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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 7:52:04 PM   
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Actually Thompson, none of them. I am damn sure I wouldn't. I was taught a long time ago which end of a gun was dangerous, no matter who was holding the other end.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 9:41:33 PM   
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Keep on digging that hole Annie Oakley.

Sweetie the date and time has been published. All you need is balls,toes and money.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/2/2016 10:08:55 PM   
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Why would I want to show up to your stupid little fiasco that'll never happen to begin with when we can all watch you right here shooting yourself in the foot ? I hope yer wherein them bullet proof socks.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/3/2016 4:38:53 AM   
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Why would I want to show up to your stupid little fiasco

Because you are convinced that it would cost you toes and treasure.


that'll never happen to begin with when we can all watch you right here shooting yourself in the foot ?

I am too good a shot to aim at my own feet...I like my toes right were they are


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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/4/2016 7:58:23 AM   
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I can make this easy for you sweetie. Base legal is open for walk-ins thursday mornings from 08:00 to 10:00. Graduation is on friday, so we will have all day thursday for your shooting lesson.
Let us know when you would like to play...but please...don't forget the money.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/4/2016 9:35:48 PM   
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Keep on digging that hole Annie Oakley.



Hes just trolling. the dumb ass thinks he can use stock equipment and make that shot with one round! Thats the funniest thing I have heard in a long time.



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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/4/2016 9:37:46 PM   
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Actually Thompson, none of them. I am damn sure I wouldn't. I was taught a long time ago which end of a gun was dangerous, no matter who was holding the other end.


not for the chump change he wants to put up, it would take 30k to make the body armor to insure my safety. He'd have to sweeten the pot by another zero if he wants my attention.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 1:44:02 AM   
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not for the chump change he wants to put up, it would take 30k to make the body armor to insure my safety. He'd have to sweeten the pot by another zero if he wants my attention.

There is nothing in the wager that allows you or your foot to wear body armor. Why would you need body armor since neither you nor he believe it possible to hit the foot of a running man at 10' or 25 yards.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 3:44:54 AM   
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not for the chump change he wants to put up, it would take 30k to make the body armor to insure my safety. He'd have to sweeten the pot by another zero if he wants my attention.

There is nothing in the wager that allows you or your foot to wear body armor. Why would you need body armor since neither you nor he believe it possible to hit the foot of a running man at 10' or 25 yards.



This is priceless, your willing to shoot RO in the foot thus requiring an emergency room visit. So ya think he's going cover for your ass with the authorities when they inquire about his injury or is he going to tell them he made a bet with Wild Man Sharpshooter Buffalo Bill Blowhard ??

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 4:16:16 AM   
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This is priceless, your willing to shoot RO in the foot thus requiring an emergency room visit. So ya think he's going cover for your ass with the authorities when they inquire about his injury or is he going to tell them he made a bet with Wild Man Sharpshooter Buffalo Bill Blowhard ??


Thus the necessity for a visit to my lawyer as a prerequisite...but then neither of you feel that I can do it so why so shy? Is it a lack of money or just a lack of intestinal fortitude?

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 5:25:13 AM   
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This is priceless, your willing to shoot RO in the foot thus requiring an emergency room visit. So ya think he's going cover for your ass with the authorities when they inquire about his injury or is he going to tell them he made a bet with Wild Man Sharpshooter Buffalo Bill Blowhard ??


Thus the necessity for a visit to my lawyer as a prerequisite...but then neither of you feel that I can do it so why so shy? Is it a lack of money or just a lack of intestinal fortitude?


I never said you couldn't do it, you might get lucky for all I know. The conversation and all this talk of lawyers and stuff is a whole lot of stupid crap. The original premise of the conversation is that in a gun fight you shoot at the centrer of mass, at least in most circumstances. There might be times when a head shot is warranted or even another part of the anatomy but not usually. You seem to think, if I recall correctly that because you're so humane and you would rather not kill someone that in the heat of the moment you would rather shoot for the foot or some such foolishness. You're wrong. In the state of Florida, shooting to wound is unlawful. Furthermore, if shooting someone is indeed warranted, why should you care about whether or not the guy happens to die as a result of his injuries.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 8:22:50 AM   
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I never said you couldn't do it, you might get lucky for all I know.

