, is limited to a single day during normal working hours. What's a more likely scenario: you can make the shot and are putting up artificial barriers for no discernible reason or you are putting up artificial barriers in an attempt to hide your inability to make the "easy" shot?

Mcrd provides a secure environment for you and a lawyer preparing a waiver and holding the money protects me from any liability for your foolishness. and ensures that you actually have the money.


You made the challange, it is my perogative to set the parameters. Why do you feel I am obligated to jump through your hoops for a chicken shit $100?

You've repeatedly said you would be (not "might be", but "would be" and "will be") attending a ceremony in San Diego on the 31st. The MCRD website says the graduation day starts at 0630 with a breakfast buffet until 0900, a color ceremony at 0900-0930, graduation seating 0830-0945 with a message that attendees must be in their seats by 0945, and the graduation ceremony itself at 1000-1200. During this time, however, you were happily posting on this website, starting at 5:46AM and continuing pretty regularly through 12:39PM before starting up again at 8:12PM. Per Google Maps, a trip from Barstow to MCRD is roughly 2 hours and 42 minutes (let's call it 2:30 and be overly optimistic about road conditions and traffic); a round trip would be approximately 5 hours. Did you drive to MCRD on the 31st to spend under 3 hours there after all the ceremonies had completed only to rush back to the comfort of your couch and continue posting on this site? Assuming for a moment you confused the days and meant the 1st, you started posting today at 5:26AM and continued steadily through 10:37AM, starting back up at 4:47PM. Making a 2 hour and 30 minute drive leaves you with a scant 10 minutes to say hi to people at MCRD before hopping back in your car and high-tailing it back to Barstow in order to continue posting here. You will, of course, retort that you decided not to attend as I was unable to attend, no doubt disappointing your drill instructor friends anticipating your arrival. While plausible, it is far more likely you lied about going to San Diego.

I have no desire to wedge myself into a tight time schedule. I simply go the day before. Get a convenient parking place, check into my room and leasurely spend some time with friends. Lodging on base cost me $22 per night and a chow pass is $6 a day. I have a laptop and a wifi hotspot on my phone so I can post anywhere at any time.
As I mentioned base legal is open for this type of walk in only from 08:00 to 10:00. The paperwork should not take more than a half hour. It is a short walk from building 12 to the grinder(parade deck) Since you sniveled out of the bet the day before I had plenty of leasure time to play on my computer.




Surely by now, three months after the original wager, you could have provided something, ANYTHING, to show you were remotely capable of doing what you said. No one teaching any form of self defense recommends shooting at a foot (let alone a toe) instead of center mass yet somehow an elderly male on a BSDM forum that clearly constitutes a large portion of his social interaction insists that not only is such a shot easy but should be taught,

I said I could do it. I said that shooting com has the advantage of leaving fewer witnesses. I said that if you can't hit what you aim at you should not be shooting. The rest of that drivel is your imagination.


however when asked to demonstrate such a feat he defers repeatedly and makes unreasonable demands. Who is more than likely wrong in this scenario: the entirety of the self defense community or the lonely, elderly man who has put up numerous artificial barriers and has been lying about numerous items in his claims?

I'm sure you'll have some decidedly lowbrow comeback involving my intelligence level or my mother, but really anything you post after this, unless it's a video of you making the shot under the conditions discussed, will only further illustrate what we already know: you are a fake and a liar.

It gives me no pleasure to tear down a lonely old man. This will be my last post on the subject.

So your sniviling about how busy you are at work will stop...how kewel.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 5:47:01 AM   
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Who uses .22 rimfire besides children? Why not use a normal (ie 1911 or M9/M9A1) sidearm?


Assassins, mostly.

And while I know it isn't worth much, I can assure you Huntie was in the suck, and did fire weapons under stress. Drill Sergeants can be such pricks (at the very least)

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 8:35:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ifmaz

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Quite understndable. You have neither the money or toes to spare.


Again, are you entirely sure you know my financial situation?