Marksmanship is a matter of skill and not luck.


The conversation and all this talk of lawyers and stuff is a whole lot of stupid crap. The original premise of the conversation is that in a gun fight you shoot at the centrer of mass, at least in most circumstances. There might be times when a head shot is warranted or even another part of the anatomy but not usually. You seem to think, if I recall correctly that because you're so humane and you would rather not kill someone that in the heat of the moment you would rather shoot for the foot or some such foolishness.

That would be your opinion and not mine.


You're wrong. In the state of Florida, shooting to wound is unlawful.

That law applies only to game animals and not to self defense.

https://books.google.com/books?id=lyaxAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA242&lpg=PA242&dq=unlawful+to+shoot+to+wound+in+the+state+of+florida&source=bl&ots=R7-xpqYstQ&sig=X6L806rF_2CFvyRzrEqM_yWuFD8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2uurB4vfLAhWKNSYKHap_AwsQ6AEIJjAD#v=onepage&q=unlawful%20to%20shoot%20to%20wound%20in%20the%20state%20of%20florida&f=false

Furthermore, if shooting someone is indeed warranted, why should you care about whether or not the guy happens to die as a result of his injuries.


Personal ethics.

http://bearingarms.com/shoot-to-wound-vs-shoot-to-stop-vs-shoot-to-kill/

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 8:43:36 AM   
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This is priceless, your willing to shoot RO in the foot thus requiring an emergency room visit. So ya think he's going cover for your ass with the authorities when they inquire about his injury or is he going to tell them he made a bet with Wild Man Sharpshooter Buffalo Bill Blowhard ??


Thus the necessity for a visit to my lawyer as a prerequisite...but then neither of you feel that I can do it so why so shy? Is it a lack of money or just a lack of intestinal fortitude?


I never said you couldn't do it, you might get lucky for all I know. The conversation and all this talk of lawyers and stuff is a whole lot of stupid crap. The original premise of the conversation is that in a gun fight you shoot at the centrer of mass, at least in most circumstances. There might be times when a head shot is warranted or even another part of the anatomy but not usually. You seem to think, if I recall correctly that because you're so humane and you would rather not kill someone that in the heat of the moment you would rather shoot for the foot or some such foolishness. You're wrong. In the state of Florida, shooting to wound is unlawful. Furthermore, if shooting someone is indeed warranted, why should you care about whether or not the guy happens to die as a result of his injuries.

Now that you mention it I think there are several states where shooting to wound is taken a proof that you didn't need to shoot in the first place.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 9:00:10 AM   
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who thinks up that stupid shit but a gubmint extorting money. forcing people to shoot to kill like THEY do!

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 9:02:22 AM   
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I never said you couldn't do it, you might get lucky for all I know.

Marksmanship is a matter of skill and not luck.


The conversation and all this talk of lawyers and stuff is a whole lot of stupid crap. The original premise of the conversation is that in a gun fight you shoot at the centrer of mass, at least in most circumstances. There might be times when a head shot is warranted or even another part of the anatomy but not usually. You seem to think, if I recall correctly that because you're so humane and you would rather not kill someone that in the heat of the moment you would rather shoot for the foot or some such foolishness.

That would be your opinion and not mine.


You're wrong. In the state of Florida, shooting to wound is unlawful.

That law applies only to game animals and not to self defense.

https://books.google.com/books?id=lyaxAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA242&lpg=PA242&dq=unlawful+to+shoot+to+wound+in+the+state+of+florida&source=bl&ots=R7-xpqYstQ&sig=X6L806rF_2CFvyRzrEqM_yWuFD8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2uurB4vfLAhWKNSYKHap_AwsQ6AEIJjAD#v=onepage&q=unlawful%20to%20shoot%20to%20wound%20in%20the%20state%20of%20florida&f=false


Furthermore, if shooting someone is indeed warranted, why should you care about whether or not the guy happens to die as a result of his injuries.


Personal ethics.

http://bearingarms.com/shoot-to-wound-vs-shoot-to-stop-vs-shoot-to-kill/



That's not even a nice try. A link to hunting regulations prove nothing. I live here and I know the law. Yer not even supposed to fire a warning shot. Your second link doesn't prove your point either but it does however contain the logic for law (I'm not saying I entirely agree with all of it).