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Videos can be easily faked.


Sure, thompson.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You are the one who said "I am calling you out" I have offered you access to my lawyer, giving you the address and the time we will be available.


You've offered unnamed people at some base in San Diego, no one specific.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Since base legal is a walk in the lawyer will be whoever is on duty at the time. Base legal is in building 12 which is 3100 chosin ave. mcrd san diego ca.


So you don't actually have a lawyer even though you've repeatedly claimed otherwise. Understood.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Not only that but my guess is your mom wont let you cross the street by yourself either.


60+ years on this planet and this is the cheap shot you choose? Have a do-over. Put some effort into it this time.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
I would be the one with the gun...no duress on my part...the one being shot at would be the one under duress.


Again, it's becoming increasingly obvious you've never been in a stressful situation where you've needed to fire a weapon, let alone actually fired a weapon.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Well mikey for someone who claims to have been a marine you do not seem to know who smedley was nor what simper fi actually means.


I believe the phrase is "semper fi". The I and E keys are on opposite ends of the keyboard.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Since I am the one who was "called out" my choice of weapon was a .22 pistol. Specifically a hi-standard auto-loader with a 10 round magazine loaded with wrm (winchester rimfire magnum)40gr.jhp(jacketed hollow point). When fired through a 10" barrel it will achieve about 1800 fps.muzzle velocity.


Who uses .22 rimfire besides children? Why not use a normal (ie 1911 or M9/M9A1) sidearm?

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Then you obviously believe wrongly. My original claim was 10' not 75'. It was ifmaz who first stated that I had said 75'. Since either shot is well within my capability I went one better and said I could not only do it but specify which toe.


This again? You said 10' in 2014, over a year before I joined the site and nearly two years before we had a conversation regarding any sort of distance. Our conversations started in January of 2016 and were initially 100-500 yards, then reduced to 25 yards, after which you said "at 25 yards I can specify which toe". You then abruptly accused me of lying about the 25 yard distance and resurrected a nearly two-year-old thread claiming you wanted to take the conversation back to where it had "originated" even though that conversation never involved me and had ended over a year before I joined the site. You have still not addressed this obvious discrepancy yet continue to whine about your 2014 post. What's more likely: that I took the time to search for your posts, noted one from 2014, drew you into a conversation, and made a bet at a longer distance or that you resurrected a nearly two year old thread after realizing you could not make the shot you insisted was easy?

You've put up artificial barrier after artificial barrier: first, my offer of $100 to the charity of your choice would instead go into your wallet; $100 was suddenly "chicken shit" even though you continue to insist the shot was easy to make; the demand for $25,000 and to have lawyers involved even though you are still unable to refer me to your lawyer; you want to shoot at me, presumably because you're psychotic; your availability, after three months, is limited to a single day during normal working hours. What's a more likely scenario: you can make the shot and are putting up artificial barriers for no discernible reason or you are putting up artificial barriers in an attempt to hide your inability to make the "easy" shot?

You've repeatedly said you would be (not "might be", but "would be" and "will be") attending a ceremony in San Diego on the 31st. The MCRD website says the graduation day starts at 0630 with a breakfast buffet until 0900, a color ceremony at 0900-0930, graduation seating 0830-0945 with a message that attendees must be in their seats by 0945, and the graduation ceremony itself at 1000-1200. During this time, however, you were happily posting on this website, starting at 5:46AM and continuing pretty regularly through 12:39PM before starting up again at 8:12PM. Per Google Maps, a trip from Barstow to MCRD is roughly 2 hours and 42 minutes (let's call it 2:30 and be overly optimistic about road conditions and traffic); a round trip would be approximately 5 hours. Did you drive to MCRD on the 31st to spend under 3 hours there after all the ceremonies had completed only to rush back to the comfort of your couch and continue posting on this site? Assuming for a moment you confused the days and meant the 1st, you started posting today at 5:26AM and continued steadily through 10:37AM, starting back up at 4:47PM. Making a 2 hour and 30 minute drive leaves you with a scant 10 minutes to say hi to people at MCRD before hopping back in your car and high-tailing it back to Barstow in order to continue posting here. You will, of course, retort that you decided not to attend as I was unable to attend, no doubt disappointing your drill instructor friends anticipating your arrival. While plausible, it is far more likely you lied about going to San Diego.