From your link: Further, if you are foolish enough to state out loud that you only shot to wound, it opens the door to the State arguing that you lacked the good faith subjective fear of imminent death or grave bodily harm necessary to justify your use of deadly force. After all, if you’d feared imminent death, you’d have shot to neutralize the threat decisively, not just make him more angry with a pistol-caliber bullet wound to an extremity. If there was no genuine fear of death or grave bodily harm, your use of deadly force was not lawful self-defense, and off to jail you go.



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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 9:12:00 AM   
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You're wrong. In the state of Florida, shooting to wound is unlawful.


That's not even a nice try. A link to hunting regulations prove nothing.


That is all I could find saying that shooting to wound is illegal in fla.


I live here and I know the law.

Then perhaps you could link us to that law?



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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 9:37:24 AM   
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not for the chump change he wants to put up, it would take 30k to make the body armor to insure my safety. He'd have to sweeten the pot by another zero if he wants my attention.

There is nothing in the wager that allows you or your foot to wear body armor. Why would you need body armor since neither you nor he believe it possible to hit the foot of a running man at 10' or 25 yards.



This is priceless, your willing to shoot RO in the foot thus requiring an emergency room visit. So ya think he's going cover for your ass with the authorities when they inquire about his injury or is he going to tell them he made a bet with Wild Man Sharpshooter Buffalo Bill Blowhard ??



HAHA!

Yep felch is just rootin and tootin blowing his horn. The odds of his actually hitting a big toe are next to none, that is why I require body armor to protect my head and the rest of my body, and I certainly wont do it for chump change of 25k FFS.

He wants to pretend he is bill munden fine, but there are rules in these games.

First he needs to get this bet into 6 digits, adding a '0' will be fine, which I will match.

Second put it all in an irrevocable letter of credit based upon the winner, which I will match.

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Model TX9252 Thus endeth the lesson, you may sit down and learn the material before you speak, Real0ne.
(the only ones gonna get lessoned here are you and felch snottytail)

Third we order a brand new super duper kick ass pooper shootin high standard winchester magnum wit da super duper 10" barrel and the gun shop will hold it in a factory sealed box for us to pick up together. Then pick up a box of ammo, 40gr winchester .22 magnum bowets from which I will randomly choose one round out of the box that he can use for the event and the rest he can use to sight in his super duper pooper shooter.

Forth I get full body armor, with a 1" opening around the big toe since he is likely to hit me in the head or some other part of my body, because, well he smoked one to many buffalo chips.

Fifth he has to shoot before or no later than one footstep past the 25 yard mark, not before 3 steps off the 35 yard mark which will be my starting point.

Until he gets cash, assets, pensions, trusts, I dont really give a shit what form as long as it has value, into a ILC, to ante up, and emails me a copy of the paperwork, I am not doing a damn thing further because he cant make the shot anyway and this is all nothing more than trolling. this is all about felches vivid imagination.



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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 9:39:21 AM   
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I didnt learn a fucking thing from that gobbletygook except that I am able to find a 10" barrel on a .22 by high-standard.

you copped to that. I guess I did learn that you were wrong, as usual.

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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 10:07:42 AM   
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Now that you mention it I think there are several states where shooting to wound is taken a proof that you didn't need to shoot in the first place.


We remain unconvinced that you, in more than 14,000 post, think.
Perhaps instead of hurting your lil puddin' head with thought you were to actually post proof of the mindless drivel you post.


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RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to deat... - 4/5/2016 10:13:38 AM   
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not for the chump change he wants to put up, it would take 30k to make the body armor to insure my safety. He'd have to sweeten the pot by another zero if he wants my attention.

I have not sought your attention. I have noticed that I am pretty visible to someone who "claims" to have me on hide.


HAHA!

Yep felch is just rootin and tootin blowing his horn. The odds of his actually hitting a big toe are next to none, that is why I require body armor to protect my head and the rest of my body, and I certainly wont do it for chump change of 25k FFS.

He wants to pretend he is bill munden fine, but there are rules in these games.

The rules of the challange have been set. You have no say, no balls and no money



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