Surely by now, three months after the original wager, you could have provided something, ANYTHING, to show you were remotely capable of doing what you said. No one teaching any form of self defense recommends shooting at a foot (let alone a toe) instead of center mass yet somehow an elderly male on a BSDM forum that clearly constitutes a large portion of his social interaction insists that not only is such a shot easy but should be taught, however when asked to demonstrate such a feat he defers repeatedly and makes unreasonable demands. Who is more than likely wrong in this scenario: the entirety of the self defense community or the lonely, elderly man who has put up numerous artificial barriers and has been lying about numerous items in his claims?

I'm sure you'll have some decidedly lowbrow comeback involving my intelligence level or my mother, but really anything you post after this, unless it's a video of you making the shot under the conditions discussed, will only further illustrate what we already know: you are a fake and a liar.

It gives me no pleasure to tear down a lonely old man. This will be my last post on the subject.


Bravo. I think this may be the goldstandard in troll takedowns.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 12:18:07 PM   
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Bravo. I think this may be the goldstandard in troll takedowns.

Dude that ain't gold, it is real thin brass plate and it is turning green.
Would you like to bring your foot, your money and your canary ass to back up your alligator mouth?
H company graduates next week. My lawyer and I will be available on the 7th at 08:00 in building 12.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 12:55:12 PM   
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LMAO!!!

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 4:26:05 PM   
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LMAO!!!

Tickets to the event are free. You can catch the megabus for a dollar from vegas to los angeles and then another dollar to san diego...or if you like you could get off at the riverside metro station and ride with me from riverside to san diego.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 6:13:21 PM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


Bravo. I think this may be the goldstandard in troll takedowns.

Dude that ain't gold, it is real thin brass plate and it is turning green.
Would you like to bring your foot, your money and your canary ass to back up your alligator mouth?
H company graduates next week. My lawyer and I will be available on the 7th at 08:00 in building 12.



Brave on the internet aren't you. Still not willing to post your lawyer's phone number.

For the record thompson, this all came about from your claim that it was doctrine to shoot people in the foot, rather than center of mass.
No amount of posturing by you will obfuscate that. You've had more than 2 years to come up with a cite supporting your claim. You haven't. You can't. Your claim is a lie.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 6:17:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


Bravo. I think this may be the goldstandard in troll takedowns.

Dude that ain't gold, it is real thin brass plate and it is turning green.
Would you like to bring your foot, your money and your canary ass to back up your alligator mouth?
H company graduates next week. My lawyer and I will be available on the 7th at 08:00 in building 12.



Brave on the internet aren't you. Still not willing to post your lawyer's phone number.

Does this mean you will be in buiding 12 mcrd san diego at 08:00 on the 7th of april 2016?

For the record thompson, this all came about from your claim that it was doctrine to shoot people in the foot, rather than center of mass.

That would be another one of your many lies

No amount of posturing by you will obfuscate that. You've had more than 2 years to come up with a cite supporting your claim. You haven't. You can't. Your claim is a lie.


Then perhaps you could cite that post. Otherwise you are the proved liar.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 6:47:09 PM   
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Damn !!! We won't be in CA until a couple of days after that and it really is something I would like to witness................a sort of semi-adult version of 'Truth and Consequences'

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 6:59:21 PM   
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Damn !!! We won't be in CA until a couple of days after that and it really is something I would like to witness................a sort of semi-adult version of 'Truth and Consequences'


Which of the semi-adults do you think has the balls/stupidity to let me shoot at their feet?

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 7:47:34 PM   
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Keep on digging that hole Annie Oakley.

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